Come Into the Study for a Brandy and Cigar…

[SMADParticipant 651]

Keymaster wrote:

Besides, nobody needs to know it’s “you” when your running an online business. You can advertise the business anywhere in the same way. Doesn’t have to be here. NOBODY can stop you from engaging in a legitimate/legal business. It’s against the law.

Unfortunately, my surname is part of the company name so identity wise that’s a bit of a tricky one!

Keymaster wrote:

My friend, you gotta regard these miserable SJW feminist/leftists/libtards like f~~~ing insects. That’s all they are.

I agree, but its the militant / activist side of it that I guess is of concern. In many circles, people consider MGTOW an “aggressive movement” (ffs lol) and my thoughts of concern would be that all it takes is something like “Company / Business X is associated with MGTOW – boycott them!”

I appreciate that sounds dramatic and maybe a bit O.T.T but, MGTOW.com itself gets hacker attacks regularly I believe (and fail lol) but I can imagine some wanky little SJW sat in a basement thinking “ahh yes, let’s pick off the weaker links for s~~~s and giggles.”

Like I said, maybe I am over thinking it. But erring on the side of caution has served well so far! 🙂

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

SMAD wrote:

concern

OK then. Perhaps the question belongs on a more “non-MGTOW” forum then. I just assumed you posted it here because you wanted our help with a solution “HERE”.

SMAD wrote:

Like I said, maybe I am over thinking it. But erring on the side of caution has served well so far!

Roger that, friend.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[SMADParticipant 651]

Keymaster wrote:

OK then. Perhaps the question belongs on a more “non-MGTOW” forum then. I just assumed you posted it here because you wanted our help with a solution “HERE”.

Absolutely – I posted here because I believe that some of the STEM-based MGTOW members in the forums might be interested in a potential service, or those considering a career in STEM, etc.

The reality is that there will always be people who object to someone / something else. And looking at it from the angle of “MGTOW – a collective of men” and offering a service is nothing to be concerned of. Your wisdom and perspective has opened my eyes somewhat on that, so I thank you for comments there.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[narwhalParticipant]

SMAD,

I’m curious to know why you think people would want to buy your product? If you’re selling to students, how are your services going to improve their grades? Will it help them get a job? Do you offer some certification that you can provide that employers would recognize and respect?

Are your topics/lessons geared towards specific industries. Maybe an employer wants their admins and other non-formally trained personnel to take your course so they can better understand the business and communicate with the professionals?

I’m not a sales expert by a longshot, but it sounds like your selling something that people haven’t exactly been looking for. So part of selling needs to be that you make sure they understand how your product makes your life better. If you were selling hot dogs, people know exactly what a hot dog does for them. If you were selling security, you have to convince people they aren’t safe until they buy your stuff.

Ok. Then do it.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

narwhal wrote:

SMAD,

I’m curious to know why you think people would want to buy your product? If you’re selling to students, how are your services going to improve their grades? Will it help them get a job? Do you offer some certification that you can provide that employers would recognize and respect?

Are your topics/lessons geared towards specific industries. Maybe an employer wants their admins and other non-formally trained personnel to take your course so they can better understand the business and communicate with the professionals?

I’m not a sales expert by a longshot, but it sounds like your selling something that people haven’t exactly been looking for. So part of selling needs to be that you make sure they understand how your product makes your life better. If you were selling hot dogs, people know exactly what a hot dog does for them. If you were selling security, you have to convince people they aren’t safe until they buy your stuff.

I’ll drink to that. *downs the last of the brandy in glass*
(I’m enjoying reading the exchanges here.)

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[SMADParticipant 651]

narwhal wrote:

I’m not a sales expert by a longshot, but it sounds like your selling something that people haven’t exactly been looking for.

Hi Narwhal,

You make some excellent points and I have taken some time to think about the response. In regards to selling the “workshop” to students, I have made it “very” cheap, but in regards to selling the product to schools, etc, the price is significantly more.

The basic idea of my workshop is that there are “E-Books” that will be available for download for members only, which will explore spacecraft engineering in a more accessible form. It’s also to build up a space industry in a part of the UK that isn’t really strong, as I have a few industry links that are interested in doing so.

Plus, if schools are members, then it means I will come in to do day visits when usually people will charge £200+ for A DAY to come in, and my rate will be a little lower for an ongoing membership of visits + resources.

It’s definitely a very niche field but, I am keeping the workshop “flexible” and open for negotiation in terms of the larger customer base – for example, reduced rate for those that want less visits, or higher for a more regular slot / teaching etc.

Marriage?  No thanks, i'm not ready to be THAT miserable.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Mr. Man wrote:

SMAD wrote:

Are you looking to take on staff as part of your new business, or are you hoping to go solo and enjoy the peace / solitude of not having anyone to be responsible for, etc?

I won’t have any staff, only contractors for various tasks like product photography, accounting and most importantly, warehouse fulfillment.

The lesson I learned from my last small business was to outsource every single thing I can — rather than wearing ALL the hats — while leaving the core work that no one else can do (and the most enjoyable part) to me.

You can wear all of the hats for a while, maybe a year or two, but then you’ll just burn out. I’m not going to let myself burn out this time.

I’ve hired staff before, and I want no part of it again.

my opinion is that hiring outside consultants for the different hats may help prevent yourself from getting burned out, BUT, they will not care about your business as much as you do, and it becomes incredibly expensive.

Even if you hire independent contractors, you’re still paying for their medical, taxes, benefits, but indirectly since the hourly rate for an IC tends to be much higher than for an employee.

If you are just starting off a business, you should wear all the hats because it helps you understand all aspects of your business, and you reduce your fixed costs, which decreases the chances of your business failing prematurely. You only hire professional help if really necessary such as professional legal/accounting consultation.

After your business starts taking off, you can start hiring out various functions so you can focus on your core business and generating more revenue.

Make no mistake about it, starting and running your own business profitably can be tough. It is one thing to have a great idea for a business, it’s an entirely different story taking that idea and turning it into a successful business. Startups take WORK. If you’re not willing to put in more effort to make $xx than a 9-5 job, then you should just work the 9-5 job, and not worry about the risk of losing money or an unstable income.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

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