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Yes it is but instead of just cowering in a corner like a dog accept the badge with honor.
Before however you need to learn why which is really simple is that mgtow is about staying away from commitment to women not only because women these days tend to be c~~~s but the system gives men no control in their relationships with them giving the slightest bit of control a ranking of abuse.
Mgtow states it is better to not to marry women these days then to go your own way which can mean anything from playing video games, doing drugs (my way) or becoming a award winning scientist whatever fate you choose is better then shacking up in a relationship which you have no control in.
So whenever people try to use the sexism argument you instead of running away proclaim yourself to be a proud sexist because women will find anything sexist and their opinions are meaningless along with any white knights who appease them since the women and the white knights do not operate based off of logic.
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This is along the lines of a moral panic. It’s also a straw man argument, essentially.
“Are MGTOWs sexist?” sets up the conclusion that the concepts of MGTOW are sexist if certain members of the group are sexist. They did this to Trump as well.
Simply because certain members of a group or a philosophy have negative traits does not mean that the group or philosophy itself have negative traits.
Feminism is a wildly sexist philosophy. Its tenets are sexist, because they promote differential treatment of men and women before the law / legally. The beliefs of feminism are sexist in nature.
While certain individual members of MGTOW may be sexist, or racist, or Hindu, or Jewish, or jaywalkers, that does not imply that MGTOW itself is sexist, or racist, or Hindu, or Jewish, or jaywalkers.
My understanding of MGTOW as a philosophy is that it is quite literally Men Going Their Own Way, who reject the dominant paradigm, especially as it regards relationships. Rather than investing heavily in sexual relationships in terms of time and money, they instead choose to invest in themselves and in other interests.
I don’t see this as sexist. Christianity, the dominant philosophy and faith of the West until the West started declining and sliding into decadence, states that it is preferable not to marry, and one should marry only as an alternative to burning. Other religions have similar beliefs about the societal value of remaining single.
I don’t see choosing not to focus on sexual relationships as somehow sexist, and any society that would attempt to force males (or females) into pair-bonding would be terrifying in the extreme, and one I could not possibly support.
No, the sexism argument is a straw man argument, particularly as it is phrased. Proving that one or two MGTOWs are sexist (statistically, I’m sure some are, of course) is no more relevant than proving that one or two Trump supporters are racist. So what? That doesn’t make Trump racist. There are certainly racist and sexist enjoyers of the Beatles. That doesn’t make the Beatles racist or sexist.
The logic of the MGTOW way given current societal circumstances is so strong that there’s no real argument against it. We’re moving from the phase of being laughed at to being actively opposed, and quite quickly. Herbivore Japan is quickly becoming the Herbivore West, and we are moving towards a demographic cliff.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
Anonymous1When it comes to bluepillers, stating harsh truths will only make ’em angry(personal experience+). Rather than telling them that his wife do not loves him(this make me lol anyway), focus on the respect. Tell the people to get into the husband clothes; you have an accident and are unable to have sex(that is already a bad spot for any person), your wife tells you that it is not a problem, and then cheats behind your back. Is that the behavior of a person that respects his life-long partner?
Ask them to reverse the genders, what would a woman(without a vagina) do, if the man tells her that it is not a problem and then cheats behind her back?
If a person is honest in a relation, that person would say “Our story can’t go on, this is over”, and then do whatever she wants. A relation without honesty is useless.—>for bluepillers.
She wanted both the worlds, Chads and an husband that don’t even want sex because unable to do it.—>harsh truth.
Her behavior is c~~~ish style, she do not respect her husband, and she lied to him. That is a truth that even they cannot deny.
I think that you are burned out on that forum man, but learn for the future, talking openly to people that are completely brainwashed like them is only going to backfire.
Mod (male): Thx, thats enough. So they are sexist.
Just a little advice.
For such utterances of these members ( including your own there ) you get an instant Ban here.
If you make some of this stuff your own here you get kicked out.And who cares about forums that think we are sexist?
I don’t care if they exist or not. Same as I don’t care about cheap radios.
I guess the moderator of the forum will join us after his first “bloody” and life-wrecking divorce…
Sometimes getting banned from something is good. I always got banned from parties given by stupid people, hardly ever openly spoken out but I rather chose not to appear…
Because the “inner circle” of dumb people always wanted to be among themselves…
As it turned out to be, having “missed the train” to bad friends, relationships and marriage has made me a very happy person.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
It is very simple, so simple even they can understand it:
“You either understand women, or you love them”.
