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Read – ‘ The Manipulated Man’ by Esther Vilar
Then Read the articles from the PUA community – Rollo is pretty good.
Then read MGTOW articlesBasically in a nutshell it is this:
The human species lived in hunter gatherer tribes for about 2 million years.
For ONLY the last 5000 years we have had agriculture and writing and work specialization and living in cities.
BEFORE that time…men evolved learning how to solve problems in nature in order to hunt well and to defend the tribe against other tribes. Women stayed in the cave, cooked, and gathered fruits, nuts, tubers, etc. and learned how to manipulate men. Both of these things were necessary for survival of the human species.The type of man who was at the apex was a very aggressive psychopathic killer who was also a good hunter; but these were in short supply; instead most were beta males who worked well together as a team on hunts and building things. So women employed a double mating strategy, screw the Alpha male and get pregnant and get his genes; AND fool the Beta male provider into thinking that the child was his. Beta males were more plentiful and had a higher probability of being successful than an Alpha male: since Beta males worked well in teams.
Rule 1) Manipulation depends on DECEPTION. Deception is either an outright or a partial lie or a lie of ommission.
Rule 2) EVERYTHING a woman says…she is normally looking for just the OPPOSITE behavior. What she says is designed to weed out males whose genetic characteristics (ie. Nice Guys) are unsuitable for maximizing the survival characteristics of her future offspring. (ie. a S~~~ Test or a Fitness Test).
Women do NOT have time to get to know a guy; so they subconsciously devise s~~~ tests on the flyIf she says ONE THING….she is looking for the OPPOSITE thing. This weeds out the compliant guys; whose offspring probably wouldn’t be good at fighting other males one on one.
3) Women LIE as naturally as you and I breathe. They do it at the unconscious level and are frequently unaware that they are lying…they sincerely believe their own lies.
Truth is subjective and can change depending upon circumstances that are beneficial to women4) Women stick together and share notes on their men with each other. Women have about as much respect towards men as a farmer does to his plow horse. Women look at a Man’s Utility as Men look at a woman’s physical appearance.
5) a Man’s physical attractiveness in a woman’s eyes can vary depending upon his wealth not to mention his alpha characteristics.
Hello,
a warm welcome to you, Red Pill counselor.
Here you find the truth about women. And nothing but the truth.
If you are looking for more study material, I have decided to put up my life story into my introductory thread here.
Gargamel's 7-part MGTOW story introduction – as a work in progress
It’s more than an hour of reading time by now.
But I am one of those boys and men that got screwed over by women from the day of my birth.
At the end of the day, I can speak about thousands of women crossing my path and all of them were lunatics in some way or another.
Never married, just the thought of it gives me a choking feeling and sends shivers down my spine.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
RPC….
If you learn nothing else learn this. Women do not love YOU! They love how you make them feel, or what you can do for them, but not you.They can rarely ever know objective truth, because everything is subject to their emotional state, even the truth.
Women are not capable of deep logical understanding because they have never needed it beyond it’s use in deception. Their ability to dissimulate is without equal.
Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....
. Most of what I learned in those years was self taught, I would sit in the libraries for hours poring over books and making my own notes often on completely unrelated topics and I would at least always go into more depth than required.
I admire you. Why? Because I could not figure it out and I gave up. To me it was like standing in a warehouse of Ikea furniture in boxes with a 10 foot stack of assembly instructions to my left, and a swiss army knife on the floor to my right.
Kudos
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Anonymous54@rpc. Heres somthing I discoverd back when I still dealt with women.
If you want to get a consise responce to a guestion about her feeeeeelings (puke) try this.
Ask her some math questions.
Then immedeatly ask a question about her feeelings about something. You will get a short consise anwser. Came across this when I went mgtow,but the few times I tried it ,the results were identical.It gets there brain to a male logical place for a few seconds I believe.Some very wise words there from you all, I like the way you put some of that across and I do not disagree with any of it. That’s an introduction and a half ‘Gargamel’ and I promise to read through all of it when I have a bit more time. Yes, I agree with you ‘RealityBites’ that evolutionary theory does explain an awful lot and I remember that the pieces of the puzzle did all start to fit together when I studied this in some depth. David Buss is one of the names that springs to mind – a real pioneer in the field whose work I spent a lot of time with and I do I still have an enormous number of scientific journal articles in pdf format on my hard drive. As far as I could tell evolutionary theory seemed to form the bedrock of a lot of the PUA material, something which I am certainly familiar with but would not waste my time pursuing nowadays. Clearly a lot of what is taught can work very well (on the sort of emotionally damaged women that frequent nightclubs at least) and I have my own experiences that can attest to this, but this sort of ‘success with women’ (as if there could ever really be such a thing) actually only serves to confirm what ‘Smitty’ was saying in his comment. It does seem superficially that a woman can become (temporarily!) addicted to a man who is able to trigger certain emotional states within her, but it is never actually the man himself that they are interested in – only their own feelings which they may put down to chemistry or a spark of attraction. ‘So what is it you like about him specifically?’ can be a surprisingly difficult question for many women to answer. And yes, if they are looking for something longer term then they will have quite the mental check list to determine exactly what this man is going to be in a position to do for them. Be very careful if you are a particularly high status man in her eyes however, you may find that when sleeping with a woman (perhaps after having taken her back to your nice house for some ‘no strings fun’) she will be using every psychological trick in the book to make sure that that a condom does not come between her and her destiny. She will be ‘casing the joint’ as soon as she sets foot through the door and of course, do not be at all shocked if she is already recently pregnant and looking for a more favourable suitor (Bridget Jones anyone?) and I really have seen this happen on a number of occasions. Would you decide to sleep with a burglar if you came downstairs and caught them in the act of stealing your most prized possessions? I doubt it but it seems a bit like that at times and it is hard to relax around women that are constantly weighing you up or trying to deceive and manipulate you all the time. It doesn’t seem worth it to me now at age 37.
