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[Gravel PitParticipant]

Humongous, Go find and bully the real “so-called incels” … TRUE FORCED LONLINESS idiots on Youtube. Here is a couple links, have at it!

If you had ever bothered to actually be a member here, we have spoken AT LENGTH many times about the label incel. You demonstrate your total ignorance on the topic CONSTANTLY, which is an embarrassment to you. Maybe you should use the search engine on the right side of the screen and look up what we have said about ‘incel’ here … and spend more time READING and getting to know people here, rather than just being a fvcking troll (to even use the term incel, in the way that you are, is actually SJW to the core… YOU ARE ACTUALLY DOING SJW BULLSH!T WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING)

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[Gravel PitParticipant]

There are no incels, its a bait and switch propagandic term meant to deflect blame from women primarily, and to cause in-fighting and resignation by confused males.

Try to understand the term, Involuntarily Celibate. So let me ask, Who exactly is the opposite of an ‘incel’ — a Voluntarily Noncelibate? That would be, presumably, men who have sex at their fingertips. But the world doesnt work like that, does it! You either flat out pay for sex, or you talk your way into it. Even a Chad or Alpha has to establish a comfort zone so that SHE will open the gates. (men dont choose when sex occurs, women do) In reality, according to these assinine terms made up by women, anyone who isnt an “Incel” is therefore by definition a rapist, a Voluntary Noncelibate.

But thats just it, isnt it? All men are either Incels or Rapists right? According to Femlogic, yes…

Even when you grant that Incel is the Male version of a Nawalt (that tiny fraction of a percent that barely registers on a chart) … you’re still left with a dubious proposition at best, here is why.

The real debunker for the term incel is Briffault’s Law.

Where the female can derive no benefit from association with a male, no such association takes place.

How crystal clear is that? What does that say about women? How does the label ‘incel’ apply at all to men? Incel is a non-sequitur.

So naturally, if there is an abundance of men who are not receiving sex, this is due, for no other reason, than women do not receive a benefit from giving them sex. So either they are getting their benefits somewhere else or women’s Sexual Marketplace Value is in a Bubble!

The hidden truth is that Box is in a Bear Market. The value of the average clam has tanked HARD in the last 20 years. The big lie is that a Relationsh!t with a woman is worth something in a man’s life: comfort, affection, company, sex, fatherhood, status… The reality is that these women have had 50 other men inside them after over a decade surfing dating apps and now they are out to nail down a Beta Provider cuck because they cant compete with younger women anymore… Leftovers for Dinner Everyone!

Women’s green-lit promiscuity and Dating Apps have RUINED far more than the birthrate.

Contrary to what the Mainstream tells you, there arent millions of boys and men crying in their pillow each night wishing for a woman. Yes, we’d love some sex finally… but the truth is, most men are either ignoring it and getting on with their lives, or flat out angry over the detestable character of women these days. They arent even worth the sex because most of them are so insanely pretentious, phone addicted, obese, drug addled and insolvent, that a Rub Out in the bathroom is the obvious better alternative! As Sidecar keeps saying about it all, NOT OUR PROBLEM. Women are not our problem. The insane bullying terms they come up with that dont make sense are NOT OUR PROBLEM. Their track-record for philandering Gigoloes on Tender instead of being honorable to a husband, is not our problem.

The VERY FEW morons on Youtube that are trying to self-label as TFA or Incel are nincumpoops with Neural Problems. Some of them are also closet bi-sexuals so its no wonder they cant attract a female, theyre half gay or something… Indeed, male roles have been under attack by Misandric teachers and single mothers that many boys act like girls. So its no wonder they have sex issues. NOT OUR PROBLEM… (thanks Sidecar for Iam borrowing your slogan)

When you rightly point out that men claiming to be Incels are actually “Special Needs,” is the term INCEL really appropriate?! Leave it to women to make fun of the handicapped! When women cant win against Men, they pick on the weak instead…

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I clicked your 1+ but I don’t like this guy’s open letter much… in the spirit of GYOW right?! LOL

I agree with this writer’s friendly attitude. MRAs or Tradcons are great. I hope they win. In fact, I have said this a lot lately, I’m open to the idea of a relationship, cohabitating, marriage, kids etc… but I’ve put forth a case for why women do not try to have serious relationships anymore. We’re passed the days of the early 2010’s, it’s much worse now.