We understand them.A lot of people don’t even realize when women coudln’t vote…. MEN COULDN”T EITHER. Yet men still went out and DIED for “women’s rights”.
I have no words and want to say many things in the same time. It was pure idiotism. In the same time I’m not surprised by s~~~ of the white feather girls. That’s what I’m talking about when say the female’s world. They don’t need us in a big number. So they will be trying to rid of us everytime they have a chance. But the postulate that a man must to fight for a woman was accepted by men many ages ago and was supported by men.
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mod who asked me what my stand is about being a sexist as a MGTOW.
Very loaded question. I would have told him –>> it’s not “sexist” if it’s TRUE. Then I would ask if a “sexist” statement like “a man should always pay” qualifies? That would bake his noodle, wouldn’t it? If you say “men are smarter than woman” are you now sexist? And what if it’s true?
TIME® magazine says “men are idiots” according to some study – but are they REALLY? If men are idiots because they take idiotic risks, then women don’t ever get to benefit from those risks. They can cross the country in a buggy instead of an airplane.
http://time.com/3631350/men-are-idiots-new-study-says/You can’t exchange in any kind of sane discourse with these people. They are not after that. They are after snot-nosing others into submission. It’s all designed to get you to chase your own tail and arrive at no resolution.
But what if ( in your MGTOW discussions ) you recommend letting women THINK they are “smarter” than you? That was Hillary’s hubris too. So if you want to have a REAL exchange that leads some kind of outcome worth your time, you ignore them completely.
They aren’t worth bothering with.
You don’t need to broadcast a “MGTOW” stance. It’s best to keep it in your pocket until you really need it. Anything that doesn’t contain female worship is “sexist” and if you adjust your stance accordingly, you’ll manage just fine.
Any woman who isn’t pleased with you is insignificant. They can call it “sexist” if they want, but even THAT is insignificant, and it’s a fact that you don’t need her approval for ANYTHING.
Which is more valuable to you?
Her approval so she doesn’t think you’re “sexist”?….
or knowing you never needed her approval at all.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11Like 2017, I am kind to women. I only want to see them held fully accountable for their misdeeds. Things are so out of balance now. They are running the West into the ground. Merkel…cough.cough..
I hold traitor White Knights and Manginas in vastly higher contempt than I do any woman who is tatted up, obese, and run through 3000 c~~~s. Women are what they are so I live with it. They always have been and always will be. White Knights and Manginas are the true enemy of all men and women too. Women desire strong men who do not yield to them. Feminists desiring Muslim c~~~s are living proof.
Call me sexist. NFG….
Some are,some aren’t.
"The secret to happiness is freedom... And the secret to freedom is courage." - Thucydides
I hold traitor White Knights and Manginas in vastly higher contempt
AMEN. If other weak “males” are the real enemy of men, is that still “sexist”? Whoah! Too much for them to compute. Stand back, we don’t know how far their brains will pop.
I only want to see them held fully accountable for their misdeeds.
THEY sure as s~~~ don’t.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.And who cares about forums that think we are sexist?
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I guess the moderator of the forum will join us after his first “bloody” and life-wrecking divorce…
I dont care what the majority thinks about me.
If I would care I certainly wouldnt have said a word to help this poor injured blue piller that opened the thread.I picked up one guy though, who said infront of the others, that I was making total sence and said that you have to study what I was saying and that Im misunderstood here by the most.
He stated that he doesnt know anything about MGTOW, only what he found in youtube just now, and that he isnt fit yet to draw a picutre.The few open minded ones that are interested in figuring out whats going on is what makes want to argue with the namecallers.
If there is one out of thousand that is worthy to be informed, thats way enough for me to not shut up and express myself.
“are mgtows sexist?” LOL. Don’t worry. You’ll be hearing that a lot. Blame and shame isn’t their favorite tactic, it’s pretty much their only card.
Just saying.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
mod who asked me what my stand is about being a sexist as a MGTOW.
Very loaded question. I would have told him –>> it’s not “sexist” if it’s TRUE. Then I would ask if a “sexist” statement like “a man should always pay” qualifies? That would bake his noodle, wouldn’t it? If you say “men are smarter than woman” are you now sexist? And what if it’s true?
