Any legit celibators here at all?

[RebalancedParticipant 346]

Like Jack Nicholson said in The Departed: ‘I don’t need pussy but I like it’

Used to be pretty much a sex addict before, haven’t had sex in nearly 2 years (have had offers but I declined). Feel much freer in mind and spirit now.

Doesn’t make someone MGTOW whether they do or don’t, sure makes life easier for me though.

I don't need pussy

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

I feel no need to stay celibate. Staying celibate is a stupid f~~~ing thing to do. It makes me more vulnerable to a woman’s manipulation. It clouds my judgement and makes me more agitated and aggressive the longer I go without porn or sex.

I remember moving across state one time and not being able to even use porn for about a week or so because I had no cell phone service. It made me get angry at the littlest of things. I’d throw rage fits over nothing and end up throwing things across the room at times. F~~~ staying celibate. F~~~ avoiding porn/masturbation.

The way I see it, sex, as well as porn, can be a thing used for pleasure, but it can also be a thing used to keep a clear head. It also lets you avoid some of the biggest mistakes PUAs/manginas/white knights make when they pursue sex.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

AnthonyN wrote:

I feel no need to stay celibate. Staying celibate is a stupid f~~~ing thing to do. It makes me more vulnerable to a woman’s manipulation.

It also lets you avoid some of the biggest mistakes PUAs/manginas/white knights make when they pursue sex.

Damn right. Unless you’re a monk celibacy is a stupid thing to do.

Celibacy causes you to emit a “vibration” women sense. Fatties, fuglies, fives, spinsters, c~~~-blockers (And even gays if you wait long enough) and any other women you’d never want to f~~~ charge in for the kill!

The longer a man goes without sex the more he looks like “bargain” or “steal deal” to these women. It’s like shopping. The longer you sit on the rack the more you’re discounted.

They sense it like animals: “He’s not getting laid!!! I can finally get him!!! Throw the pussy at him!!!”

It’s really irritating. That’s why you see all these good looking guys with fat women. I remember this one guy in my building. He was tall, in shape, good looking, church going, engineer and could afford to live here. On paper he could have easily been with an 8 or 9. From what I gleamed he chose religious celibacy. This would have worked easily if we still lived in a 1950’s patriarchy. But in this feminist society he ended up succumbing to a short, frumpy, dumpy, fat, piggy eyed, pan faced, Philippino women with a fat flat ass (you read that right fat and flat), marrying her, and crapping out 2 kids. It was so sad to look it. It was like he was saying: “Nobody else wanted me, at least she did, this was the best I could do”

He walked around all the time, with a resigned, defeatist look, head down, timid, zero social skills, deflated, hiding behind his wife in the elevators, he looked like a beaten dog. I would have to constantly pry at him for conversation to find out if my instincts were correct and see if there was a way to help him but it was too late.

Time for the good news. Anyone who dumps celibacy and gets laid will automatically see an improvement. The celibate will suddenly seem more attractive to women because they claim he’s “confident”. This happened to me after a Sahara long dry spell. Fatties, fuglies, and fives instantly dissipated. Pretty girls perked up. I could feel a “change in the air”. I was the exact same person. Apparently my “confidence” had increased.

Women are followers. They want men other women want regardless of they guys actual value. In a women’s mind Celibate = no other women whats him = he’s not worth anything. Simple.

[guiParticipant 825]

I am going monk for now because I have to focus on studying and getting a good job. But I don’t really see the need to make it such a big deal.

If I get the oportunity to screw a hot chick that meets my standarts I will do so because it’s fun. I just can’t be bothered about pussy for now because I have more important things to take care.

I think that any MGHOW will be fine as long as he doesn’t commit and stay in control of his life. There’s no real MGTOW way.

About masturbation I think it’s a great tool to give you a clear state of mind and when you are thinking with a clear mind it’s really easy to spot women’s traps and turn down their offers.

When a woman that doesn’t meet my standarts throw herself at me I just turn her down. I’ am not an animal so it’s just easy.

Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

Michael wrote:

AnthonyN wrote:

I feel no need to stay celibate. Staying celibate is a stupid f~~~ing thing to do. It makes me more vulnerable to a woman’s manipulation.

It also lets you avoid some of the biggest mistakes PUAs/manginas/white knights make when they pursue sex.

Damn right. Unless you’re a monk celibacy is a stupid thing to do.

Celibacy causes you to emit a “vibration” women sense. Fatties, fuglies, fives, spinsters, c~~~-blockers (And even gays if you wait long enough) and any other women you’d never want to f~~~ charge in for the kill!

The longer a man goes without sex the more he looks like “bargain” or “steal deal” to these women. It’s like shopping. The longer you sit on the rack the more you’re discounted.

They sense it like animals: “He’s not getting laid!!! I can finally get him!!! Throw the pussy at him!!!”

It’s really irritating. That’s why you see all these good looking guys with fat women. I remember this one guy in my building. He was tall, in shape, good looking, church going, engineer and could afford to live here. On paper he could have easily been with an 8 or 9. From what I gleamed he chose religious celibacy. This would have worked easily if we still lived in a 1950’s patriarchy. But in this feminist society he ended up succumbing to a short, frumpy, dumpy, fat, piggy eyed, pan faced, Philippino women with a fat flat ass (you read that right fat and flat), marrying her, and crapping out 2 kids. It was so sad to look it. It was like he was saying: “Nobody else wanted me, at least she did, this was the best I could do”

He walked around all the time, with a resigned, defeatist look, head down, timid, zero social skills, deflated, hiding behind his wife in the elevators, he looked like a beaten dog. I would have to constantly pry at him for conversation to find out if my instincts were correct and see if there was a way to help him but it was too late.

Time for the good news. Anyone who dumps celibacy and gets laid will automatically see an improvement. The celibate will suddenly seem more attractive to women because they claim he’s “confident”. This happened to me after a Sahara long dry spell. Fatties, fuglies, and fives instantly dissipated. Pretty girls perked up. I could feel a “change in the air”. I was the exact same person. Apparently my “confidence” had increased.

Women are followers. They want men other women want regardless of they guys actual value. In a women’s mind Celibate = no other women whats him = he’s not worth anything. Simple.

I’ve seen plenty of men like that here in Las Vegas even. Lots of older men are strapped down to their wives doing their wives bidding like a financial slave in hopes to get more pussy. Their indoctrination of gynocentric bulls~~~ is exceedingly strong.

Many of my younger male friends are becoming like that as well if they already haven’t turned into that. I’m just glad I dodged those bullets at an early age.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

Stargazer wrote:

Russky wrote:

I am bewildered myself how come people calling themselves MGTOW here, come to the boards and post s~~~ like “Yesterday I’ve been on a date with this chick…

So you’re suggesting a man can not be a real MGTOW if he desires sex, dates women and expresses his sexual energies with them?

Let’s be realistic about this, there are nearly as many opinions about what it means to for a man to go his own way as there are men here to have them. I do not accept that indulging in sex with women necessitates that a man is enslaved to women and desire for women but if you feel that way, then so be it.

You go your way and I’ll go mine. If it makes you feel you’re a better MGTOW than I am because you don’t have sex then good for you. While I will continue to disagree with your point of view about the value of sex, I’ll do you the respect of not thinking any less of you because I do it and you don’t.

Exactly. There are a ot of ways to go. I for one believe that nature f~~~ed up in certain physiologica aspects; I wish if only it could have been diffrent. <- That is my view. To many, it is absurd. But that doesn’t make me any less of a MGTOW. You need to see the fact that there aren’t strict rules to follow in order to become one. There have been so many married MGTOWs. Does that mean they are less MGTOW than us? Of course not. The only point that matters is that we share a common view of how things are; how reality is.

