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I have been less active on the forums this month as I need time away. Yet I need others to bounce off of when I face a problem, so here I am:
My job is changing because the University is changing. I thought I did well giving up the cancer sticks after 33 years but now, they are also banning vaping anywhere on campus. After 37 years on nicotine, I know I cannot stop nor even wish to. Nicotine and caffeine help me to control my ADHD without depending on prescription drugs that could put me on a list. I am going to try to apply E-juice on my finger and put it on my tounge at work. It is not recommended as it can cause skin irritations and increase my nicotine intake. If it doesn’t work, I will have no choice but to quit my job. Other drivers face the same problem and we can’t find enough drivers as it is. Unless the student body takes a stand, it will be time to move on. It will be sad to let my job go as the money I put long hours for fixed my roof and earned me a small account.
Modern progressivism is almost the same as socialism and the right to liberty and pursuit of happiness is going the way of the dinosaur. These are NOT true Liberals and I should know, they are the opposite! Thomas Jefferson would scream for revolution if he seen what we have become. No true liberal would tolerate the crap we have today. No true liberal would put up with how powerful control has become over our personal lives. We used to think our job meant doing the task required but now, we must also step in line to the meat grinder of political correctness. My thoughts of suicide are over but can anyone blame me if I no longer seek longevity? I HATE this fu–ing world! America is going down the crapper of history with s~~~ being forced down our throats. I just want to do my job and be left alone to my home, my dachshund and my way of life. I reject ANY person or institution that will not allow me to do that, even MGTOW! I have negotiated enough and must be who I am be it virtue or vice.
I fixed my roof and have a home till the day I die, that was my first step in recovery. During spring break, I hope to do much more including fixing/replacing my car and divorcing my wife. I will most likely need another job but I need weekends off so I can return to astronomy and my spirituality as well as be with my little buddy that saved my life. That is a tall order for an inexperienced CDL driver who is rusty. If I hit the road after training, I demand Oscar, Gaston Glock and my vape. I demand freedom!
You probably don’t have ADHD, you just probably a yonki.
Tame your brain and snap out of it.
You can’t do it?
Why?To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.
You probably don’t have ADHD, you just probably a yonki.
I wish you were correct. I was diagnosed “Hyperactive and Dyslexic” in 1971 when I was seven years old, before the term “ADHD” was known. Others call me retarded but people like Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton and Thomas Edison have the same diagnosis, just a bunch of fu–ing retards. Back then, I needed medication and had to fight to get it. Today, kids get it whether they need it or not and just being a boy puts one on Ritalin. We have gone from one extreme to another but that does not make me a yonki. Yeah, I did some things when I was young but what kid didn’t in the 70’s and 80’s? Most with true ADHD smoke or vape for a reason. Today, I use caffeine and nicotine instead of prescription drugs. I am a veteran and do not want to be put on a list which might demand my guns confiscated. Therefore, I do what I can to protect the liberty I took an oath to defend for myself as well as yours. If I lose my rights, you will soon lose yours and you can take it to the bank.
Anonymous43Quit the job. We told you that 2 months ago. Look here is a job website http://www.indeed.com 7,461 jobs in your area! https://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=&l=Knoxville%2C+TN I remember telling you about a good job that you could easily pick up. If you applied to the job I had mentioned, they would have sent you an email and called you back within 2 days. You could be working there in a week.
Dump the car. Scrap that pos. Look here is a website full of cars. it is called http://www.cars.com 10 year old Honda Accords are about $4,000. Finance that for 3 years, about $180 a month. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/727323881/overview/
Great, you fixed the roof. We told you to deal with that months ago.
Your wife’s possessions, we told you to jettison her s~~~ months ago. There are companies who will throw away junk. look here is a website… https://request.1800gotjunk.com/
wanna get off nicotine? oh look, here’s a program… http://www.smokefreeknoxville.com/ your tax dollars pay for it, use it.
Wanna get off alcohol? oh look here’s another program… http://www.etiaa.org/ AA worked for me, now 31 years clean and sober.
Oh divorce attorney…hmmm would they be on the internet? crazy amiright? Pro Bono = for free. https://www.justia.com/lawyers/family-law/tennessee/knoxville/legal-aid-and-pro-bono-services
You like astronomy? great, heres a group: http://www.knoxobservers.org/
Come on man… finding this took me about 3 minutes. I typed in your problems and your hometown into Google. Not that hard. Stop moping around and get this s~~~ done. Come back when you have completed these things. I bet you a shiny nickel all of these things can be accomplished in 90 days.
