Do you think you would become MGTOW without past experience with women

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Beer wrote:

a bunch of f~~~ed up dates, a few s~~~ty girlfriends, and meeting many guys over the years who got robbed blind in divorce court

This is where you know MGTOW is going to explode because even the average Joe whose dated a little, is running. Just average guys like us who can see a problem and eventually figure it out. And many men will go their own way without knowing it.

The female pool is so poisoned at this point. The whole charade of having a relationship with a woman is fading faster than before.

[MorpheusParticipant 2177]

My first shock was, this girl asks me for a date. I agreed. But then she expected me to entertain her. It wasn’t a dinner date or else she would have wanted me to pay too. In my mind, “You asked me to a date. Shouldn’t you entertain me. Or show you are worthy.” Never went on a date with that girl again. After a few more s~~~ty dates( I hate that word), you do realise AWALT.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Morpheus wrote:

My first shock was, this girl asks me for a date. I agreed. But then she expected me to entertain her. It wasn’t a dinner date or else she would have wanted me to pay too. In my mind, “You asked me to a date. Shouldn’t you entertain me. Or show you are worthy.” Never went on a date with that girl again. After a few more s~~~ty dates( I hate that word), you do realise AWALT.

It’s never a “date.” On dates, prospective couples do things together. No, you are there as a source of entertainment and a brief distraction from her phone. You’re just filler between texts from the hive, like a random beer commercial between Sex and the City reruns.

I went on a couple dates. Only a couple. I footed the bill for everything. After 3 dates (with different women) that were each about a hundred bucks, I decided (as a broke college grad) it wasn’t worth my time. The next few “dates” I had involved physical activity–something you can’t fake like long runs or bike rides. I at least got a workout from it, even if the c~~~ would later go on to destroy my life.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

Hermit wrote:

For me, MGTOW isn’t just about women. It’s about all people, male and female. Anyone is capable of f~~~ing you over.

True…but the extent the average man could f~~~ me over for is a pittance compared to what marriage and kids could end up costing you should you realize at some point in the future you chose poorly…which with today’s women is such good odds why take the gamble?

Gravel Pit wrote:

This is where you know MGTOW is going to explode because even the average Joe whose dated a little, is running. Just average guys like us who can see a problem and eventually figure it out. And many men will go their own way without knowing it.

Yup. I was shooting the s~~~ with a neighbor of mine yesterday while I was out walking the dog, and another neighbor of ours comes over. This other guy is a guy I’ve rarely said more than hi to in passing, and he just says “Gentlemen…I gotta vent with a few men for a minute.” He then went off on how f~~~ed up #MeToo is and how bad he feels for his 19 year old son who is just finishing up his first year of college considering how far things have swung in favor of women today, and how ridiculous the meaning of “rape” has become…big difference between physical force/drugging a woman and next day regrets. He’s like wtf does a young man have to do to protect himself, have her sign a contract stating its ok before he gives any compliment on her appearance or makes any move on her?

Then he goes on about how his son just inherited some money, and how he owns a few rentals so he’s going to have his son invest some of it in a rental house(out of state since my state is an over priced liberal s~~~ hole) of his own and start teaching him how s~~~ works in the rental market rather than just have money sitting in the bank doing nothing. He then says and I told him “Don’t ever tell any of the girls you date, or even if you get serious with one, how much money you have in the bank or that you own a house.”

This guys mid 50s and widowed…as far as I know never been divorce raped. He’s got a nice car, owns a few properties around here, and from what he was saying yesterday apparently a few out of state as well, and has a decent job…pretty much seems like your average family guy that has his s~~~ together. Whats the coming of age talk he gives his kid? Its not “Son…wrap it up,” its “Son…don’t put yourself in a situation to get hit by a bogus rape accusation or f~~~ed over by a gold digger.” The harder women want to push their bulls~~~ it seems the more men are waking up. If I said MGTOW in front of this guy and his kid they’d probably have no idea what I’m talking about…but this guy is pretty much explaining the modern male/female dynamics to his son like he’s teaching him a MGTOW 101 class.

The most amazing part though was that he just came up and started venting about it to me and another guy when he doesn’t really know me that well. I could have been the biggest blue pill idiot and got all offended by it, and he just came over and let it out anyhow.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Hermit wrote:

I was as naïve and innocent as a kid could be. I trusted everyone. I had no concept of evil.
The older I got, the more cruel people became. I got pushed around and f~~~ed over. My innocence and trust burned away by the evil inside other people.

I kinda know what you mean Hermit i was a bit like that too. I was a good child. I saw through the illusions in the world – like I knew the education system was bollox/indoctrination from the start. Yet I was naive with people it always surprised me back then when many kids/people/women turned out to be mean assholes. I did make a few good friends as time went by through my interest in music etc. Peace out.

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[Anonymous 12]

Morpheus wrote:

My first shock was, this girl asks me for a date. I agreed. But then she expected me to entertain her. It wasn’t a dinner date or else she would have wanted me to pay too. In my mind, “You asked me to a date. Shouldn’t you entertain me. Or show you are worthy.” Never went on a date with that girl again. After a few more s~~~ty dates( I hate that word), you do realise AWALT.

