Before Any Men Decide To Go To College

[Anonymous 0]

Watch this documentary about the College Conspiracy. I regret ever going to college and I would advise all men to avoid doing so. Because unless your parents are paying for all of your college expenses good luck ever getting a job. I was smart enough to pull out early when I did and prevented myself from getting into much deeper debt. It is much worse having a $200,000 debt than a debt with fewer decimals.

College is no longer worth it especially due to the fact that feminists,social justice warriors and blacktivists are destroying the academia from within that only exist to destroy and underming your potential future for a financial success. There are more women than men that are currently attending college because the government pays,I mean “subsidize” women to go to college meanwhile men are being booted,harassed and ostracized off campuses meanwhile most men who think critically are smart enough to avoid college in the first place.

A man with a college degree with a debt is actually far worse than a man without a degree and no debt because companies are forced to pay you much higher for the same job that you do because the government forces them to pay their employees higher wages to help them pay off those loans. You are pretty much considered toxic to a company and no company hiring manager is willing to hire a man with exceptional skills that could potentially simply replace them in the future.

Gentlemen avoid college because college has become a cesspool of propaganda,communism and hatred. The only thing you will ever learn in college is how to waste your time and your money and as a MGTOW I refuse to lose either both.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

S~~~……….i’m already in 3rd year of studies

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I understand, but don’t we run the risk of becoming a worker underclass with the women being the rulers?

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[BudtaoParticipant 293]

Blue Skies wrote:

S~~~……….i’m already in 3rd year of studies

Yeah, that’s where I am and I think that 2 years is about as far as I am willing to go. I am finding that the rate of true education in colleges is really just a trickle. The rest of the time they seems hell-bent on making you take pointles classes with pointless assignments. How many research papers on random subjects that have no pertainance to my eventual career do I need ot take. Even in the classes that were pertainant to my ultimate career, I finished the work necessary in the first two weeks. It is astounding that anyone sees any value to the money they spend on what is basically just 4 years of busy-work.

I did have some slight disagreements with some of the statements they made at the end. I personally think that if we do end up in a hyperinflationary depression it will make keeping the internet running as we know it difficult. I wouldn’t be supprised if the Ad-driven part of the internet collapses completely. We will probably see a scaling back to more text/pictures, less video.

As to the online education. I think there are resources that are useful if you are an autodidact, but my experience with online classes is FAR from positive. Mostly because the whole purpose to taking a class is being able to have those one-on-one interactions with the professor. If these professors end up having thousands of students, then I have serious doubts as to how effectively they are actually teaching.

I personally would rather see the rise of tradeschools and the monasterial model of Universities where one goes to study and practice an academic trade for their whole lives, not just going to university for a few short years.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[Everything is all we’ve gotParticipant 233]

I dropped out in my first year – I was doing a live music production degree and realised I don’t really like the overly technical side of things and working closer with people themselves is more my thing.

Still, just that one year of university has set me back £9000… it’s ridiculous.

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[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22522]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I understand, but don’t we run the risk of becoming a worker underclass with the women being the rulers?

We are pretty much there. I just don’t want to be an underclass worker dealing with a mountain debt on top of all my other problems.

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

Everything is all we’ve got wrote:

Still, just that one year of university has set me back £9000… it’s ridiculous.

So that’s roughly 13626.9 US dollars. Here tuition is roughly 13000-16000(books are probably another 2-3 thousand). So yeah, its worse here(Seattle, Wa) and there is talk of raising tuition another 40% here.

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[Anonymous 0]

Blue Skies wrote:

S~~~……….i’m already in 3rd year of studies

What degree are you going for and also have you noticed fewer men attending classes and more women simply replacing them?

When I was in college there was literally only 2 men in my reading and english class and I was one of them. There used to be a total of 5 but they all had left for certain unexplained reasons.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

A man with a college degree with a debt is actually far worse than a man without a degree and no debt because companies are forced to pay you much higher for the same job that you do because the government forces them to pay their employees higher wages to help them pay off those loans. You are pretty much considered toxic to a company and no company hiring manager is willing to hire a man with exceptional skills that could potentially simply replace them in the future.