Claiming ADHD is so lame. Get over it. We all have problems. Suck it up and drive the f~~~ on! English is a second language to me, and yet I earned 2 AA, 1 Bachelors, and a teaching certificate, and Network admin training. I taught English language arts, math, science, social studies. I learned 5 f~~~ing languages. I was homeless twice. Come on Mr. Veteran, IMPROVISE, ADAPT AND OVERCOME! S~~~, I never served, but I learned that in a movie about going through boot camp. That one little nugget of wisdom is what gets me moving when s~~~ gets hard. S~~~ is hard every day. Moping around drinking and smoking, sighing about all these problems makes for a long hard day.
I don’t know if you noticed, but 99.99999999% of the men here are very ambitious. All of us get up, s~~~ shower and shave and go out into the world and do what we need to do to move forward. What have you done today to resolve any of the things you bitch about? I found all the answers for you. Just click on the blue words. This is not the first time I have found all the answers for you, I think this is the third go around.
We, and I mean all 31,000 members, lurkers, feminist antagonizers, puppets and leftie lunatics are done. We can’t take it any more. What do you bring to us? We provide you with advice, and in this case all the links to fix your s~~~. When do we get a pay off? Lots of people help me with stuff, and I thank them and keep them appraised of my progress.
90 days. Come back in 90 days with everything resolved.
Is there a gym you can access, fitness classes, pool to swim in, tracks to run or ride?
Give up the smoking, build a better body. Physical fitness is a natural high, and keeps your mind focused on mini goals.
I quit smoking when I had to work a very physicaly demanding job, it was holding me back. 15 years on I can’t believe I was hooked on that, although my old man was a bad influence and I guess I looked up to him in alot of his ways.
"Society is to blame" Denton
Sparky, I care about you brother…As you gave me a bitter pill to swallow awhile back while I was down I am here to return the favor…
STOP MAKING EXCUSES!…Slap yourself from me and move your ass…You are not trying to win back your ex…You are doing this for you, so be kind to yourself and move towards a solution…Listen, move and stop making excuses…
Take a step one day at a time, but continue taking steps…Shove your excuses up yours because it aint worth s~~~…Move, move, and move…
I dont care if you are crying while lifting weights…But lift those damn weights…
We can only show you the solution but its you who has to move…Because you are a MAN…
I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...
Anonymous43Sparky, one last thought.
There are social workers, people who work in some government office who would love to help you through your stuff. They will hold your hand, get you a styrofoam cup of coffee and listen to you all day. I bet you qualify for at least 46 government programs. The social worker will fill out the papers for you. Social worker will have such a hard on for fixing your s~~~, the desk will look like it is levitating. If you don’t like our ideas, go see a social worker. The do it yourself approach is a no go with you. I get that now.
Anonymous42What’s up couzz?
You like astronomy? great, heres a group: http://www.knoxobservers.org/%5B/quote%5D
Who do you think is the founder of the Knoxville Observers? That is right, I am. We left SMAS to form KO because they became to political. Do you want to tell me more of astronomy? Thank you for telling me about my own club. Roger Lane now runs it. I am the founder of the AL Master Observers. Who are you?
Give up the smoking, build a better body. Physical fitness is a natural high, and keeps your mind focused on mini goals.
I quit smoking when I had to work a very physicaly demanding job, it was holding me back. 15 years on I can’t believe I was hooked on that, although my old man was a bad influence and I guess I looked up to him in alot of his ways.I am not a smoker, I gave it up four years ago. I vape and that is not the same.
STOP MAKING EXCUSES!…Slap yourself from me and move your ass…You are not trying to win back your ex…You are doing this for you, so be kind to yourself and move towards a solution…Listen, move and stop making excuses…
Nerd, you are my friend but you do not understand. I have a disability I was born with. I wish I could recover but cannot. No one understands and I grow tired of trying. I could draw a government check but try not to. Perhaps I should give up and draw the check because no one understands.
There are social workers, people who work in some government office who would love to help you through your stuff. They will hold your hand, get you a styrofoam cup of coffee and listen to you all day. I bet you qualify for at least 46 government programs. The social worker will fill out the papers for you. Social worker will have such a hard on for fixing your s~~~, the desk will look like it is levitating. If you don’t like our ideas, go see a social worker. The do it yourself approach is a no go with you. I get that now.
Perhaps you are correct, perhaps I should go back. Yet I do not wish to be included on a list. I did not swear to my oath to be excluded from it. What do you have to say with that?
There are social workers, people who work in some government office who would love to help you through your stuff. They will hold your hand, get you a styrofoam cup of coffee and listen to you all day. I bet you qualify for at least 46 government programs. The social worker will fill out the papers for you. Social worker will have such a hard on for fixing your s~~~, the desk will look like it is levitating. If you don’t like our ideas, go see a social worker. The do it yourself approach is a no go with you. I get that now.
