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    Sidecar: Actually, it advocated disclosing a variation to BOTH partners, and leaving it to paternity testing labs to report definitive results with near certainty. The first paragraph reads:

    “In 1996, I argued that the recommendation by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) to inform women when tests reveal misattributed paternity and not to disclose this information to the women’s partners was morally wrong.I argued in favor of disclosure to both parties. It is a position that I still hold. But claims of misattributed paternity are not ‘incidental findings’ as it was called in the old genetics literature, but a rather serious indictment of biological infidelity. In this paper I argue that the tests used by transplant programs for living donor–recipient compatibility are inadequate to accurately determine misattributed paternity. Further I argue that it is not the responsibility of the transplant community to undertake such serious forensic evaluations. Genetic inconsistencies in ABO and HLA inheritance should be reported as variations. Families whowant further clarification should be referred to a genetic professional.”

    I tend to agree with this. That said, to an educated individual such as you or me, ‘variation’ = 99%+ chance you’ve been cucked. But it is not responsible to report it as absolutely definitive without further testing.

    The actual tabulation of the rates in this journal article, are actually taken from

  • https://journals.lww.com/transplantjournal/fulltext/2009/05270/Discovering_Misattributed_Paternity_in_Living.1.aspx#pdf-link
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I still hold that the claimed rates of “misattributed paternity” are suspect. Or perhaps it’s just that this news is not ‘some big secret.’
You’d have to be a real ignoramus not to notice your Dad/Kid looks nothing like you so in real cases of misattributed paternity, its probably old news to these people.

…I argue that the tests…for donor–recipient compatibility are inadequate to accurately determine misattributed paternity. Further I argue that it is not the responsibility of the transplant community …..

What a load of bullcrap.
1. The test shows beyond doubt…. inadequate my ass..
2. Omission of the whole truth is lying… Its a serious disservice not to disclose that fact.

The quote that starts “In 1996…” is a giant contradicting word salad.

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Gravel Pit: The author has had the same position since 1996, or about 13 years. Reporting it as a ‘variation’ when it hasn’t been verified by multiple tests, seems sensible. Though I would not call it a ‘variation’ but rather, a ‘high probability of infidelity’, with further testing recommended to verify with absolute certainty.

At least this author actually DOES advocate sharing the results with BOTH parents. It’s then up to THEM to seek out additional testing through a paternity testing lab. Bear in mind, many ‘medical ethicists’ don’t believe the information should be shared at all with the husbank or partner.

As far as whether this study’s estimates are low, some experts would say yes.

Just as the paternity testing lab results are expected to be HIGHER than actual (because those seeking tests, are doing so because paternity is in question, e.g. cheating spouse), and run ~30% ‘not yer Daddy!’, so too do transplant tests potentially come up on the low side.

The basis of that is, the mother is often told during counseling before testing, or knows, that such testing will potentially reveal infidelity, and thus, the testing never takes place. OR she finds out what the transplant center’s policy is on sharing misattributed paternity BEFORE going to that center.

What limited data sets exist on this, also indicate variation between countries (Canada has twice the rate as the US, so guess I’ll have to call it Cuckada). The rate is higher among couples who are not married and poor.

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