There are radical MGTOWs like Mr. Hitman and Mr. KM who shouts “DUMB F~~~ING C~~~S” and “F~~~ off c~~~s!” like typical misogynists; when MGTOW is all about not hating women… but does it make them any less MGTOW? No. Why? Because they have every reason to vent their anger because they have experienced ill-treatment at the hands of this gynocentric society, which we haven’t yet.

I hold a more non-radical .. maybe even a conservative view.. so does a lot of people here but that doesn’t mean we support feminism or don’t believe in the MGTOW philosophy. Its just our take on the matter. Its the same fruit we seek; its just that some choose to climb the tree while others want to cut it down. Am I wrong?

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[Anonymous 3]

Stargazer wrote:

This doesn’t look like a question to me, it looks like a broadside shot at MGTOW.com members who are not celibate and in agreement with your views on sexuality.

I simply fired back.

The difference is, I’m being objective, and you’re arguing from emotions and made a bunch of inaccurate retorts toward a highly twisted version of my post.

Is this what it has come to? Everything has to be MGTOW PC now? Lack of sexual mastery is a correct statement. F~~~ing look around you, if people have to resort to jerking off everyday or getting laid, how is it real control? And no, I’m not saying it’s good or bad, it’s not a criticism, everybody here does their own thing, and I’ll be the first one to say that, but that doesn’t make my statement untrue. Objectively, you can’t tell me otherwise, the prove is in the pudding, or else you’re simply being dishonest, so let’s not.

It’s akin to saying, and I’ll use myself as an example so I don’t accidentally offend some emotionally sensitive bastard, I have a low pain tolerance. I can’t take pain for s~~~, a mosquito bite can probably kill me. Did I make a correct statement or is it a “broadside shot”? What the f~~~ is going on in your head man? Seriously.

Second thing is, I didn’t f~~~ing say you have to be celibate or you ain’t s~~~. I didn’t tell anybody what to do. I’ll say it here again, to everybody reading, I do not tell you what to do. It’s so obvious that you said you what said without even paying real attention to what I said. I hit a nerve. Hell, you even admitted that yourself, that my little sentence about people lacking sexual mastery, which looking at it again, it’s a vague f~~~ing thing to say, but still that’s all it took for you to go?

Dude, I don’t give a f~~~ what you or anybody else does with their dick. Actually yes, go f~~~ yourself. No, in all seriousness, I didn’t fire at you. You fired at me. Reread what I’ve said.

I’m neutral. I’m neither for nor against masturbation. I’m neither for nor against celibacy. I’m neither for nor against sexual intercourse. But god damn, call s~~~ what it is, I’ve said that. If one doesn’t have sexual control, one doesn’t, period. But no, you have to twist my words and try to paint me as a no sex villain here to make everybody chop their pee pee off, pathetic.

Thanks for the welcome back, Keymaster for holding it down, but I’m back to lurk mode for a while. Peace.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m being objective, and you’re arguing from emotions

I have to say this last post looked pretty emotional to me. Lots of expletives and hyperbole… it’s an emotional topic and nobody likes being challenged on their beliefs, I get it.

So let’s dump the hormones here and get down to it. I find the implication that celibacy = sexual mastery to be absurd. Mastery… of what, depriving yourself of sex? Well that’s a simple enough tautology when you look at it by itself, but the inverse implication is that indulging in sex constitutes some lack of mastery. It implies an inability to exercise mental and emotional control… a sort of slavery to biological urges and to the women who can assuage those urges.

Was this not your intention, to state that individuals who practice celibacy are more self-aware and in control of their own minds and lives than those who do not? Was it not your intention to state that engaging in sex makes a man weaker in mind, body and spirit?

If that’s not what you were saying, then I apologize… but that’s certainly how it read to me.

[Anonymous 3]

Stargazer wrote:

Tungus Khan wrote:

I’m being objective, and you’re arguing from emotions

I have to say this last post looked pretty emotional to me. Lots of expletives and hyperbole… it’s an emotional topic and nobody likes being challenged on their beliefs, I get it.

