Do you think you would become MGTOW without past experience with women

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Yes.

From the day I entered society it was obvious that girls were special.

I went to a Catholic school. The nun was my first red pill in first grade. Psycho, crazy woman.

In school, How many girls got spanked? Zero!

Every time I got spanked was from an altercation with a GIRL.

I avoided girls like the plague. Tattle tale was my nickname for them.

Women have always been who they are. It is only how long before you as a man see it for what it is

Peace brothers

[Anonymous 1]

I’m not sure what you mean by experience. I’ve never been in a “romantic” relations~~~ with a woman.

I dated a few times, but it never went anywhere. I never jumped through all the hoops to win the “pussy prize.” I didn’t really like the fact that my dates all had double digit c~~~ counts and multiple “boys” in orbit.

I did have quite a few experiences with women all through my school years. Early on I remember the public humiliation.

I remember the second grade teacher that kicked me in the b~~~~ with a smirk on her face.

I remember the Jesus Camp C~~~s that locked my best friend in a dog cage.

I remember the sadistic Nuns that tried to ruin my life for no apparent reason.

I remember the constant nagging and bitching of my Mom.

I remember Mom throwing out my crystal radio set, my chemistry set, my “hobbies” getting trashed.

Yeah, I had quite a few “experiences” with women over the years. None of them were pleasant or positive.

In addition to this, I watched my childhood friends go through divorce. I watched the Fathers getting thrown out of their own house. I watched these Men get reduced to living in a Van down by the river, while the ex-wife gets the house and regular payments…and a steady rotation of Chads.

[Anonymous 1]

DorkShit wrote:

I went to a Catholic school. The nun was my first red pill in first grade. Psycho, crazy woman.

Nuns are a special kind of Evil C~~~.

[Just MikeParticipant 393]

Not at all.

The media, social and feminist imperative is incredibly strong and I don’t think I would’ve questioned it. I had to take bites out of a few rotten apples before I realised it all tasted like s~~~. Without that I probably would’ve pined for a woman wanting to know what it was like because of all the expectations and bulls~~~ around me. Before I learnt how to ask questions I was a blind follower of what I thought everyone else wanted me to do. I was blue pill as f~~~ because I knew no other way.

Honestly, I could’ve seen pure red pill examples and not flinched. I would’ve blamed the man and stood up for the woman without asking why, or trying to find a root cause. F~~~ing society. It loves you when you serve it and tries to dismantle you for thinking otherwise.

Society: I refuse your stick and carrot. If you try to beat or shame me you'd better take me down first time. If I want smoke blown up my ass I'll buy a cigar and a length of hose.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

I would not have been MGTOW had it not been for all the women over 40 years. Of course we get clued in to the games c~~~s play when they are under 25, but it was all the experiences after that which shows their erratic and often wrath filled nature. I learned that despite being “strong”, they always need men to get them out of most jams…when the s~~~ really hits the fan 90% of women just mentally crumble. I learned that despite them being equal, I found that even the educated ones come off as retarded when it comes to fixing even the most basic of things. The list goes on and on. In the last year I churned through 4 long term pump-n-dumps, and found the “dump them three months or less theory” to always be true: Within three months they will either show their crazy, and/or begin to want to change you. So there is absolutely no way I could have gone MGTOW without the experiences of relationships.

Sovereignty above all else.

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

No way. I needed a slap in the face to see the world for what it was.

I always knew something wasn’t right but the programming is so strong. I would always try to ‘fix’ it rather than just walk away.

You don’t realise the S~~~ you’re in until you get out and see it for what it TRULY is. You CONVINCE YOURSELF you’re happy because you’re told you should be.

Heck, I was PROUD of an 8 year relationship because we were university ‘loves’ who had made it work. I told myself this even when I knew things weren’t working.

Start seeing women and society for WHAT THEY ARE rather than WHAT YOU WANT THEM TO BE.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[Anonymous 1]

I always knew marriage was a bad investment. But the XW was different. Different toppings on the same s~~~ sandwich.