TIME® magazine says “men are idiots” according to some study – but are they REALLY? If men are idiots because they take idiotic risks, then women don’t ever get to benefit from those risks. They can cross the country in a buggy instead of an airplane.
http://time.com/3631350/men-are-idiots-new-study-says/You can’t exchange in any kind of sane discourse with these people. They are not after that. They are after snot-nosing others into submission. It’s all designed to get you to chase your own tail and arrive at no resolution.
But what if ( in your MGTOW discussions ) you recommend letting women THINK they are “smarter” than you? That was Hillary’s hubris too. So if you want to have a REAL exchange that leads some kind of outcome worth your time, you ignore them completely.
They aren’t worth bothering with.
You don’t need to broadcast a “MGTOW” stance. It’s best to keep it in your pocket until you really need it. Anything that doesn’t contain female worship is “sexist” and if you adjust your stance accordingly, you’ll manage just fine.
Any woman who isn’t pleased with you is insignificant. They can call it “sexist” if they want, but even THAT is insignificant, and it’s a fact that you don’t need her approval for ANYTHING.
Which is more valuable to you?
Her approval so she doesn’t think you’re “sexist”?….
or knowing you never needed her approval at all.you are absolutely right from a secular point of view.
As much I would like to keep the truth to myself Im forced to win souls for the lord… I do this for myself to not be rejected by Jesus when he says…” What, you knew all this and kept it for yourself…I never knew you bitch…”deadly raver… thanks! thats exactly whats going on.
Where i get this video? it sums it all up.
Feminists said that women cannot be sexist because women as class lacks power to enforce their prejudice.
Since we live in a gynocentric society I answer that MGTOW cannot be sexist because men lacks the power to enforce prejudices within a gynocentric society.
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Well, if you look at the dictionary definition of ‘sexist’, it has a precise definition. Most men and women are ‘sexist’ too:
Definition of sexism. 1 : prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women. 2 : behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex.
Social roles based on sex? Men must ask women out; must plan dates; are expected to make the first move. Are expected to get down on their knee and propose and issue an expensive diamond — is that ‘tradition’ or is it ‘sexist’? Is dating only taller men to meet social roles of a dominant man, sexist, or is it a personal preference? Only dating richer men? Is that not ‘sexist’? Women may say ‘men are pigs’ and elicit chuckles in polite company, but can men say ‘women are bitches’?
Is the word sexist itself, sexist, in that it applies ‘especially : discrimination against women’. Is there a word that applies ‘especially’ to discrimination against men in family courts?
I think you have to make distinctions; AWALT is sexist; ASSPOWALT is not.
The reason I’d argue MOST men and women are ‘sexist’ is most have accepted social roles based on sex; man asks woman out, pays for dinner, buys big ring, woman plays larger role in life of children, man spends more time working, etc. The degree of sexism certainly varies widely.
Women expected to dress up for a date, men expected to spend a wad of cash? How much are these gender roles ‘sexism’, and how much, biology? Am I ‘sexist’ because my sexual preference is for women instead of men and women equally? At some point it is ridiculous.
Anonymous24Feminists are CLEARLY sexist, MGTOW types use stories, life experience, statistics, and facts to push back against sexism and get called sexist.
Yea, that all makes sense.
In the end, I just don’t give a f~~~ what I am called by others for what I say or do.
Like in the words of Col.Jessep from A Few Good Men, but slightly changed: “They can’t handle the truth”.
If there is one out of thousand that is worthy to be informed, thats way enough for me to not shut up and express myself.
Yes, you were right in speaking your opinion. And I would have done the same. Of course, risking a s~~~storm. I was just saying that you shouldn’t care if you or others get banned… Use your time elsewhere and cause them more damage and pain that way.
But it’s perfectly OK to give hints on MGTOW everywhere. Just neutral hints like “There are men who think that…”.
Expressing your knowledge of MGTOW that way doesn’t expose you to the s~~~storm and the men that need help will come looking for us and instantly find what they need.You see that in every “bad press” we get, that the member count goes up.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Everyone is sexist, because double standards are natural. Ex.
Would you want a black belt woman to defend you against an untrained man or a brown belt man defend you against that same untrained man?
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