I WILL NOT CHASE WOMEN so I’m automatically left in a state of inactivity & celibacy. I have been “celibate” for 6 years now. I refuse to ask women out. I refuse to set up an internet dating profile. At 32 years old, it is NOT my responsibility to engage women. I tried tirelessly in my 20s. Those days are gone. Those years were mostly sexless too and I was alone. Where I tried to be proactive about women, I was rudely rejected. Where I was successful in procuring a relationship, I was soon sabotaged by her. I actually dated a single mom. I was not picky. But irregardless, I was treated VERY badly. So I’m done looking. In the age of female empowerment 2019, women need to be courageous and attempt to pick me up… funny right? We know that won’t happen. It used to be, a man made good money, so he would go find a woman to spoil her with that money and have a family. Now in 2019, women make really good money, but they don’t go try to find a husband to spoil him with it (equality right? why aren’t women acting like men now that we’re equal?). Instead, women spend all that money on themselves instead of starting families, the birthrate reflects this.

So when it comes to MRAs and Tradcons, I love them and hope they win. That said, you won’t see me picketing or believing for one second that laws will change, they wont. But as I stated above, we’re passed that now… the laws don’t even matter because women aren’t even getting married or having kids anymore. Its much worse than that now, much worse.

So where do I disagree with the writer?

Let me use his quote:

RealityBites wrote:

pussy pedestalization. To make penetrating a hole the goal of your life….

Oh brother, it’s MUCH worse than that. PUAs (where they actually exist, the term is mostly bunk in my view because real PUAs, who are actually VERY few in number, wholeheartedly deny such a belittling title and the people foolishly adopting the title aren’t Pick Up Artists at all, just undersexed, inexperienced adolescents who are trying to find a prom date. Men just don’t act like this, not in a serious way. Where did these dumbass labels like PUA come from anyway, mTV music videos in 1998? LOL. I digress, real PUAs have never even heard of ‘game,’ real PUAs, the ones getting more poon than a rabbit, are your run-of-the-mill Chads, Tyrones and Joses — sometimes they’re just jockish, GED holding low-lifes who defy the rules of the universe in regards to what women want… no one understands why Susan ruins her marriage by sleeping with the pool guy.

Other times, Chad is a lucky rich guy with tons of disposable income and a decent mug. The point of all this is, no amount of ‘game’ exists in this world. You’re either born with Chad Thunderc~~~’s personality, genes and money or you’re not. The so-called “Pick Up Artists” are little more than delusional 13 year olds (or having the maturity of one) who foolishly believe there is some string of words you can employ that removes panties, or that there is some set routine that ‘if you do this, you will get pussy.’ It’s a delusion. The term PUA is a joke… Oh, they exist, they’re just a bunch of dumbasses that get laid about as much as a mgtow MONK, which is near never.

PUAs are the ones fueling the infamous c~~~-carousel too. They are the ones putting c~~~-count on young women. They are the ones writing the statistics of failed marriage, divorce, abortions… They care nothing for the macro picture, but only for their temporary pleasure, the rest of us be damned. They are the ones who are as bad as feminists, dont ever forget that. They are NOT INVITED into this space at all if you ask me. SCREW THEM. I hate philanderers.

And finally, INCEL … the most bogus of all the labels. It shouldn’t even be a label, don’t use that term. The mere mention of it is invigorating to me. To even utter that term is to wrongfully shame men. Its like coming on here and saying “Man Up”

So what did Stardusk say?

RealityBites wrote:

it is impossible to relate to a situation you have not experienced but it is possible to understand it.

I hope I understand you right. But let me just say, Stardusk is wrong! (I get what he means but he still has not debunked INCEL and until he does, I unsubbed and will never donate to him again). I understand what they’re implying with regards to INCEL and it’s bunk. Just like with PUA, we have a bunch of uneducated twits self-identifying as something they know nothing about. They don’t understand anything about the whole picture. They dont understand their own sexuality, or women’s. They don’t understand the social-psychology behind a term like INCEL. They certainly do not understand things like Sexual Marketplace Value or feminism or hypergamy. All of the little boys (and wretched, stupid adult men) who use the term INCEL… all they understand is that they feel horny but there is no sex on offer.