On that note ‘The Manipulated Man’ is a very good book, I like it a lot and was shocked at how long ago it had been written when I first stumbled upon it. Then again, Schopenhauer and Nietzsche also had some rather damning things to say about female nature themselves much earlier than this. The MGTOW videos from thinking ape and bar bar made a big impression on me when I first saw their work a couple of years ago – I saw those long compilation videos back then and they fit perfectly with the material I had been studying independently. There are obviously some incredibly intelligent people within this community and I love that as it is always a great pleasure to learn from others. It would not surprise me if it were to be found that the IQ of the majority of MGTOW was much higher than the average. I read ‘The Curse of the High IQ’ not too long ago and perhaps many of us find ourselves in that boat within this sometimes rather wretched society. Thanks also to ‘Chaff/Flare’ for your kind comment and whose analogy summed up the feeling of disorientation incredibly well and certainly raised a smile.
Doc, got a question for you. This medium, it’s really hard to get a “feeling” for someone. No body language or anything.
Recently had a bible guy get on, and only used “leave it to beaver language”. It kind of protects people kind of like makeup. So is there a form of “body language” in text that can pierce through a type robotic expression that leaves little residue of true intention?
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
There are obviously some incredibly intelligent people within this community and I love that as it is always a great pleasure to learn from others. It would not surprise me if it were to be found that the IQ of the majority of MGTOW was much higher than the average. I read ‘The Curse of the High IQ’ not too long ago and perhaps many of us find ourselves in that boat within this sometimes rather wretched society.
Yes, right on. I can attest to that.
MGTOW will have a higher average IQ than the average man. Almost all of us have some kind of education that stands out from the crowd.
And almost everyone I’ve seen participating in this forum has an above average income, at least before he got screwed over by some woman.
My story is a little bit harder. Women even hated me for being a smart-ass toddler, that would do things, many adults can’t do. They tried to “bend me, shape me, break me” with a sledgehammer to make me a conformist. They stopped at nothing to turn me into an obedient dog and to rid me of all of my fields of knowledge.
I literally had hundreds of women in an entire village and all of the teachers picking on me because I had capabilities they couldn’t understand.
The astonishing thing about this is, that I was a quiet, tall and “pretty” child, that would even join in the “high-sociecty” without getting picked on. These women tried to destroy a child that would be the dream of a father.
Today, women give it to me in writing, that I am “too smart for them” and that they feel intimidated in my presence. That it makes them problems of not finding anything to bitch about…
…“I feel useless when I’m around you”.What happened to me is “terrible advertising” for the true nature of women. That’s why I go into the most intricate detail. Making women run out of arguments is another one of my traits that they hate.
So if anyone would question to authenticity of my story, I can go into deeper detail if required. Even if it was 40 years ago.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
There are obviously some incredibly intelligent people within this community and I love that as it is always a great pleasure to learn from others. It would not surprise me if it were to be found that the IQ of the majority of MGTOW was much higher than the average. I read ‘The Curse of the High IQ’ not too long ago and perhaps many of us find ourselves in that boat within this sometimes rather wretched society.
Yes, right on. I can attest to that.
MGTOW will have a higher average IQ than the average man. Almost all of us have some kind of education that stands out from the crowd.
And almost everyone I’ve seen participating in this forum has an above average income, at least before he got screwed over by some woman.
My story is a little bit harder. Women even hated me for being a smart-ass toddler, that would do things, many adults can’t do. They tried to “bend me, shape me, break me” with a sledgehammer to make me a conformist. They stopped at nothing to turn me into an obedient dog and to rid me of all of my fields of knowledge.
I literally had hundreds of women in an entire village and all of the teachers picking on me because I had capabilities they couldn’t understand.
The astonishing thing about this is, that I was a quiet, tall and “pretty” child, that would even join in the “high-sociecty” without getting picked on. These women tried to destroy a child that would be the dream of a father.