So let’s dump the hormones here and get down to it. I find the implication that celibacy = sexual mastery to be absurd. Mastery… of what, depriving yourself of sex? Well that’s a simple enough tautology when you look at it by itself, but the inverse implication is that indulging in sex constitutes some lack of mastery. It implies a loss of self-control, an inability to cerise mental and emotional control… a sort of slavery to biological urges and to the women who can assuage those urges.

Was this not your intention, to state that individuals who practice celibacy are more self-aware and in control of their own minds and lives than those who do not? Was it not your intention to state that engaging in sex makes a man weaker in mind, body and spirit?

If that’s not what you were saying, then I apologize… but that’s certainly how it read to me.

I intentionally used that language in my last post. It’s way worse than what I used in my OP, I just wanted to show emotional language takes nothing away from the objective substance within.

Let’s not get into the word game. Sexual mastery, mastering sex, controlling sex drive, whatever you call it, it’s just what it is. For example, basketball mastery, does this imply folks who don’t have it are weaker and inferior? You know what the answer is. I’ll be again, the first one to say, I don’t have that. Am I inferior? Am I less self aware because I can’t shoot the hoop? You know the answer, come on.

I’ll say this again clearly. I’m neutral. I’m neither for nor against masturbation. I’m neither for nor against celibacy. I’m neither for nor against sexual intercourse.

None of this takes anything away from what I’ve said. You can call it a hyperbole, satire, exaggeration, humor, the objective truth that the statement was based upon, remains completely true. Can’t control ones sex drive, “oh it’s time to f~~~, I have to do it or else!”, all the same thing. You get what I mean, I don’t have to talk like a robot and be 100% literal.

[narwhalParticipant]

@Tungus you are not objective. When you saying someone is lacking at anything, you are applying a negative connotation. You’re basketball analogy only proves that, as it would be ridiculous to say ‘lacking basketball mastery’ since for the very fact that it has an negative connotation. It’s not a phrase anyone would say, since not being great at basketball is rarely considered negative. However, ‘lacking social skills’, ‘lacking intelligence’, ‘lacking personality’ are all phrases you hear often…and the negative connotation is intended.

I disagree with your premise that MGTOW is about control. It certainly is about not allowing others to control you, but it does not mean you need to have 100% control, no risk, in your life. It does mean that you need to be honest about those risks, IMO. If I engage in sex, I am aware of the risks I’m taking and I accept them.

And the idea that if you have sex, that you cannot control your sexual urges. It is not an addiction by default. It’s like saying it’s impossible to drink alcohol without being an alcoholic. Or I can’t east ice cream without eating the entire tub. That isn’t to say that some can’t control it as sexual addiction is possible, same as alcoholics are possible. At the same time, some may be driven and enjoy life more with an active sex life, while others could take or leave it.

There are plenty on this site who seem to have a good grasp of who they are and what works in their life as far as sex, while others seem to be trying to figure that out. Part of what’s great about this place is the majority of people seem to rather open and honest about where they are, without judging those who are different then them.

Are there guys here that exaggerate and/or rationalize their desire for sex? Probably. There are some that are underselling sex as well. I personally think I have a moderate libido, so those desires are not as strong as many guys here, while taking a vow of celibacy or completely ignoring women would be more challenging for me then some. I’d like to think I have enough ‘mastery’, but I have no doubt that I could do something stupid for a nice pair of t~~~, despite all that I know. The likelihood of that happening has been greatly reduced over the past few years, which for me, means that I can enjoy a nice pair of t~~~ without fear of ruining my life and those I care about.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 3]

narwhal wrote:

@Tungus you are not objective. When you saying someone is lacking at anything, you are applying a negative connotation. You’re basketball analogy only proves that, as it would be ridiculous to say ‘lacking basketball mastery’ since for the very fact that it has an negative connotation. It’s not a phrase anyone would say, since not being great at basketball is rarely considered negative. However, ‘lacking social skills’, ‘lacking intelligence’, ‘lacking personality’ are all phrases you hear often…and the negative connotation is intended.