INCEL: (involuntarily celibate) is a SHAMING term invented by a woman to deflect blame onto men for the continuously depreciated SMV of women. You see, women love having that implied, artificial, high-up sexual marketplace value. They love when society tells people that women are worth alot. That you need to spend money and effort to catch one. That you need to shower her with affection, consideration, gifts, attention and more. Indeed, society’s message is that you are not worthy of her. Just look at Kay Jeweler’s advert “You’re not marrying her, you’re marrying her whole world.” You’re not even better than her bastard child. You need to ask her bastard for permission to get her pussy. You have the low honor to ask for a woman’s sex, and only IF she deems you suitable, will you be granted access occasionally. NEVER QUESTION HER OWN QUALIFICATIONS. She is beyond that. You see, her SMV is beyond reach… OR SO THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE THAT LIE.

The real truth is that modern women have reached a new low, lower than their 1990s whorish 2nd wave feminists. Their SMV has been in a critical decline for decades. A woman’s company, the sex she gives, and the benefit she adds to a man’s life is now sooo worthless and undesirable, that such as thing as MGTOW (which is unnatural and shouldnt even exist) has become a real life thing. Men have such low standards and are so sexually driven, it’s unthinkable that a phenomenon like MGTOW MONK should ever exist, but it does!

You see, its a giant see-saw… women’s SMV is painted as this high up value… to keep it up there, men’s SMV has to be kept low. What better way to excuse the priced-out-of-market women’s SMV, than to crush men’s SMV by implying that there are hordes of men who are ugly, immature, unmarriageable, unlayable, perverted, misogynist and more… Do incels really exist? Or is it that women are on mass, more delusional than ever about the standard of men they deserve? Women are made to believe they deserve some standard of men that simply don’t exist in that quantity. So to hide their grandiose expectations, they paint half of men as slobs who are not even worthy of causal sex!

If you are an ugly, confused man. Or even a disabled guy. Do not be confused any longer. And definitely dont self-label as such a shameful term. It is NOT your fault. Nor are you involuntary about anything… you are not celibate. WOMEN are all brainwashed assholes. They are the problem. Nothing has changed with us for centuries. We’re all still a bunch of romantic young guys who would love to love a woman, even when times are tough, we settle for fatties and single moms. But now, women have reached a new low. They are the ones who are delusional about their sexual-worth, not us. We’re the same great men that have always been on offer.

Greetings Miggies , I am from Lebanon. And I am not exactly a MGTOW but more like forced. I am more of a True Forced Loneliness . I have been late diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome which explains my constant rejection from women. I was bullied throughout most of my school life since Kindergarten till 10th grade. I am now 23 years old.
In 2011, I started binge watching South Park, and it planted seeds of doubt about Islam, it made feel that something isn’t right about the religion. And in early 2012 I left Islam to be atheism, and my views became more left leaning. I supported a woman’s right to choose, opposed honor killings, pro-healthcare , gay marriage.

In 2014 I stumbled uppon TheAmazingAtheist’s video on “The Failure of Feminism” he planted seeds of doubt in my head, as a matter of fact I got into PC gaming and was aware of Anita Sarkeesian’s scandal and the gamer gate controversy, but didn’t care much.

In Summer 2015, the garbage crisis began after the main landfill had overflown , so there was garbage everywhere and the streets smelled like a rotting corpse coupled with a 38 to 41 C heat intensifying the smell, as well as a significant increase of electrical black outs ( on normal days it was 3 hours/day) but in summer it was going up to 18 hours/day. One day I was scrolling through facebook and I found an protest against the garbage and electricity crises organized by “You Stink”. I joined the movement, I invested a lot of time and energy in this cause as well as befriending the activists and organizers. Nearly all of the activists are feminists & manginas. And thanks to them as well as my college professor and a communist acquaintance I became a manigna. I met a girl from the movement who became my oneitis and a feminist too I will call her “S”.