Today, women give it to me in writing, that I am “too smart for them” and that they feel intimidated in my presence. That it makes them problems of not finding anything to bitch about…
…“I feel useless when I’m around you”.What happened to me is “terrible advertising” for the true nature of women. That’s why I go into the most intricate detail. Making women run out of arguments is another one of my traits that they hate.
So if anyone would question to authenticity of my story, I can go into deeper detail if required. Even if it was 40 years ago.
Did you bang Smurfett?
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Did you bang Smurfett?
No, but she was after me.
My “Smurfette” was a Bosnian gold digger working at a local restaurant, wanting to marry me for the permanent residence and a German passport. At least she was honest about it. And she offered me money, but I didn’t need it.
10kE, for being trapped in a sexless marriage…?
But I banged Sassette… (She really looked like that and had a smurfy voice)
She was the one with the dog in the bedroom all the time… (Some other posting of mine)
I was actually called Gargamel in real life, although I am the exact opposite.
Now it makes me break out in tears of joy, thinking about that “the Smurfs” were in fact a perfect MGTOW community:
I just thought about that:
Gargamel must have known a lot about women, because he constructed the first “black-haired” Smurfette to undermine and eventually destroy the perfectly functioning male community…
He then sent her in to “Smurf village” to destroy the smurfs by getting men to compete for her vagina. And declaring war on each other, thus splitting up the community.
And then, Papa Smurf was around, again knowing all about women. He turned Smurfette into a “blonde haired” unicorn to save his tribe. That is why Smurfette has all male traits and gets along very well in this all male community.
In 1981 the feminists hated this whole thing. Maybe, because it showed to kids that men will get along well without women in between.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Thanks man, that was funny. I’m going to bed.
Peace my brotha
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Yes, it’s true that you lose all of the the non verbals when utilising a text based form of communication and that can be crucially important. We’ve all heard the famous percentage breakdown that communication is 55% body language, 38% tone of voice and only 7% what you actually say. This is plenty of debate about whether or not that is actually the case, but it is always worth bearing in mind when attempting to interpret a wall of text. I’m not aware of any specific technique for such interpretation I’m afraid. Perhaps this small article might throw a little light on it of at least provide the basis of further study through the references.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beyond-words/201109/is-nonverbal-communication-numbers-game
I suddenly feel like watching a few episodes of the Smurfs after that description! I remember this video game from 20 years ago or so, ah how the life of a SGTOW seems so much simpler.
It is in one of the first TV episodes that were aired around 1981 / 1982…
http://smurfs.wikia.com/wiki/The_Smurfette_(episode)
Those were the best anyway. The later episodes were king of boring and in 1989 they ran out of ideas.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Smurfs
https://www.smurf.com/en/discover/smurfs/
Quote:
“Smurfette was originally created by Gargamel, but Papa Smurf transformed her into the wonderful Smurf that she is today. With her beautiful blond hair and big eyes, she has broken the hearts of all the Smurfs.”… And I like that Gargamel doesn’t give a s~~~ about her complaining and always puts her in a cage, no matter what she says…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
RPC, I don’t buy your s~~~. Just getting it on record. MGTOW would trigger your inner man to come out in your writing. You are a girl. But that’s all I have to say.
Keep it up, maybe you will learn something.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
Anonymous5Hey welcome,
I can’t say how much of an honor it is have a dude like yourself here.
Right on.
Hello and pleasure to have someone like you on board. I’m studying undergraduate psychology 2nd semester and my dream is to get a PhD in Social Psychology.
We need men like you here who can give a calculated insight on the various topics discussed here.
Welcome to mgtow.com.
A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.
Having a professional voice is rather useful to this site welcome.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
Thank you very much for your kind words everyone. I think it’s fair to say that there are many of you here that could be considered real experts within this field, especially since real world practical experience often means at least as much as the theoretical in this area, so I look forward to learning a great deal from all of you.
. According to so many well meaning people around me offering advice, there was still hope as one day I would meet that truly special girl who would honour and respect me and my life would be complete once again. Love would apparently conquer all
That strikes me as the biggest lie society throws at us. I call it the Jerry Maquire Myth.
To be completed it is implied you are incomplete. This is never the case. All Men are complete as is.“”The game never ends when your whole world depends on the turn of a friendly card”- Allen Parsons
Welcome Brother
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
I had to know the truth about these mysterious creatures and threw myself into the study of human nature, completing a masters degree in Social Psychology whilst I focused strongly on evolutionary theory to find my answers.
I wondered if perhaps I was just looking for good women in all the wrong places, what else would explain the fact that none of these women ever have any real substance to them?
I don’t think it really is a matter of looking in all the wrong places for answers or the right partner, sounds more like simply asking the right questions and getting the wrong answers.
Anyhow, Welcome! So glad to have you!
Funny, isn't it? How women thrive on a mans time, attention and resources, while simultaneously telling him he isn't enough...
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