Are MGTOWs sexist?

[AttonParticipant]

Sexism is a standard defined by women that is sufficiently broad to allow for it to be applied to anything. It has many different forms such as “You hate women”, “Misogyny”, “Chauvinist Pig” they all mean the same thing. Only women have the right to speak only they have the rights to the forum, that is what they really mean by using the term sexism. It is best ignored since the men who can power through these accusations end up getting what they deserve a voice. When men take back their voice they gain a huge amount of power over their lives.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“Are MGTOW sexist?”

“What does that even mean? Do you even KNOW what you’re saying?”

“Of course! It means….. do you treat people better (or worse) based entirely on their gender?”

“Thank you for clarifying. I treat everyone according to their own behavior. Problem??? Does that answer your question you f~~~ing idiot.”

That’s how thoughtless they are.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Keymaster wrote:

Meister wrote:

Sexism” is on of those words like “racist” …. they use instead of actual arguments.

True that.

EXAMPLE:

On Yahoo message boards (or Yahoo Answers), you can’t type the word “negro” because their website doesn’t allow it, and it’s considered “racist”. The word is blocked , and shows up like this “*****”.

But you CAN donate money to “The United Negro College Fund”.
You just can’t type that out on Yahoo.

Does everyone see the glaring hypocrisy in that?
If they BENEFIT from it, the word is not “racist” anymore.

Sexism works in exactly the same way.

It’s “sexist” if you refuse to pay for a woman.
It’s “gentlemanly” if you believe a man should always pay.

… or even a more petty example….. go on TV and say “women are smarter than men” and get an automatic round of applause and laughter. Say “men are smarter than women”, and POOF! you’re a “sexist” asshole who should be booed off the stage.

Valentines Day wasteful spending 14 billion on women?
Wonderful and STRONGLY encouraged!!
Call it “International MGTOW Day” and spend YOUR money on yourSELF?
“Sexist”.

Would this be acceptable to those who use the word “sexist” if the sexes where REVERSED????

How a about this?

Or this?

Who’s “sexist” now.

I don’t know If you know this. But have you tried out yandex mail. It’s a Russian site run by a man that doesn’t have his b~~~~ in a jar as far as I know.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Forgot the question mark in the sentence.

This is off topic but the reason I ask about it is because there are a lot of people in Canada that I know of that uses yahoo and gmail. And since yahoo is a piece of crap, I thought that maybe we could make a list of what search engines or email services to check out and use. I’ll make a new post later on about the search engines/email service I use after switching OS.

I know you guys may have your alternatives, but it’s just nice to share some ideas.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Back to the main topic. Women just love to throw that word around. Really it’s just a way for them to create either a red herring or a strawman argument depending on the context of the conversations when dealing with women.

I think women are very good at making red herrings arguments to mislead someone away from one topic to another when it comes to insults.

Now a strawman argument from what I’ve experience is a different story altogether because I haven’t talked to women all that much anymore. So I don’t know how well a women in Canada can try to make a strawman argument.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Based on the accepted and subscribed to primary dictionary definition of the word the answer would be yes, as there is no defense for the accused.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sexism

Mind you that definition only applies to MEN, as the fallacy of “women do not discriminate against women” is still fostered.
So that “definition” in itself is “sexist”.

What is remarkable to me is that the secondary definition, which would actually be more correct and should be the PRIMARY definition, is largely over shadowed by the “feeling” of the current primary definition.

Also please note that the word was first used in 1968, primarily by the feminist movement and their supporters in the USA and its resulting infestation the rest of the world.

Once you add the appendage of “ist” to a word it supposedly becomes an ideology or movement per the dictionary definition of “ist”.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/-ist

Now look back at the definition of sex.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sex
Apparently our species didn’t have sex until 1884. (those pesky Americans and their fancy new fangled things are to blame 😀 )

So in 1968 some social retard thought it “felt” good and right to add the prefix and suffix together to make up a new word to add ammo to the “gender wars” they started.
In essence the word “sexist” has no real definition nor place of use within the human language lexicon(s), as the “essence/spirit” of the definition is already covered completely with the word and definition of discrimination.

