Even female friendship is deceiving!

[SMADParticipant 651]

Ogre wrote:

You are a good sport @smad, thank you for posting your slightly embarrassing anecdote.

I am looking forward to getting a response from KM actually. I just know its going to be some awesome wisdom that’s going to send several of us into fits of laughter!

Ogre wrote:

Women who are failures try to write articles for other women. At least you can admit your mistake and move on.

There was something I saw years ago – it was a David DeAngelo video – titled “How to be a Man” or “On Being a Man” – I think it was 2007 or something. Basically, he is/was a PUA but something stood out for me very prominently and its stuck with me since:

“Men take RESPONSIBILITY for their actions…Everyone is EXACTLY where they are because of the decisions THEY MAKE.”

So, in this anecdote / story – I foolishly ignored my instinct and thought I was doing something good…I knowingly committed a count of “white knightedness” and as a result, it has cost me some of my money and a little bit of a bruised ego from being deceived.

Hopefully as well, others who read this post might be inspired to share their own stories – not just for the amusing feedback / banter, but also because taking responsibility for f~~~ing up AND sharing it with stout hearted men is actually quite therapeutic 🙂 This is why the MGTOW forums work.

Lurking men – come join in and share!

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Why are you friends with a women? Why are you paying for her emotional support? Why do you give a f~~~? Women are semen depositories only by nature . Stop defying nature!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

Why does this surprise anyone?

The trollop motto has always been, “Fake it, until you make it.”

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

You have sinned greatly. You are helping her to trap and enslave another man.

What the f~~~ is nasty emotional abuse. I bet this is what she tells you. It is a lie, why would you want to meet an abusive person. It is nasty emotional abuse to her because she cannot trap him and cash out, disagreeing with her is abuse.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

There is zero reason to be friends with them. Besides sex, what to they provide?

Fuck this planet.

[Chase PesosParticipant 2136]

Never help them. They got there by themselves and only an extinct unicorn would do the same like a bro would.

Chase a check, never chase a chick...

[SOLI2DEParticipant 746]

Women have no principles, no honor and definitely no logic.

“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

SMAD-

I’m sorry this happened to you. You were betrayed by someone you thought was your friend.

This lady was not and is not your friend. “Friends” don’t accept money and not repay.
You were played.

You have a couple of options. One, you can write the money off and walk away. Two, you can send her a letter requesting repayment. And then if she doesn’t repay, take her to court.

I personally would request repayment, because someone you trusted took advantage of you. She is not your friend.

I have always been of the opinion that it’s the “nice” girls who can really cause trouble.

Get the money, and then either hire a hooker or throw a party.

Never talk to her again.

[Anonymous 6]

SMAD wrote:

Evening all,

So I would like to share with everyone a recent story about how even a friendship with a woman can be disappointing and deceiving. In some parts there will be vague as I don’t want to give away identities etc.

Earlier this year, a female friend of mine was having some difficulty emotionally because a long distance relationship was turning nasty (emotional abuse, etc). Long distance between entirely different continents. So, to help her out, I loaned her some money to pay for the flight so that she could face her partner and resolve things face to face.

After a rocky start (from her arrival) they patch things up which is cool – I am happy for her. I feel glad I was able to help someone out. But, here’s the thing. On Facebook, it would seem that for some time now, some friends and myself have been partially “blocked” – in that we haven’t been unfriended but posts aren’t visible to us. My friends involved knew about the situation, etc and they were told by their friends / partners that new things were appearing on this womans profile.

So, after lending her money for a flight (yes I have proof, screenshots of facebook conversation AND of the bank transfer with account numbers / names / time and date stamp) it would seem I (and my friends who knew the situation) have been semi blocked.

So yes, trying to help out a friend who, for the first half of her trip over was having a tough time resolving things, etc, barely replies for the last half and now this. Thank you very much.

Even HELPING a supposed FRIEND is now quite s~~~ – played the victim and I wanted to help as I thought there was genuine friendship.

Oh well, hopefully this lesson will resonate with some members here next time they think about helping out.

Hey OP thank you for sharing. What you’ve described is so absurd to me, I can’t imagine ever doing this, ever. I’m curious as to what was going on in your mind. Like what was your thought process? Were you banging this chick? She was flying in an airplane to see ANOTHER MAN. My creed has always been this: the only women who are even eligible to get money from me, or to even begin to be able to tell me what to do are my wife (I don’t have one and never will), my mother (She’s my blood), my daughter (Same as mom but I don’t have one of these either and never will), my sister (Don’t have one and never will), and my mistress (I might have one of these, but she won’t get much from me).

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

There is no principle, forget your money and forget the woman and forget trying to be friends with women.

And the next time you give ANYONE money, remember that it is a gift. You have no right to say how it’s spent, to know what the person does with it, to have any further contact with the person or anything. Unless you’re making an investment and getting equity where they have a legal responsibility to keep you appraised of the disposition of your capital, forget it.

So basically you f~~~ed up by giving a woman money and you f~~~ed up again by thinking you had a right to information and continued contact and you f~~~ed up a third time by assuming there is some sort of principle that women are supposed to live by.

Consider this a very inexpensive lesson in the reality of women and money and let it go.

[BeeParticipant 700]

It only cost you a few hundred to find out she was not a true friend. Cheer up, it cost me $300 a month or about $17,000 to find out my wife hates my guts.