Perhaps you are correct, perhaps I should go back. Yet I do not wish to be included on a list. I did not swear to my oath to be excluded from it. What do you have to say with that?
Sparky, go get help from professionals. We’re not your life coach. This wishy-washy bulls~~~ has gotten old. Stop making excuses. Your lack of ability to focus is not a disability. Being born without hearing in one ear and needing a tube in your skull because your body doesn’t have the developed holes to drain fluid from your skull IS a disability.
May laid all the information at your fingertips. If you’re not going to do anything about it, then I don’t know what else to tell you. Everyone, myself included has given hours of our valuable time in trying to help you to see you play this DYD level s~~~.
If you cared enough about what you do, and your precious job, you’d ween yourself off the nicotine and put away the vaping s~~~. You CHOOSE to work there. Which means, you play by their rules. Don’t like it? Work somewhere else! So stop moaning about it. My father quit smoking. He doesn’t need that vaping s~~~. Jan quit smoking. He doesn’t need vaping s~~~. Vaping is a crutch for people who lack the fortitude to f~~~ing do the work of actually quitting smoking.
If you cared enough about what you do, and your precious job, you’d ween yourself off the nicotine and put away the vaping s~~~. You CHOOSE to work there. Which means, you play by their rules. Don’t like it? Work somewhere else! So stop moaning about it. My father quit smoking. He doesn’t need that vaping s~~~. Jan quit smoking. He doesn’t need vaping s~~~. Vaping is a crutch for people who lack the fortitude to f~~~ing do the work of actually quitting smoking.
Tired of trying. The rules changed recently but if you agree with them, so be it. I will quit my job if I cannot take it. By the way: I will live my life as I wish. I became a MGTOW monk, not a Tibetan monk. “Don’t f~~~, don’t drink, don’t vape” is too much for me to take at one time. I will do as I please and damn me for it. I was looking for a job when I found THIS one! I reject any job that tells me how to live beyond my profession. Furthermore, I reject MGTOW if MGTOW tells me how to live as that is a contradiction. I have already started to go MGHOW. Sorry to go but not if I am rejected.
Surely you can get away with a sly vape somewhere while nobody is watching? Become a master of stealth and find the best hiding spots.
" I feel threatened "
Try a nicotine patch thru the day.
Chew gum to keep the mouth busy.
Buy a fidget spinner to keep the hands busy.I still smoke and vape, but not as much as I used to.
Its just a distraction for the mind.
Find another “hobby” to do while bored instead of lifting the vape box.Hope this will help a little bit.
Don't chase tail. Turn yours around, walk away, and live free!
Anonymous43yes Sparky, I know that was the group you founded. I was reminding you of something good that you started, something that would welcome you back with open arms. I am trying to get you angry enough to get up off your ass and do something. Overcome the fear of failure, and go live. I am very happy that you read my post. It shows me that there is some atom of ambition somewhere inside of you.
The whole point of MGTOW is go your own way. How are you MGTOW if some random guy posts internet links of the solutions to all your problems in 4 minutes at midnight on a Friday night? All of the links are legit, the solutions have been tried and been proven to work. This has to be the 10th conversation we have had along these lines on this forum and face to face on Zoom. I do not think you are MGTOW. You have no sovereignty, no control over your life. No direction. You are owned by the s~~~ swirling around you. You are owned by alcohol. You are owned by nicotine. You are owned by your job. You are owned by your wife. You are owned by your broken car. You are owned by your own boredom. You are owned by the fear of your own success.
MGTOW men find their own solutions and get after them quickly and efficiently. If that plan does not work, MGTOW men stop what does not work, back up and try something else. MGTOW men do not make excuses for why something can not be done, MGTOW men find ways to get past obstacles.
You said this was going to be the year you come roaring back. We are now 103 days into the new year. Your roar is a wet fart. 262 days left in the year. Use them well.
If you are here to learn from more ambitious men, to somehow gain self control by osmosis, you will be disappointed. Ambitious men have a unique internal drive. That which moves me is different than an other man. A couple drops of what motivates me would kill most ordinary men.
You could fix all of the problems in 90 days.
Enroll in AA on Monday. Sign up for smoking cessation on Monday. Go buy that car on Monday. Call your friends with the telescopes on Monday. Call the Pro Bono Free lawyer on Monday get an appointment for Wednesday. Apply for those jobs on Monday. I used Indeed to look for jobs, I had people calling me that afternoon. S~~~ man, you could have these things done before lunch! Save the junk guys for after lunch, that could get a little intense, they may actually show up same day you call them. We told you to do all of that back in January. We told you to do these things back in November of 2017.