By Fall Semester 2016 I registered for an ” Introduction to Human Rights” class, I thought it was going to be about as the tittle says. But this class was merged with gender studies, 95% of the material discussed in the class was about women and female empowerment and the rest was about basic human rights but from a Marxist perspective and the class was 90% female and 2 guys including me, FYI I was probably the most vocal student in class even much more than the girls ( the majority of the girls were average looking) one of them was a Stacy also on instagram-thot, she doesn’t use the label feminist but agrees with the core beliefs. During this semester. I wanted to get laid and I was a mangina/simp so I can stick my dick in wet holes, but my main weakness was “S”. I craved this girl’s validation and attention and oneitis was much more severe. One time I wanted to get a one night stand, and I randomly bumped into an old friend who is a Chad, I asked him I wanna get laid, and he gave me typical PUA bulls~~~ ” Lift Bra” “get rid of that belly” “get hair cut”. I tried it, nothing worked.
I did get p~~~ed off, next week I met “S” again and she hugged me I felt more confident and happier, little did I know that she was playing f~~~in bulls~~~ mind games. After Trump won the campaign I was actually happy that he did and not Clinton, because I believed that Trump is not working for Soros and The Rothschilds. I met a guy from the movement who happens to know “S”, he kept teasing me that how I am a kissless virgin, this made me furious.

In early December 2016, I noticed SJWs and became aware that I was an SJW and TheAmazingAtheist helped me open my eyes when I re-watched his “Failure of Feminism” video, I was a subscriber to r/socialism and made a post on Men’s issue and and how radfems ( feminazis) are contributing to the problem, I got banned from that sub and gave me no reason. I did label my self as a feminist because of the middle east and did disdain western feminists. I was invited to an activist’s from “You Stink!” birthday party all the guests were from the movement except his cousin , anyway we were playing truth or dare and the bottled pointed at me so I chose truth one of the girls asked me if I have ever made out with girl the others joined in and asked me in a shaming and condescending pitiful way if I am a virgin, this infuriated me and made me boil with rage, but it made one step closer to the red pill. On one hand I dropped the communist label as well thanks to Peter Schiff when he debated with Occupy protesters. On the other hand I started binge watching more videos from the Skeptic Community and through this I discovered Paleocons and the Alt-Lite, I did agree with the basic things they had to say. But they only exposed feminism and SJWs , not female nature well yes but glimpses. At the same time, I became more vocal about Men’s Rights as well as attempting to reason with feminists , the straw that broke the camel’s back when on women’s day a group of feminists that the cops and judges should take the woman’s word if she says that she was raped even without any evidence because rape victims are unopen and fear reporting the crime, one thot told me and the crowd that she met a guy who first time complimented her, the second encounter she had with him he groped her and pushed her attempting to rape her I did feel bad for her but , I felt something wasn’t right about this girl why didn’t she call the cops , and she wanted to write a message to her rapist on facebook but her parents advised her not to keep a low profile. One time “S” posted a meme on facebook that a hero is not one without her and I commented ” A man doesn’t need a woman to be hero” she got triggered and deleted my comment . I stopped debating feminists. I thought about PUA, and read “The Game” by Neil Strauss AKA Style, I tried using his techniques nothing worked. I was aware of the MGTOW idea but I was ignorant and thought that they were losers.

A year ago my best friend discovered that his gf ( now ex) is a whore and was cheating on and used him for his money I got very angry and posted a status on facebook that most women are evil and cannot be trusted. On that day “S” saw the status and unfriended me ,and I fell in depression as well as discovering r/incels , moreover I did consider MGTOW.
I met that Chad friend of mine again and I told him my problem and he told to practice PUA harder and to get rid of oneitis I have f~~~ 10 other women. And to do what I do while I stop giving a crap about what others think. I met a guy and his gf, he has seen my posts about feminism and female nature, his gf used shaming tactics in a nice way especially ” You haven’t met the right girl yet” This pushed me more to MGTOW
I started to read more about MGTOW concepts, through TFM, Sandamn , Big John, Red Pill Philosophy, and many more it made me way more furious and I got much louder and way more vocal on facebook I swallowed the red pill. I posted a joke ” why women have boobs so you got something to look at while you’re talking to them ” I get threatened by a bully white knight mangina Chad from the movement that if I ever do something like this he would break my legs landing me in the ICU every chick including “S” get the tingles from him in her ovaries. I hate this piece of s~~~.