I disagree with your premise that MGTOW is about control. It certainly is about not allowing others to control you, but it does not mean you need to have 100% control, no risk, in your life. It does mean that you need to be honest about those risks, IMO. If I engage in sex, I am aware of the risks I’m taking and I accept them.

And the idea that if you have sex, that you cannot control your sexual urges. It is not an addiction by default. It’s like saying it’s impossible to drink alcohol without being an alcoholic. Or I can’t east ice cream without eating the entire tub. That isn’t to say that some can’t control it as sexual addiction is possible, same as alcoholics are possible. At the same time, some may be driven and enjoy life more with an active sex life, while others could take or leave it.

There are plenty on this site who seem to have a good grasp of who they are and what works in their life as far as sex, while others seem to be trying to figure that out. Part of what’s great about this place is the majority of people seem to rather open and honest about where they are, without judging those who are different then them.

Are there guys here that exaggerate and/or rationalize their desire for sex? Probably. There are some that are underselling sex as well. I personally think I have a moderate libido, so those desires are not as strong as many guys here, while taking a vow of celibacy or completely ignoring women would be more challenging for me then some. I’d like to think I have enough ‘mastery’, but I have no doubt that I could do something stupid for a nice pair of t~~~, despite all that I know. The likelihood of that happening has been greatly reduced over the past few years, which for me, means that I can enjoy a nice pair of t~~~ without fear of ruining my life and those I care about.

One, if one lacks social skills, one lacks social skills. It’s neither good nor bad. I’ll use myself again as an example, I lack pain tolerance. It’s neither good nor bad. A good situation would be, I get alerted quicker and get to safety because of that. A bad situation would be, I give out easier to pain as opposed to other people, can’t get a tattoo done or something like that. Good or bad is what you make of it. But the statement itself is neither. I’m tired of repeating myself.

I’ll even use a blue pill example so you can understand. If you can’t get laid, then you can’t get laid, it’s neither good nor bad, it’s just what it is. Get it? Come on now. What is this, Youtube comment section? Are we walking on egg shells this badly? God forbid I say something politically in-MGTOW-correct. Can we discuss ANYTHING AT ALL without taking s~~~ personal? Do I have to use “blue pill terminology” and keep everything PC?

Two, how many f~~~ing times are you people going to twist what I say? “I disagree with your premise that MGTOW is about control.” When did I ever say that? When did I ever say MGTOW was about control? Read, man. I didn’t define MGTOW, not now not never. I didn’t say you have to control or else you’re not MGTOW. I didn’t tell you what to do. I didn’t tell anybody what to do. Hell, I specifically said “I DO NOT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO”.

Third, I never said being celibate was better than those who aren’t. Never once did I ever say that. But god damn, once again, if a guy masturbate 20 times a day just so he won’t go crazy, that ain’t control. AGAIN, NOT SAYING IT’S GOOD OR BAD. You do what you gotta do, more power to you. If it works great for you, excellent, but the fact remains, lack of control = lack of control. I call it what it is.

Forth, I do not care about what anybody here does with their junk. I’m not policing anybody. I’m not telling anybody what to do. I make observations and I post them at times, try to get something going. That’s it.

F~~~, seriously, what is going on here? I can’t be the only one who sees this happening.

[narwhalParticipant]

Bulls~~~. Words have connotations and I’d be surprised if you don’t understand that concept. Context matters. You can’t refer to people who regularly masturbate as ‘sex zombies’ and then claim that you are objective.

If you are tired of repeating yourself, then stop repeating yourself.

Two, how many f~~~ing times are you people going to twist what I say? “I disagree with your premise that MGTOW is about control.” When did I ever say that? When did I ever say MGTOW was about control?

You didn’t, but the implication was there.

F~~~, seriously, what is going on here? I can’t be the only one who sees this happening.

And that should be your clue. Perhaps you aren’t coming off as objective as you believe that you are? Is it more likely that several people have poor reading comprehension, or you aren’t coming across as objective?