In summary good sir,
How can I, or any man for that matter (at any point in human history (past/present/or future)) be guilty of being “sexist” when the word and definition are both made up, and inherently sexist in it own made up definition?

Just my 3 cents.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 2]

Asking “Are MGTOWs sexist?” is like asking “Are atheists vegans?” One has no correlation with the other. MGTOW is merely a stance against gynocentrism, where men live their lives by their own rules. Other than that, the views of individual MGTOWs are all over the map. MGTOW is not an ideology, like feminisim. It doesn’t have a set of beliefs that every member has to follow. The same way atheists have no set of beliefs and merely share a non-belief in deities.

[FrankOneParticipant 1418]

Murph: I think it’s important to note that mainstream feminism is ‘sexist’ in this discussion.

I would argue there are also individuals who call themselves feminists (‘individualist feminists’) who don’t prescribe to rape culture, but, it is an extreme minority. Take, for instance, Wendy McElroy’s book, ‘Rape Culture Hysteria’. Her web page has blog topics like ‘Going Galt’ and ‘Fruality’. McElroy is a Canadian individualist anarchist feminist who defends pornography. Obviously, the tenets of individualist feminism are held by only a miniscule fraction of ‘feminists’ https://lfb.org/interview-with-wendy-mcelroy-on-feminism-in-america/

Excerpt below:

The main tenet of individualist feminism is that women and men deserve equal treatment under just law. A just legal system is one that seeks to protect the person and property of individuals equally, and it is applied to all individuals.

Mainstream feminism advocates social and economic egalitarianism, which necessarily violates the property rights of individuals. For example, affirmative action and non-discrimination policies dictate who should be hired by private companies, who risk sanctions such as lawsuits if they do not comply. Mainstream feminists applaud this use of governmental force to violate the property rights of individuals — including business owners — in order to distribute money and power within society from men to women.

It is also important to note, that mainstream feminism itself, is SEXIST. Individualist feminism, in contrast, is not sexist and represents equal treatment under the law. The reason I would argue mainstream feminism is ‘sexist’ is because most feminists I’ve known advocate for preferential college admissions, hiring, etc. When confronted with this irrefutable reality, the ones I know basically say ‘we have to make up for past discrimination and have these quotas until there is balance’. Well, what do you do AFTER you reach parity, e.g. in college admissions where the majority is now female? Why must we have parity? Does that mean we must have parity in, say, nursing and STEM, or ONLY overall parity? It is a big difference between equality of outcomes (mainstream feminism fed to the sheeple) and equality of opportunity (what McElroy calls ‘individualist feminism’ and I simply call ‘equality’).

I try to treat people as INDIVIDUALS to be judged individually. At the same time, I necessarily apply statistics or prejudice. If I see a guy in his teens wearing gang colors with a bulge in his pants where he has a gun, I don’t stop to ask directions; if I see an old man in a suit and tie I’m more likely to stop and ask him directions than Mr. Gangbanger, because he’s simply less likely to be a mugger.

Grumpy: Yes, I noted the same about the word itself being sexist. I’d also note, we ALREADY had a word in the english language, chauvinist that is all-encompassing. Its definition is:

showing or relating to excessive or prejudiced loyalty or support for a particular group or cause.
“a chauvinist slur”

Of course, the word is most frequently coupled with ‘male’ and ‘pig’ rather than ‘female’. But, many leading ‘feminists’ are/were chauvinists. Be sure to call them out on that.

[Anonymous 2]

FrankOne wrote:

Murph: I think it’s important to note that mainstream feminism is ‘sexist’ in this discussion.

I never said that feminism wasn’t sexist. I said that MGTOW can not be classified as sexist because it is merely a stance against gynocentrism, where men live their lives by their own rules instead of playing the role of the disposable male. That is, of course, unless a person is claiming that anything against gynocentrism is sexist, which is basically the feminist stance, but they’ll never admit to that.