I shutdown facebook as other fellow MGTOWs told me to as well as other social media platforms. I felt liberated, and slowly overtime “S” started to fade away. I was vocal about MGTOW in college but it attracted negative attention, I met some geeks and one time their leaders who are gay but think and act like wymyn wanted me to get a gf and I told them that I am going my own way they resorted to shaming tactics and made me a tinder profile they kept swiping with me and I got nothing and they gave me blue pill bulls~~~ advice that I should be myself and not say misogynistic things because it is unattractive to women. I did not listen. A bunch of cucks. I never used my tinder account because I did a cost-benefit analysis , recently deleted it. I also discovered faceandlms and hes showed me that Looks Money and Status are the most important to attracting women, and looks are what make a man attractive to women

My siblings when they got married became SIMPS after they got married my elder brother has a 7 figure salary but he spends a lot of useless s~~~ and doesn’t have much disposable income. My middle older brother has become a simp too, and his wife has mommy issues and her dad is the biggest cuck who remarried at age 70 after her mom died and his new wife is pregnant with the anchor baby so she can trap him and take away his resources his new wife had her ex divorce her and left behind her kids.This reinforces my beliefs about female nature. My brother’s wife has used shaming tactics because I do not believe in marriage and think it is slavery she said ” You don’t wanna be responsible” , I responded ” I have the choice to be a slave or not” , she also told me that my brother used to think this way but he grew out of it and that I am still young. She spent around 50 grand on their wedding but my brother has to pay mortgage fees for there house.

I am 23 years old and an inrovert I have a few very close friends who understand me and have similar values, I am better off being a lone wolf, as I can’t stand most people tried to fit in with groups but no one understands, and because I was burned during my childhood and adolescence as well as being bullied I have became bitter, cynical , dead inside , jaded, and misanthropic. But at the same time I feel liberated.

I have decided to stop discussing MGTOW philosphy except for my closest friends who are red pill or atleast borderline red pill. I rarely talk to people as I do not trust any one and if someone is extra nice to me I treat them with extreme prejudice and suspicion becoming cynical. I only talk to people out of necessity , if an acquaintance says hi I will reply hi as well. If necessary I try to blend in so I don’t attarct a lot of attention and be a ghost. Now Shaming tactics do not work on me I decode them instead of debunk them infact I feed of shaming tactics. If I ever get a crush on a woman I do my best to resist and know that my brain is telling to reproduce with this girl and start a family with her because she has good genes and fertile. As Rick Sanchez said “Listen Morty, I hate to break it to you, but what people calls “love” is just a chemical reaction that compels animals to breed. It hits hard, Morty, then it slowly fades, leaving you stranded in a failing marriage. I did it. Your parents are gonna do it. Break the cycle, Morty. Rise above. Focus on science.”

PS : Excuse my English , because it is my 2nd language.
Thank You In Advance.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

We’ve already debunked INCEL for the feminist propaganda that it is over and over. And I will continue to do it if people start new thread about “INCELS (a fake term).

Anyone continuing to use this term is going get a ration of s~~~ from me. I will consider them women trolling this website.

Most men will at least try to understand and read the threads.

There are no “INCELS (a fake term). There are only normal boys and men, many of which will become MGTOW once they find out about women and their bulls~~~.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

gui wrote:

Sorry for the wall of text

No worries, I read what you’re saying and I think you understand.

Every time, we even use the term, or allow it to be used without taking the time to debunk it, we let women and simps win.

Women are a disaster right now, worse than ever, and concepts like “incel” are a way to hide women’s over-inflated Sexual Marketplace Value. They want to deflect accountability onto men.

[Mango IngawayParticipant]

simplysam wrote:

a person can no longer express his opinions without having to face dire consequences.

Unless they spew sjw nonsense, even though everything they say can be debunked by anyone with 5 working braincells.

Feelings are more important than facts nowadays, enjoy the decline…

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.