Sparky, this is the last time I will talk to you. I am ignoring your threads and posts from now on. We have given you everything you need to get out of the hole you are in. It is up to you to do these things, or go your own way. Respectfully, your own way has been a dismal failure. Continuing on your path has led you nowhere. Please reconsider the things we have suggested.
Good bye, brother and good luck. I wish you well. Go with God.
yes Sparky, I know that was the group you founded. I was reminding you of something good that you started, something that would welcome you back with open arms. I am trying to get you angry enough to get up off your ass and do something. Overcome the fear of failure, and go live. I am very happy that you read my post. It shows me that there is some atom of ambition somewhere inside of you.
The whole point of MGTOW is go your own way. How are you MGTOW if some random guy posts internet links of the solutions to all your problems in 4 minutes at midnight on a Friday night? All of the links are legit, the solutions have been tried and been proven to work. This has to be the 10th conversation we have had along these lines on this forum and face to face on Zoom. I do not think you are MGTOW. You have no sovereignty, no control over your life. No direction. You are owned by the s~~~ swirling around you. You are owned by alcohol. You are owned by nicotine. You are owned by your job. You are owned by your wife. You are owned by your broken car. You are owned by your own boredom. You are owned by the fear of your own success.
MGTOW men find their own solutions and get after them quickly and efficiently. If that plan does not work, MGTOW men stop what does not work, back up and try something else. MGTOW men do not make excuses for why something can not be done, MGTOW men find ways to get past obstacles.
You said this was going to be the year you come roaring back. We are now 103 days into the new year. Your roar is a wet fart. 262 days left in the year. Use them well.
If you are here to learn from more ambitious men, to somehow gain self control by osmosis, you will be disappointed. Ambitious men have a unique internal drive. That which moves me is different than an other man. A couple drops of what motivates me would kill most ordinary men.
You could fix all of the problems in 90 days.
Enroll in AA on Monday. Sign up for smoking cessation on Monday. Go buy that car on Monday. Call your friends with the telescopes on Monday. Call the Pro Bono Free lawyer on Monday get an appointment for Wednesday. Apply for those jobs on Monday. I used Indeed to look for jobs, I had people calling me that afternoon. S~~~ man, you could have these things done before lunch! Save the junk guys for after lunch, that could get a little intense, they may actually show up same day you call them. We told you to do all of that back in January. We told you to do these things back in November of 2017.
Sparky, this is the last time I will talk to you. I am ignoring your threads and posts from now on. We have given you everything you need to get out of the hole you are in. It is up to you to do these things, or go your own way. Respectfully, your own way has been a dismal failure. Continuing on your path has led you nowhere. Please reconsider the things we have suggested.
Good bye, brother and good luck. I wish you well. Go with God.
Sparky is stubborn like a f~~~ing mule. It’s pathetic! Pathetic that a guy nearing retirement has to be told by a man young enough to be his son, to get his s~~~ together. “I’m MGTOW” is becoming an excuse for men to live destructive lives, and an excuse for men to exhibit destructive behavior. If that’s the case, do everyone a favor, sign off and don’t come back. We don’t need people fishing for attention and rolling around in their own s~~~, with blatant refusal to follow the advice of their peers. “I’m MGTOW, I do what I want!” Yeah, we get it. But go do it somewhere else. The rest of us are tired of wasting our time – valuable time on this constant whinefest.
I was in a similar situation with work and smoking. And you know how much I smoke! So, I got a cheap vape pen called Vuse. They do not produce the big cloud that the fancy vaps do. So I could go to the bathroom and sneak a few puffs because it did not smell. Good luck brother.
Sparky –
When people solve problems or try there are mainly two types of people.
One type see the things that stand in their way to solving their problems as hurdles that need to be climbed over.
The next type see those same things as barriers that block their path and cannot be climbed. Thereby preventing them from solving their problems.
I have seen countless people in my line of work who are one type or another.
From what you write I can see that you see barriers. You have a heightened awareness of them. As a result I think you will struggle to solve your problems because you dont focus on the solution but on the barriers.
Because of that I strongly suggest you take Mays advice and seek professional help.
Basically sparky there is not a vast amount wrong with you but the way you think magnifies your problems out of all proportion.
Go get help – as May said – let us know what you have DONE instead of what you say you intend to do.
In my experience actions speak far far louder than words ever do.
Seriously Sparky – unless you snap out of this and change your outlook on you problems and how you solve them you are going to spiral downwards.
You need to act.
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
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