The way I see it, I’m either misreading the connotation in several of your phrases, the same as many other people do. If that’s the case you can expect everyone else to change or restate yourself with commonly accepted objective terms. Or…You honestly don’t understand connotation, which I find that difficult to believe.

What I do believe is likely is that you came in with an agenda of encouraging celibacy while making non-celibacy has something less….all while trying to play the objective. That’s not an uncommon tactic and easy to spot. And honestly, I don’t have a problem with your agenda, if that’s what it is. I don’t exactly understand why you would have that agenda, and won’t speculate why, and find that a much more interesting topic.

As someone who use to be celibate, I found that it was a convenient defense mechanism to downplay sex. It was easier to tell myself that I wasn’t getting laid out of choice it wasn’t necessity. Those that did have sex were not as good a person as me. The truth was I lacked confidence, and knowledge about women. I lacked experience. I had fear of rejection, what other would think of me, etc. I probably didn’t have the same sex drive that many other guys had, and I didn’t want to admit that. I lied to myself about my reasons. I did have some legit reasons, but it was the lies that were a problem.

In general, I was pretty good about lying to myself as a defense mechanism when I was younger. I am much happier person today. By no means a better person, just happier.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

Anonymous wrote:

Red pill or not, anybody who has spent a reasonable amount of time here, will know what I’m talking about. There’s a trend here: Severe lack of sexual mastery. You run into these posts every single day pretty much. Hell, sex here is more often than not, referred to as a “need”. There are even men who mutilate themselves for sex, aka vasectomy.

I’m just curious, is there anybody here who actually practices true celibacy? No, I’m not talking about taking gallons of estrogen injection until your dick is limp 24/7, nor am I talking about turning your head away from women and focus on something else, nor am I talking about masturbating 10 times a day until you’re completely numb.

I’m talking about having control, discipline, willpower, and maintaining clarity of mind even when say for instance, being groped by attractive females, or when some porn is playing on the screen. Having the ability, of mind over matter, and just choosing ignore it, mastering one’s sex drive. Is there anybody here who does this?

Every turn I take here, I either just run into a post about “I have to get laid”, or “I’m getting a vasectomy so I can f~~~ women and hopefully not get f~~~ed over by them in courts, fingers crossed”, or “Just watch porn and jerk off”, or some other forms of sex zombie stuff, it’s a trend here as I’ve said.

Getting a vasectomy isn’t “mutilating yourself.” It’s also been proven that having sex is a BIOLOGICAL “need” prove otherwise. And just because we have sex doesn’t mean we’re “chasing after anyone.” Like it or not.

Third, I never said being celibate was better than those who aren’t. Never once did I ever say that. But god damn, once again, if a guy masturbate 20 times a day just so he won’t go crazy, that ain’t control.

So what the f~~~ would be your idea of control? Masturbate 3 times a day? What’s the “EXACT” number we have to limit ourselves to be in “control?”

You talk about control, yet, you’ve never defined how to “control” our sex drives. Just because you don’t agree how we “control” our sex drives doesn’t mean we’re not practicing “self control.”

[Anonymous 3]

That’s it. You win. You blew my cover, I’m just a teenage virgin who’s using celibacy as a defensive mechanism to try to bring you guys down.

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s it. You win. You blew my cover, I’m just a teenage virgin who’s using celibacy as a defensive mechanism to try to bring you guys down.

I didn’t say you were, I said that’s who I was. I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish.

BTW, your use of sarcasm removes any doubt I had regarding your understanding of connotation….unless you’re going to tell me you meant every word quoted above exactly as it was written.

Ok. Then do it.

[AnthonyNParticipant 112]

Anonymous wrote:

That’s it. You win. You blew my cover, I’m just a teenage virgin who’s using celibacy as a defensive mechanism to try to bring you guys down.