Feminism is sexist because it is an ideology that puts women above men. Sure, women can scream “Feminism is about equality! Look it up in the dictionary!” all they want, but any man who buys that s~~~ is a damn fool. It’s like expecting black people in the U.S. to have bought into the idea that segregation was about equality by pointing to the Plessy vs. Ferguson ruling that segregation was based on, and saying “It says ‘separate, but equal’! What don’t you understand about that ‘equal’ part?! It says equal, so it’s about equality!”

No man should be that stupid to buy into the “feminism is about equality” argument, but boys get brainwashed from childhood to believe they are a privileged group and women are getting a s~~~ deal, when all evidence points to the exact opposite. Hopefully, men will continue to wake up in larger numbers and call that bulls~~~ out for what it is.

[FreedomParticipant 965]

The way I look at it…we’re MGTOW and it means something different to each and everyone of us.

But one common theme is ‘We don’t give a s~~~ or care about the expectations and bull-s~~~ from society’. We just don’t give a f~~~. We’ve walked away.

So if someone accuses me of being sexist…I don’t give a f~~~….and therefore the accusation becomes meaningless. It just a pointless word.

She cheated on me ..... my fault. I showed an interest in another woman......my fault.

[Anonymous 14]

A little play on the words..

Are MGTOWs the s e x i e s t?

Answer: Yes we are.

Just ask some of those women against feminism. 😉

[Anonymous 14]

And you also forgot the other two magic words. chauvinist and misogynist.

Cue Queen Bitch:

[Anonymous 1]

If I’m sexist for holding every individual accountable for their behaviour, then so be it.

If anything, I should be rewarded for promoting equal rights.

I’m just giving you what you want, baby.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

No.

Pointing out the truth is not sexist.

Last time I checked, no MGTOW is out to ruin a woman’s life with false allegations of sexual assault or denying them a job simply because of their gender.

Also: If you plan to engage in this type of debate on other forums or the YouTube comment section; this means getting mean. Plumb, mad-dog mean. The f~~~~~ SJW/feminist/mangina brigade is relentless in their character assassination. Whether you’re arguing about MGTOW or about that MaRey Sue from TFA, you will be assaulted with ‘ist’ words. Sometimes at the beginning and sometimes at the end when their argument fails.

I always appreciated what Aldan Hamil said about me at mgtowhq, he called my posting style scorched earth. I don’t quite post like that often any more, but it comes out once in awhile. Point being, you will get burn out. I just deleted my entire Google account because I can’t take the stupid any more. You can only type and re-type…….and re-type the same argument over and over and over again while they ignore the multiple links to prove what you’re saying. Responding to comments became like work. That’s time I could be at the gym, the range, cleaning my guns or skating for free now that the town flooded the rink.

I’m older. My tolerance for stupid is low. Lines have been drawn and I know what side I’m on.

Sorry to go on. Best of luck in your adventures. Let us know what happens.

Fuck this planet.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

It is a german forum. So I didnt expect a s~~~storm only because the title of the video I posted included the word MGTOW.
MGTOW is totally unknown here usually.
I only posted it, because TFM explains it so well in short time there.
Of course it is totally absurd to believe I was trying to get a bunch of females and male feminists into MGTOW. Why would I want such people here, besides they would get kicked out anyways after they write their first post. But logic doesnt matter anymore I guess.
After i posted the Video a few different people said what MGTOW was and 1 even wrote a complete BS essay about MGTOW.

Its funny what the moderator took as proof that MGTOW is sexist after all.

Zitat:

I’m happy to class myself as a misogynist these days because feminists have rendered the word meaningless with their hyperbowl.

und:
Zitat:

And by the way:

Who cares what women want?

So he was too stupid to figure out the logic of the first one and what it actually says.

And obviously its also sexist, to not care what women want…

He closed the topic immediately to prevent me from commenting on it.

[Cap285Participant 6007]

Ohno wrote:

He closed the topic immediately to prevent me from commenting on it.

That is concession. You won.

Fuck this planet.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Cap285 wrote:

That is concession. You won.

Yep.

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