Not really…some jobs you simply won’t get without the degree. I’ll pull in 100-150k next year depending on OT and bonuses, the last job I had I was making 45k a year. That extra 50-100k per year for as long as I work was definitely worth the approx. 50k I’ve spent on college over the years(I got 2 degrees or I could have done it a little faster/cheaper). I’d have had no shot at my current job with no degree, and considering the amount of science and technology involved in the job they actually want someone with a bit more background in math, physics, and electrical then what they offer in highschool. I have a cousin a semester away from being a pharmacist, he’ll be making around 130k his first year out of school…current career path without that degree for him caps out around 15 bucks an hour as a pharm tech. I know plenty of people with engineering degrees averaging in the 70-80k range. Hell I even know someone with 250k in student loans, but she’s making 200-300k a year in the medical field so that isn’t all that bad. I’d much rather have 250k debt and a 250k a year job then 0 debt and a 50k a year job. Maybe you’d be ahead right now without the debt but 5 years down the road she’s going to be light years beyond where she’d be with no college.

You just have to be smart about your major and be smart about what schools you go to. I know around here community colleges only cost about 3k a semester, so you can basically get an associates for 12k, and its all guaranteed to transfer to any state school, so your halfway to a bachelors for 12k. People that blow 40k a year on a school to get into a low paying field are shooting themselves in the foot…but its still a good investment if commute to community college/state schools, don’t run up a mountain of debt, and go into a field where you’ll be able to make 60k+.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

What degree are you going for and also have you noticed fewer men attending classes and more women simply replacing them?

When I was in college there was literally only 2 men in my reading and english class and I was one of them. There used to be a total of 5 but they all had left for certain unexplained reasons.

Haha my first degree was a liberal arts degree, and it was like this. Almost every class was at least 4 women for every man. My second degree was an engineering degree and the ratio was reversed. There might be more women in college, but I still think way more men are getting degrees that actually have earning potential.

[Anonymous 0]

Everything is all we’ve got wrote:

I dropped out in my first year – I was doing a live music production degree and realised I don’t really like the overly technical side of things and working closer with people themselves is more my thing.

Still, just that one year of university has set me back £9000… it’s ridiculous.

It’s a good thing you pulled out when you did. I have several debts of my own but I have no real intention of paying them back. There is no use in putting money into a bottomless pit when you can use that very money for your own skills or business.

I have never been so addicted to the internet and self-studies than ever before. I wish I had the money I had wasted during college and other useless jobs had put it to better use. I am much smarter and wiser now than ever.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

@The under network

i’m in engineering,……..way more guys than girls in classes

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Anonymous 0]

Beer wrote:

The Under Network wrote:

A man with a college degree with a debt is actually far worse than a man without a degree and no debt because companies are forced to pay you much higher for the same job that you do because the government forces them to pay their employees higher wages to help them pay off those loans. You are pretty much considered toxic to a company and no company hiring manager is willing to hire a man with exceptional skills that could potentially simply replace them in the future.

Not really…some jobs you simply won’t get without the degree. I’ll pull in 100-150k next year depending on OT and bonuses, the last job I had I was making 45k a year. That extra 50-100k per year for as long as I work was definitely worth the approx. 50k I’ve spent on college over the years(I got 2 degrees or I could have done it a little faster/cheaper). I’d have had no shot at my current job with no degree, and considering the amount of science and technology involved in the job they actually want someone with a bit more background in math, physics, and electrical then what they offer in highschool. I have a cousin a semester away from being a pharmacist, he’ll be making around 130k his first year out of school…current career path without that degree for him caps out around 15 bucks an hour as a pharm tech. I know plenty of people with engineering degrees averaging in the 70-80k range. Hell I even know someone with 250k in student loans, but she’s making 200-300k a year in the medical field so that isn’t all that bad. I’d much rather have 250k debt and a 250k a year job then 0 debt and a 50k a year job. Maybe you’d be ahead right now without the debt but 5 years down the road she’s going to be light years beyond where she’d be with no college.

You just have to be smart about your major and be smart about what schools you go to. I know around here community colleges only cost about 3k a semester, so you can basically get an associates for 12k, and its all guaranteed to transfer to any state school, so your halfway to a bachelors for 12k. People that blow 40k a year on a school to get into a low paying field are shooting themselves in the foot…but its still a good investment if commute to community college/state schools, don’t run up a mountain of debt, and go into a field where you’ll be able to make 60k+.

I will gladly accept your opinion when colleges give 300% money back guarantees and clear off people’s debts if the degree you studied for actually promises the amount of money you were supposed to be making is insured, until then colleges are actually worse than casinos that gamble your precious time and money.