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

This is why I don’t have female friends. I kinda had one a while back but we never spoke, I always initiated contact if we ever did. Didn’t last long, just stopped caring. I’m glad I never had to help her out in any way, financially or otherwise. I(as well as 2 of my friends, and likely others) got “rinsed” one way or another by this one dude, and well, he’s out of my life now. Doubt any of us will hear from him again.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[bagsofsandParticipant 1391]

I’m not sure I understand the story fully..

She just ignores you now? Did you guys ever talk about WHEN she should pay you back?

Either way, I’d definitely try to get my money back. She’s NOT going to scam ME without consequences, I go full mental jacket over scammers/liars/cheaters/human scum.

If you just ignore this, you can be sure she will have forgotten 100% about the money in HER future….

I can understand you don’t want to make a fight over this, – after all it’s only a couple 100’s, – apparently, but, well, for me, it’s also about telling her she can’t get away with taking advantage of a helpful “friend”. Especially women think there’s no or little consequence from their half thought through actions.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Women are a nuisance. Friend or otherwise. Esp as a MGTOW. Because even female friends will try to pressure you to get into a relationship, they’ll try to hook you up with their friends, etc.. That’s why I deleted the phone number of every female who isn’t either a) my mother or b) a family relative. There isn’t one single female number in my phone outside of that category. And frankly, they don’t call, so why should I have their number anyways? See ya.

[JakeParticipant 908]

She is a woman not a man does not know about honour honesty integrity we take these things for granted don’t be a sucker

[SMADParticipant 651]

Gnostic wrote:

You have sinned greatly. You are helping her to trap and enslave another man.

Haha, to be honest, this other guy is a piece of work and is up there on the “Chad” scale of things – I firmly believe he has been with other women over the years whilst in a relationship so…Maybe he has HER trapped and enslaved if anything. Good luck to them 😛 No f~~~s given 🙂

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

have always been of the opinion that it’s the “nice” girls who can really cause trouble.

There is an interesting point here – at least with the loud / mouthy ones you get a more of a warning. Sly and devious though…

Anonymous wrote:

Hey OP thank you for sharing. What you’ve described is so absurd to me, I can’t imagine ever doing this, ever. I’m curious as to what was going on in your mind. Like what was your thought process? Were you banging this chick? She was flying in an airplane to see ANOTHER MAN.

Well, my intention on a BASE level was to help another human being – she was in a right old state many times!

Stargazer wrote:

And the next time you give ANYONE money, remember that it is a gift. You have no right to say how it’s spent, to know what the person does with it, to have any further contact with the person or anything. Unless you’re making an investment and getting equity where they have a legal responsibility to keep you appraised of the disposition of your capital, forget it.

So basically you f~~~ed up by giving a woman money and you f~~~ed up again by thinking you had a right to information and continued contact and you f~~~ed up a third time by assuming there is some sort of principle that women are supposed to live by.

Bee wrote:

It only cost you a few hundred to find out she was not a true friend.

bagsofsand wrote:

She just ignores you now? Did you guys ever talk about WHEN she should pay you back?

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[BeeParticipant 700]

To be fair, this has little to do with gender. Both men and women will flake on a personal debt. You have no leverage and you’re low priority.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

SMAD wrote:

Haha, to be honest, this other guy is a piece of work and is up there on the “Chad” scale of things – I firmly believe he has been with other women over the years whilst in a relationship so…Maybe he has HER trapped and enslaved if anything. Good luck to them No f~~~s given

Respectfully the other guy is unlikely to be chad.

You think he is chad most likely because you get your information about the guy from the woman. Women are prone to lie to victimize themselves.

Ignore what she says and focus on what she’s done.
She is in a long distance relationship. She cannot go visit the guy without a few hundreds bucks, and even need to borrow from you. So it is unlikely that the guy is getting sex from her. If he comes to f~~~ her, he have to pay a few hundreds for the air ticket, and lodging. It is less costly and time consuming to pay a whore. It is certainly don’t sound chad like to me.

What do you call a man who don’t get sex but still in a long distance relationship catering to her need for drama? An emotional tampon, simp, but surely not a chad.

She lies, she lies. And you know her true character on how she treats you. I think it is more likely the guy she bad mouthed is just a normal guy, a blue pill one, like a lot of gentlemen here are once. And most of them are demonized by the women they loved with lies and lies.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[AttonParticipant]

Lending money in general is bad, lending it to a woman is like a subprime mortgage.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t quite see how you were even being a good friend to her to be honest. As other pointed out, if you lend money to someone without collateral or some sort of payment plan, then it is a gift and not a loan. She has done nothing to deserve such a gift. You encouraged and enabled this woman to continue this relationship that is obviously not sustainable. She is not better off from your friendship in the case.

To add to that, you willingly played the role of the guy in her orbit, her friendzone, the guy that cares about her more than BF. No doubt she used that on this guy to manipulate him. Never be that guy.

You also enforced her view that men are supposed to take care of her and not hold her to any responsibility.

And the Facebook thing is ridiculous. Why are you even on there? You will never have to be concerned about unfriending, blocking, and all that crap if you are not in that game.

I know you’re learning from this, but next time, think about these things. Would you do this for a guy friend? Would you had a GF (God forbid), what her reaction be to your behavior? I mention the GF scenario, because they would be quick to point out another woman’s manipulation game on you.

Ok. Then do it.

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