Don't know what to do.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

I’ll tell it like it is Sparky, all you ever post on here is your problems.

I have never seen you post a single post about anything else.

Everyone on here has or still has s~~~ to deal with and people try to give advice/help if they can.

Stop wallowing in it.

I smoked 20 B&H a day since I was 12 and gave up cold turkey-will power alone without help without moaning because I have a pair of b~~~~.

As we say in England you are getting on my sweaty t~~~ you whine like a little girl.

I would love to drink myself stupid everyday but I don’t because I know it won’t improve my situation just make it worse.

Follow the advice you have been given.

That is what Doc is telling you in a roundabout sort of a way.

Go dam you man my grandfather walked form Collyhurst to London to find work twice.

Look at the s~~~ May has been through you don’t see every single post from him being whining about his unfair hand in life-he gets on with it because he is a fcuking man and tough.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Aussie wrote:

Surely you can get away with a sly vape somewhere while nobody is watching? Become a master of stealth and find the best hiding spots.

You are correct and I have learned them. Yet I feel like a teen “Smoking in the boys room” though I am vaping and it is harmless. https://youtu.be/5K59EMGgrUA

[AstroParticipant 2045]

It’sallbs wrote:

I’ll tell it like it is Sparky, all you ever post on here is your problems.

Well God forbid if I ever post my problems again. I have learned.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Anonymous wrote:

Sparky, this is the last time I will talk to you. I am ignoring your threads and posts from now on. We have given you everything you need to get out of the hole you are in. It is up to you to do these things, or go your own way. Respectfully, your own way has been a dismal failure. Continuing on your path has led you nowhere. Please reconsider the things we have suggested.
Good bye, brother and good luck. I wish you well. Go with God.

Then by all means, do not talk to me again if I cause you discomfort. I am doing better but I am not obligated to show proof. If you wish to think the worst of all I have said, who am I to stop you? Judge as you wish if judgment is what this forum is about. As for me, I am a MGHOW.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

IRuleMe wrote:

“I’m MGTOW” is becoming an excuse for men to live destructive lives, and an excuse for men to exhibit destructive behavior. If that’s the case, do everyone a favor, sign off and don’t come back. We don’t need people fishing for attention and rolling around in their own s~~~, with blatant refusal to follow the advice of their peers. “I’m MGTOW, I do what I want!” Yeah, we get it. But go do it somewhere else. The rest of us are tired of wasting our time – valuable time on this constant whinefest.

Got your message. I got on zoom on my days off when I could kick back. As a CDL driver, I could NEVER do that every day! Now I hope you can see my perspective:

Less than a year and a half a year ago, I sworn off women. Nearly two months ago, you said I should swear off beer. Last month, my job demanded me to swear off vaping and a 37 year nicotine addiction. I became a MGTOW Monk, not a Tibetan Monk. It’s far too much, far too fast and I have rebelled! If MGTOW requires instant sainthood, I just cant do it. Time for me to go before I am ousted. This is included in a follow-up post. It is too much, too soon if ever.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Doc wrote:

Seriously Sparky – unless you snap out of this and change your outlook on you problems and how you solve them you are going to spiral downwards.
You need to act.

Starting to act, I found a way. The real change depends on the student body but I do not depend on them. I went seven years without a drink but I have been a nicotine addict since 1982, when I got off ritalin. It helps me focus as does caffeine. Want a problem? Include caffeine on the drug test for professional drivers and see society go to hell. We all use drugs, even in the foods a doctor will tell you is healthy.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MarketWatcher wrote:

I was in a similar situation with work and smoking. And you know how much I smoke! So, I got a cheap vape pen called Vuse. They do not produce the big cloud that the fancy vaps do. So I could go to the bathroom and sneak a few puffs because it did not smell. Good luck brother.

I use a mod and tank. I have far more flavors and have learned to vape with no cloud. I think I can pass. Still, I wish the student body would speak out half as much as they do over nonsense. If they did a real protest that hit the university in the wallet, the university would cave in overnight. Prohibition never stopped anything.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

As a bus driver you have a CDL. I know long haul is far from ideal, but you have years of exp and will not be starting out at the bottom. A bit more freedom and perhaps more pay.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[AstroParticipant 2045]

743 roadmaster wrote:

As a bus driver you have a CDL. I know long haul is far from ideal, but you have years of exp and will not be starting out at the bottom. A bit more freedom and perhaps more pay.

You may be right. As for now, I learned how to buck the system. I went underground as a teen and can do far better today at it. I grew up and thought about it. One is only as free as one allows himself to be in the end. I cannot beat the system but I can work around it.

[MACHOParticipant]

Life Sucks most of the time Sparky! So many on here have been giving you great free advice! to be blunt man (I’m assuming that you are one) Your threads stick out like a sore thumb! They have been the most whiny that I can recall over the last year! If you continue on I suggest that you use a more appropriate avatar… here’s a good example… it would be better than the cute dog that you’re using. No hard feelings man.. get a hold of yourself!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[AstroParticipant 2045]

MACHO wrote:

Life Sucks most of the time Sparky! So many on here have been giving you great free advice! to be blunt man (I’m assuming that you are one) Your threads stick out like a sore thumb! They have been the most whiny that I can recall over the last year! If you continue on I suggest that you use a more appropriate avatar… here’s a good example… it would be better than the cute dog that you’re using. No hard feelings man.. get a hold of yourself!

And how should I respond to that? I could tell you to f–k yourself and that makes me the bad guy. I am not going to play that game. My time for whining ended but you do not see it. It is no longer I that is holding to the past, is it?