College is an investment and if I am investing heavily on it there better be insurance of getting both back my time and money.

This man proves that you can make all the right choices, but reality can still kick you to the curb.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22522]

Anonymous wrote:

College is an investment and if I am investing heavily on it there better be insurance of getting both back my time and money.

College is not an investment. Strictly speaking, an ‘investment’ is wealth you already have that you are willing to risk on projects for those projects potentially reaping benefits for you. Though, you can also lose that investment in those projects. Both, either way, you are not in debt if the projects collapse. Yes. You lose the investments, but it is reset to zero from what you put in. You are no put into the negative, and into debt.

On the other hand, college is more of a gamble on a loan, that if you lose you are still forced to pay back the loan/debt with interest.

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

I understand, but don’t we run the risk of becoming a worker underclass with the women being the rulers?

I don’t know about that. Women are going to school and getting useless degrees and thousands in debt. Women like making money, but you don’t see many female doctors, you see a lot of female nurses and teachers. The truly lucrative jobs require actual work. Most women are content getting a degree in liberal arts or gender studies. Good luck making money with all that.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Silverstone the Second wrote:

Jan.Sobieski wrote:

I understand, but don’t we run the risk of becoming a worker underclass with the women being the rulers?

I don’t know about that. Women are going to school and getting useless degrees and thousands in debt. Women like making money, but you don’t see many female doctors, you see a lot of female nurses and teachers. The truly lucrative jobs require actual work. Most women are content getting a degree in liberal arts or gender studies. Good luck making money with all that.

Wrong. I see lots of female MDs. Women are smoking men in most STEM fields. It is more spin to send more money to women.

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[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Anonymous wrote:

College is an investment and if I am investing heavily on it there better be insurance of getting both back my time and money.

There’s no guarantees in life, but use your head.

What ever the title of your degree will be, type it into craigslist jobs or indeed dot com and see how many hits your get and what type there are.

The first time I was in college, every semester I asked myself whether or not the courses I was signing up for would either teach me a skill that companies would be willing to pay me to use, or would it help me with marketing said skills. Thus english classes were in the latter category, and computer programming classes were in the former.

I decided not to worry about the degree and instead worry about learning things that would get me paid in the long run. Done pretty well that way.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

Anonymous wrote:

College is an investment and if I am investing heavily on it there better be insurance of getting both back my time and money.

If you find any investment guaranteeing returns….run far, far away from it.

That’s not even mentioning that I highly doubt schools would even want to recommend every student that graduates. I met plenty of people that scraped by with D’s, didn’t work well with others, and who generally just had s~~~ty attitudes in college that I’d never give a good reference for, so I’m confident any of the professors wouldn’t want to either. Hell I even graduated with one c~~~ who showed up to a class tour of a secured facility with a marijuana bowl in her purse. Visitors had to have a special pass and escort as they don’t have security clearance, and anything you try to carry in is subject to a search by security. They threw her off the site. She now has literally no chance of ever working at that place(which 7 of the 20 people I graduated are now at all making 70k+ a year), and has no chance of using any of the professors in our program as a reference in the future.

I’m not saying you need college to make money, or just because you have college you will make money…I’m just saying if you pick a good major, work hard, and opt to go to community college/state schools that cost a fraction of what a private college does, I don’t think its a bad move. I also noticed with my program, a few of my engineering professors were adjuncts and all had active careers or retired and were teaching part time to stay busy…but regardless they all still had contacts in places other then the academia world. For those of us that got decent grades and were decent people, these professors were more then happy to drop our names with the appropriate hiring managers to help us get jobs but they damn sure wouldn’t put their reputation on the line recommending someone they knew was a moron.

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

Go to community college for a two year. Get a job at a large company with tuition reimbursement.

Stay out of debt as best you can.

This!

Also, just out of curiosity as I’m ignorant on this subject but are Universities in more conservative areas less prone to pervasive radical feminism? I would like to think that and think it makes sense but don’t know.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

In Canada before 1974 college education was free.

From my research i have found college education is much cheaper in Germany. From what i read online they do have many courses taught in English. Note this doesn’t mean that is accurate you will have to call these places to verify the information.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2014/10/10/germany_college_is_free_there_even_for_foreign_students_why.html

There is also online courses which are support by some tech companies. It appears only about 40% of the employers would accept students from this online university for jobs. http://uopeople.edu/

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