After many failed relationships. And a trip to the hospital with chest pains. I came to question what is wrong here? After looking around and landing here, things started to make sense.

Never again. My life took a complete 180 after I started living my life for me. My health improved. Blood pressure from 160/100 down to 106/63 in under a year. I lost 25 pounds. I love coming home to my peaceful home.

I remember standing at my back door. Staring at it. Cause soon as I opened it. The s~~~show will start.

Never again.

[G.O.A.TParticipant 1459]

I spent most of my life living with female relatives, and let me tell you, it was hell.

I was redpill since I was 17, but not a MGTOW. I always thought of getting married. Funny thing is, I was against signing a contract at the city hall, or wherever. I always thought of getting married without a license, so, I guess the spark of MGTOW was in my heart.

But, I was still a fool. Cohabitating, kids, love was still on the menu. Lol, I was going to get f~~~ed over. But, over the few years, I learned that love doesn’t exist, I learned about how husbands/fathers have no right in this gynocentric society. I learned that society hates me just because I was born with a c~~~.

Most of these things I learned, was through other men experiences. Baby mama drama, child support/imprisonment, divorce rape…etc
Bitches that I know from high school who were f~~~ing like there’s no tomorrow, getting married to simps who has no clue of their past sins.

Bottom line is, society made me MGTOW, not just women.

Money is God.

[Anonymous 42]

I was never comfortable or felt secure, safe, and wholesome in and around women, not one of them, not ever!

Always chipping away at my corners and belittling me for whatever they can scrounge off the floor and never, not once, show any appreciation for the things I did, or gave them.

Now, and for the last 20 years, 11 month, 29 days, and a few hours, I’ve been on MGTOW road and NEVER LIVED TO REGRET ONE SECOND OF THAT TIME!

Now more than EVER it’s a true blessing from God Almighty HIMself to disavow women and their modern multifaceted madness!

Thanks ladies, you not only made marriage impossible, YOU MADE IT A CURSE!

ladies, go beg off the bankrupt state YOU DESTROYED and f~~~ a dog to pleasure yourself!

That’s how much I don’t care! You’re the dirtiest filthiest most deviant women this world has ever encountered!

F~~~ OFF AND DIE!

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

In relation to women I needed to go through the past experiences. I later became celibate by choice but eventually fell for one and that final relations~~~ lesson made me MGTOW. Society attempts to condition. See through/break the conditioning. Becoming aware of reality. Sometimes that has felt like re-connecting with what I already ‘knew’ as a child without the distraction of sex drive and less immersion in distractions/illusions of the matrix.

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[StealthParticipant 5340]

Living my own life and going my own way? I was already there.
Knowledge of women and their nature? That requires experience with women.

"Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

I was effectively MGTOW before I got married. I used to say “There is more to life than the pursuit of pussy” casually, as a statement of fact. I got briefly distracted by the small head, but it only took half a year in “sex starvation” for me to return to my roots and remember life is better when you control your own.

But I’m also deeply analytical. Not all men are. The thinkers, the builders, and the achievers all do great things at worst in spite of the women trying to cling to their coattails.

I was more ambitious before. Now I don’t care. I live in relative comfort in a low-stress environment. I have what I need.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

freedom wrote:

it wasn’t my own damn fault,

BigD wrote:

I just thought there was something wrong with me

That is why I am so happy to have found MGTOW. For years I thought it was me or my fault. It is not.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I went my own way after my first wife of six years told me to move out. Once I was divorced I could never see relationships the same again. I had taken the red pill long before the term “red pill” was established.

In my second marriage involving custody I always did half the child care even though I worked and she didn’t. When we got to court after she surprised left me after work one fine day, I had my son back within 18 hours.