That was the reason always given to me as to why men pay for the date. The person who asks or wants the date is the one who pays for it. Ok… but women never ask, they never make the first moves. So if you are a man and want to date then you are always chasing, always entertaining, always paying.

No thank you.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

JustAnotherGuy wrote:

The next few “dates” I had involved physical activity–something you can’t fake like long runs or bike rides. I at least got a workout from it, even if the c~~~ would later go on to destroy my life.

I used take em hiking. Most girls would say they liked to hike beforehand but in reality less than one in four actually did – when the hike was getting close those ones would try and change the date into something else less physically demanding.. dinner, a movie.

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[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Yeah I think so. I always recognized something was a little odd about the whole male/female interaction especially when you look at it through the lenses of the Bible, and the women that claim to follow this. They do not.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Probably not, I drank the KoolAid society fed me.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Anonymous wrote:

Darksith wrote:

I went to a Catholic school. The nun was my first red pill in first grade. Psycho, crazy woman.

Nuns are a special kind of Evil C~~~.

The old ones were bad, the younger ones were okay. They tried changing what hand I wrote with. Didn’t work. F~~~ers.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Jackinov wrote:

Yeah I think so. I always recognized something was a little odd about the whole male/female interaction especially when you look at it through the lenses of the Bible, and the women that claim to follow this. They do not.

No modern woman today passes the bibles biblical qualifications/warnings for a man to take as a wife.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Mr LogicParticipant 625]

My last experience with an ex caused me to spiral into the red pill world and now I see that bitch as the best thing to ever happen to me. For once I realized there’s something wrong with me and it isnt that I’m nuts or bi polar, etc. Its that I let that kind of s~~~ in my life by always pursuing and dealing with women. They’re the ones with personality disorders. You give them exactly what they ask for and the next day they’re bitching about something else. I’ve had women who had the b~~~~ to sit in front of me and tell me what they expect like I’m at a f~~~ing job. Its incredible. Now with social media, it’s a no-win scenario with them. My life was so blue pilled I would s~~~ Smurfs. Now the only stress I have is trying to make more money but if that’s my only stress, I’ll take it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

No modern woman today passes the bibles biblical qualifications/warnings for a man to take as a wife.

A rather large percent of single women I’ve met over the age of 25 who claim to be religious are single moms. They just play the church card hoping to land themselves a clueless blue piller who wants to be a family man they can bleed dry. With the few that weren’t single moms…they still rode the carousel hard.

Of course church itself has also become a massive joke. After thousands of years of god apparently having very clear views on things like pre-marital sex, children out of wedlock, divorce, abortion, and homosexuality…suddenly god starts to change his mind on things as societies liberalize and church donations start to decline. I don’t know who is more about the $$$$$$$$$$…churches or women.

[Anonymous 1]

Beer wrote:

Of course church itself has also become a massive joke. After thousands of years of god apparently having very clear views on things like pre-marital sex, children out of wedlock, divorce, abortion, and homosexuality…suddenly god starts to change his mind on things as societies liberalize and church donations start to decline. I don’t know who is more about the $$$$$$$$$$…churches or women.

The Big Mega-Plex chain franchise Church in my area shows just how far they have fallen. It gets me into a Red Pill Rage.

Church has now become a C~~~ Carousel for Single Moms to get laid. They even have a souvenir shop that sells T-Shirts you can buy after the “Christian” Rock Show.

[bicycles06@yahoo.comParticipant 118]

I think you guys are referring a lot to protestant churches.
I think it’s different in cathoic and orthodox churches.
Muslim women are very different, too.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

No, and I don’t think it would be healthy. A man can become MGHOW without having to sign a marriage contract, and that’s actually the best way to become MGHOW, but he still need at least a couple of LTRs and/or cohabitations, and 3-4 would be better, since the man need to understand that there are worrying and unpleasant similarities among them, and that isn’t related to the woman as individual.
That’s why the governments are slowly turning cohabitations and even LTRs into informal contracts giving FORMAL and very real rights to women and duties to men. That’s also why we should hope that marriage contract will not totally disappear: as long as there’s still marriage contract then cohabitations and LTRs, even if modified by the government, will bring less duties and will screw men less than marriage contract.

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[AttonParticipant]

I’ve had no past experience, my status as a MGTOW and asexual where induced intellectually. My mind is far stronger than my biological hard coding and with my introverted nature I can reason.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

I always knew that I NEVER wanted to get married or have kids (I f~~~ing HATE kids!), and I’ve always considered women to be a waste of time/money. That being said, I hadn’t closed the door forever on eventually finding a girlfriend much later on in life until I found the forums here and read all of the horror stories. As little as I cared about getting a woman before, I DEFINITELY don’t want one now. I found these forums when I was trying to find other men like me that just weren’t interested in relationships. I felt like a weirdo because no one else around me thought this way. I am NOT asexual. I just didn’t think the juice is worth the squeeze. Totally different situation.

[Anonymous 12]

Do you think you would become MGTOW without past experience with women

not only experience with females.
observing MALES on how they act and how their life goes down the drain… without even knowing their woman/GF is also a vector to nudge me towards going away from it all.

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