You talk about putting words into your mouths, you put words into mine. I’m just pointing out you haven’t justified your claims at all.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

Tungus Khan you f~~~ing f~~~~~ c~~~ c~~~ sucking cum guzzling CUCK. You listen and you listen to me GOOD! What the F~~~ do you eat?

Do you shove S~~~ in your mouth or are you a true VEGAN, like ME?!

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 3]

Jackinov wrote:

Tungus Khan you f~~~ing f~~~~~ c~~~ c~~~ sucking cum guzzling CUCK. You listen and you listen to me GOOD! What the F~~~ do you eat?

Do you shove S~~~ in your mouth or are you a true VEGAN, like ME?!

Isn’t s~~~ vegan? Hah

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

JK lol. My point is, here’s all types of “mastery” to be had. Diet mastery, time management mastery, combat mastery, driving mastery, etc.

There’s tons of stuff to go after and master. But for example, sure, you can sink a ball through a from across the court. So? What’s the point?

Our sexual practices, whatever they may be, are not corrosive to us. They aren’t making us irresponsible, they aren’t making us broke, etc.

So what’s the advantages to having this sexual mastery? And I’m not trying to be coy or anything, now I’m actually curious.

Why should I stop masterbating? What will it gain or change? I’m actually pretty much asexual. I’m not doing it because I’m pussy hungry, it’s just like scratching an itch.

Oh and MASTERy? MASTERbate?

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Anonymous 3]

Jackinov wrote:

JK lol. My point is, here’s all types of “mastery” to be had. Diet mastery, time management mastery, combat mastery, driving mastery, etc.

There’s tons of stuff to go after and master. But for example, sure, you can sink a ball through a from across the court. So? What’s the point?

Our sexual practices, whatever they may be, are not corrosive to us. They aren’t making us irresponsible, they aren’t making us broke, etc.

So what’s the advantages to having this sexual mastery? And I’m not trying to be coy or anything, now I’m actually curious.

A painter spends his life putting colored paint onto a canvas. A singer sings his heart out. A writer dedicates everything he has into his works. None of this really has any point to it, you’re right, but that doesn’t mean we should all just throw our hands up and do nothing, nor does it mean that we have to do it.

As I’ve said, good or bad, it’s mostly up to you. I’ll use a cliche example: Nuclear power. You could use it as a mean of destruction, which is conventionally perceived as bad. Or, you could use it as a power source to build and create, which is good. It’s up to you to channel it the way you want.

The way I look at this is, if one has complete mastered control over his sex drive, for one, one wouldn’t have to worry at all about, say getting caught in a bad spot with women. Having a really hot chick walk by and losing it. Knowing in absolute terms that no female charm will work on you, is a quite good thing, I would say. And then you can translate the energy over into whatever you want to accomplish, to further master oneself, train, and do all kinds of things. Am I there yet, absolutely not, I’ll be the first to admit I still have some weaknesses here and there. If you’re interested in more, go look up the monk stuff.

Now on the other hand, a bad celibator, would be one along the lines of TFLer. Somebody who is taking it negatively, who isn’t celibate by choice and control, but is rather forced to due to external circumstances. This is a guy who is one BJ away from falling. This ain’t good.

See, both are basically doing the same thing, but somehow, one is good, and the other is bad. So when it comes down to it, there’s really no good or bad here. If something works for, it works for you.

Same thing with those who engage in sex.

Jackinov wrote:

Why should I stop masterbating? What will it gain or change? I’m actually pretty much asexual. I’m not doing it because I’m pussy hungry, it’s just like scratching an itch.

Oh and MASTERy? MASTERbate?

Again, completely up to you. There are advantages if you stop, and there are advantages if you continue. At the same time, both can be bad, so it’s important for you to decide you’re picking the right choice for yourself.

For example, if you stop it, and you end up going crazy and drooling over every female you see, probably not so good of an idea. Or, if you continue, but you end up looking 2-3 hours at porn, then that’s probably too much time spent “scratching an itch”.

If you want to train your willpower, not doing it is ONE avenue to train. Especially, if your sex drive is really high.

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