So no, I needed to be divorce raped once and then, as if I were invincible, do it again, to be where I am now. I have gone my own way and have no use for women.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[DirtBikeManParticipant 535]

Me: Never married, Never cohabited, No Kids, Lots of “relationships”, 52yrs.

Why: At first I always thought; someday in the future I will marry. Lots of time, lots of fish in the sea. I always knew in my head, have your fun, because the fun stops at marriage. My subconscious was looking out for me I guess.

Now: AWALT, MGTOW. And I just cannot handle the drama and the s~~~ tests. Oh and vasectomy.

Side note: Response to “you are just Peter Pan” me: Peter Pan didn’t have a mortgage, I did, and its paid off. STFU !!!

The most important thing you can do is ask yourself, what do I really want out of life. Really think about it, and always be true to yourself. Then Do it.

[RASmanParticipant 1994]

The issue was that I never really paid attention to all the red flags the world constantly waved before my shuttered eyes. Why? When you are raised in an abusive environment you accept bulls~~~ as a normal part of life and that you have no right to seek better. The normal world was that everybody smoked, everybody got married, men worked their asses off and their wives spent it and demanded more. Girl classmates sang songs like “Girls are dandy made of candy, boys are rotten made of cotton”, movies were about constant battles between husbands and wives; one being named “How to Murder Your Wife”. That’s how the world works, I believed; that’s the path I must follow, even if it’s wrong for me, I believed.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

It was a collection of experiences for me…mainly a bunch of f~~~ed up dates, a few s~~~ty girlfriends, and meeting way more than a few guys over the years who got robbed blind in divorce court and f~~~ed on their share of custody when kids were involved. If my mind were wiped clean and I had to start from scratch, I can’t imagine I wouldn’t come to the same conclusions again, which I think says quite a bit about modern women considering how hard society still tries to brainwash men into relations~~~s.

[Anonymous 12]

RASman wrote:

The issue was that I never really paid attention to all the red flags the world constantly waved before my shuttered eyes. Why? When you are raised in an abusive environment you accept bulls~~~ as a normal part of life and that you have no right to seek better. The normal world was that everybody smoked, everybody got married, men worked their asses off and their wives spent it and demanded more. Girl classmates sang songs like “Girls are dandy made of candy, boys are rotten made of cotton”, movies were about constant battles between husbands and wives; one being named “How to Murder Your Wife”. That’s how the world works, I believed; that’s the path I must follow, even if it’s wrong for me, I believed.

I think the reason we believed that crap is because back then the game was more balanced. Men worked, women cooked and kept house.

We walked away because we started to see that the game was becoming more and more rigged.

[HermitParticipant]

For me, MGTOW isn’t just about women. It’s about all people, male and female. Anyone is capable of f~~~ing you over.

I grew up on a small farm in the middle of nowhere. Had little contact with the outside world other than school. I was as naïve and innocent as a kid could be. I trusted everyone. I had no concept of evil.

The older I got, the more cruel people became. I got pushed around and f~~~ed over. My innocence and trust burned away by the evil inside other people.

I started to hate people. I separated myself from society. I became MGTOW at a very young age, not just because of females, but all people. S~~~ty people hardened my heart against society. “F~~~ off everyone!”

So then because I wouldn’t allow people to f~~~ with me, I was labeled an asshole. I was called rude. All because I was forced to guard myself against people. I didn’t follow the herd. I was not part of “normal society”.

It took me quite a long time to stop hating people. I don’t hate them. I don’t feel sorry for them. I just want as little to do with most of them as possible.

My past experiences with women have made me realize what they are and taught me to protect myself from women. The stupid people and the evil people in this world made me MGTOW.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

It usually takes one or two relations~~~s at minimum to create a MGHOW. Some men learn fast, some get married for decades. Most men DONT WANT TO KNOW, never forget that.

Some men here at the .com got burned VERY badly after they had already learned the truth, it was too late though to be saved from the courts. I feel bad for them the most but their message is the strongest deterrent.

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