[MACHOParticipant]

I believe in tough love Sparky! I’ve been through hell back and forth several times in my life! I definitely should be dead! and I’ve learned that whining doesn’t make me stronger… and it sure won’t make you stronger in the long run! your threads would belong better in some kind of psychologists forums than on here! I’m happy that you’re making progress though man.
The underlying tone of your threads sound so f~~~i*g tuna by the way! Sorry to be so blunt but often the cure is more painful than the disease!

Good luck man.

Astro wrote:

And how should I respond to that? I could tell you to f–k yourself and that makes me the bad guy. I am not going to play that game. My time for whining ended but you do not see it. It is no longer I that is holding to the past, is it?

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[AstroParticipant 2045]

If you think I am a Tuna, try some of my fish and see what happens. You challenged my manhood but I suppose you will judge my response. Is that not how this works? MGTOW never forgives or forgets and I suppose I am not perfect enough to call myself a MGTOW. I stopped whining but I suppose any problem stated is whining. I guess I should be in a world of rainbows and unicorns but that is not the world I live in. My world is tough and will kick ones ass. I came here because I needed help, not judgement. If you think I am a tuna, we should meet face to face. I am not challenging you to fight but to show you I have a dick because it seems many don’t believe it till they see it. I am not gay but don’t want pussy as a went monk as my father did. Anything else you want to know? If so, we should meet and we will probably find ourselves friends when it is over.

[MACHOParticipant]

You’re a man with a quadrillion issues that behaves like a tuna.. grow F~~~*ng up man! you’re not the only one suffering on earth! We all suffer! it’s how we address that suffering that makes us what we become. Get a hold of yourself.. grow some b~~~~.. quit whining… go see a shrink.. 2 if you need it! no need to send pick of your dick. I know you’re a man that behaves like a tuna!

Astro wrote:

If you think I am a tuna, we should meet face to face. I am not

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[HermitParticipant]

It’sallbs wrote:

I smoked 20 B&H a day since I was 12 and gave up cold turkey-will power alone without help without moaning because I have a pair of b~~~~.

I smoked about two packs a day and got tired of being a slave to cigarettes. Every time I had a drink, I’d want a smoke. So, I quit drinking and smoking both at the same time. Haven’t had a cigarette since July of 2000.

Went back to drinking some and every now and then I’ll puff on a nice cigar, but never inhale and I’ve zero cravings for cigarettes.

One time I was at a party and ran out of cigars so someone offered me a cigarette. I decided to puff on it like a cigar, but it was just too damn nasty. Good cigars taste and smell much better.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Astro wrote:

IRuleMe wrote:

“I’m MGTOW” is becoming an excuse for men to live destructive lives, and an excuse for men to exhibit destructive behavior. If that’s the case, do everyone a favor, sign off and don’t come back. We don’t need people fishing for attention and rolling around in their own s~~~, with blatant refusal to follow the advice of their peers. “I’m MGTOW, I do what I want!” Yeah, we get it. But go do it somewhere else. The rest of us are tired of wasting our time – valuable time on this constant whinefest.

Got your message. I got on zoom on my days off when I could kick back. As a CDL driver, I could NEVER do that every day! Now I hope you can see my perspective:

Less than a year and a half a year ago, I sworn off women. Nearly two months ago, you said I should swear off beer. Last month, my job demanded me to swear off vaping and a 37 year nicotine addiction. I became a MGTOW Monk, not a Tibetan Monk. It’s far too much, far too fast and I have rebelled! If MGTOW requires instant sainthood, I just cant do it. Time for me to go before I am ousted. This is included in a follow-up post. It is too much, too soon if ever.

It wasn’t just me. It was Travis and several others as well. Because you’re a f~~~ing drunkard, and alcohol runs your life. Not the other way around. Anyone with any sense knows how that’s going to end. And when you take to drinking, you don’t know how to behave. We told you to quit for your own well being. You passed the f~~~ out on zoom, and fell out of your chair after you’d been drinking. Obvious sign of a problem. But your stubbornness to see your own self destruction and do something positive about it is by your own making. You can claim it’s “because I’m MGTOW”, but that’s a load of horse s~~~.

Just like you coming on zoom and telling me and May you were leaving the site only to come back here and routinely post your drama is also horse s~~~. Just like claiming your account was hacked, a month after you posted a bunch of derogatory comments and got called out on it is also horse s~~~.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

Hermit wrote:

Ismoked about two packs a day and got tired of being a slave to cigarettes. Every time I had a drink, I’d want a smoke. So, I quit drinking and smoking both at the same time. Haven’t had a cigarette since July of 2000.

Do you think vaping is the same as smoking? Sorry brother but you are wrong.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

IRuleMe wrote:

It wasn’t just me. It was Travis and several others as well. Because you’re a f~~~ing drunkard, and alcohol runs your life. Not the other way around. Anyone with any sense knows how that’s going to end. And when you take to drinking, you don’t know how to behave. We told you to quit for your own well being. You passed the f~~~ out on zoom, and fell out of your chair after you’d been drinking. Obvious sign of a problem. But your stubbornness to see your own self destruction and do something positive about it is by your own making. You can claim it’s “because I’m MGTOW”, but that’s a load of horse s~~~.

No problem at all. Don’t you know I am already gone? I have no wish to offend the saints of MGTOW. Should I return to zoom, I will be sober and still be judged. I am ADHD and seem drunk while sober, no beer required. I cannot stop who I am anymore than you can. Please show me when I passed out on zoom, I wish to see it. If you can’t, I call bulls~~~. You accused me and if you cannot back it up, you are a liar. A liar is worse than a drunk because he has no excuse. This is a personal challenge. I accept this challenge.

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