IN Defense of Incels

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  • #812370
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    Hermit
    Hermit
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    I have no criticism for incels at all. I grew up being a shy teenager and it was hard for me to talk to girls. I desperately wanted a girlfriend, though. When it comes to dating, men have to be brave enough to put forth the effort to introduce themselves to women and start a conversation. For shy guys, this is easier said than done.

    Yep, same here. Being a shy inexperienced teenager is the s~~~s.

    It’s funny how your mindset can change what you perceive as such a big problem into something that doesn’t even matter at all. Back in my shy days, I would’ve given anything to be with a hot girl. Now, after having more sexual encounters than I can remember, and now that I know what females really are, I don’t give a f~~~ about those bitches and am very happy without having to deal with them and their stupid s~~~. Now their pussies just seem like slimy, nasty things to avoid. Sure I’m still attracted to women and wouldn’t pass up a blow job, but it’s something I put less and less effort into because their emotional s~~~ makes it not worth it.

    Remembering back to my youth, I don’t believe it’s possible to help an incel. Their hormones are so strong and raging, yet their minds are so immature and inexperienced, there’s just no reasoning with them, or convincing them of anything. At that age, really, the only thing that ever helped me was getting laid and the more it occurred, the more confident and relaxed I became.

    Sure I still crave sexual contact and I know how to get it, but f~~~ that, because I would have to spend time with a woman and that s~~~ can be very annoying, unless she’s just a good ol’ whore.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #812372
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    BACK UP THE FREAKING BUS FOLKS.

    Are we not living in the sluttiest times on Earth? Where girls of any age rack up numbers of sexual partners in the dozens and hundreds by the age of 30?

    INCEL, once again, is a fake term invented by morons and is used to shame men into thinking that sex is a prize. Sex isn’t a prize. It’s a worm ridden low hanging fruit you can pick up at any local drinking hole but that doesn’t stop women from pretending it’s a golden goose and try and psych you into chasing it.

    INCEL is an illusion that pussy-beggars fail prey to by female design. “Oh man, all these women have such high standards, I cant attract them…woe is me… I need XYZ material gains to impress her into sleeping with me.. sadness in my heart, guess Ill just stay home and wimper about it.” <- LMAO, there are fugly fat 40 year old women EVERYWHERE who would love to have a relationship with you. Hell, even fugly fat 25 year old women, same thing.

    This “INCEL” bulls~~~ needs to END, NOW!!!! There is nothing involuntary or celibate about it. I don’t care if you have face warts and paralyzed below the waist, you can get laid by today’s desperate women, not whores either…just regular old lonely fatties. These sad little victim card guys who claim to be ‘incel’ are about as involuntarily celibate as they are involuntarily not studying for a degree or not doing house maintenance. Since when did low self-esteem and laziness equate to literally being unable to do something?

    Next, it’s a total misuse of the word to use celibacy in their regard. These blue pill little horndogs are about as celibate as Bill Clinton! They’re one blow job away from matrimony.

    Do not give these f~~~ers ANY slack at all. Do not encourage malingering. They need to s~~~ or get off the pot. Get some ass or go MGTOW, that’s it. Incel is a shaming label which is used like new varnish on a rotted out wood table. Women’s Sexual Marketplace Value has PLUMMETED (though they act like they’re royalty still). They throw around the term incel to try to get men to beg for pussy and for those men to “believe” they can’t get it.

    I have news for you, there are no INCELs. Stop using the term, s~~~ can it. There are no incels, only low self esteem morons and headcases who are malingering little violent f~~~ing kids…. Its a trap!

    #812376
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    Hermit
    Hermit
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    BACK UP THE FREAKING BUS FOLKS.

    Are we not living in the sluttiest times on Earth? Where girls of any age rack up numbers of sexual partners in the dozens and hundreds by the age of 30?

    INCEL, once again, is a fake term invented by morons and is used to shame men into thinking that sex is a prize. Sex isn’t a prize. It’s a worm ridden low hanging fruit you can pick up at any local drinking hole but that doesn’t stop women from pretending it’s a golden goose and try and psych you into chasing it.

    INCEL is an illusion that pussy-beggars fail prey to by female design. “Oh man, all these women have such high standards, I cant attract them…woe is me… I need XYZ material gains to impress her into sleeping with me.. sadness in my heart, guess Ill just stay home and wimper about it.” <- LMAO, there are fugly fat 40 year old women EVERYWHERE who would love to have a relationship with you. Hell, even fugly fat 25 year old women, same thing.

    This “INCEL” bulls~~~ needs to END, NOW!!!! There is nothing involuntary or celibate about it. I don’t care if you have face warts and paralyzed below the waist, you can get laid by today’s desperate women, not whores either…just regular old lonely fatties. These sad little victim card guys who claim to be ‘incel’ are about as involuntarily celibate as they are involuntarily studying for a degree or doing house maintenance. Since when did low self-esteem and laziness equate to literally being unable to do something?

    Next, it’s a total misuse of the word to use celibacy in their regard. These blue pill little horndogs are about as celibate as Bill Clinton! They’re one blow job away from matrimony.

    Do not give these f~~~ers ANY slack at all. Do not encourage malingering. They need to s~~~ or get off the pot. Get some ass or go MGTOW, that’s it. Incel is a shaming label which is used like new varnish on a rotted out wood table. Women’s Sexual Marketplace Value has PLUMMETED (though they act like they’re royalty still). They throw around the term incel into getting men to beg for pussy and “believe” they can’t get some.

    I have news for you, there are no INCELs. Stop using the term, s~~~ can it. There are only low self esteem morons and headcases who are malingering little violent f~~~ing kids…. Its a trap!

    Either you have forgotten what it was like being an inexperienced teenager, or you never experienced those awkward years and were one of those guys who always had plenty of hot ass thrown his way.

    As desperate as I was back then, I still didn’t want the nasty fat ass bitches. In fact, those dudes who would take those kind of gals were then looked down upon by the hot ones. When you’re that young and immature, your mind is all f~~~ed up and nothing makes sense and you don’t have a clue what you’re supposed to do. I, nor anyone else I ever knew, considered murdering innocent people because of this, so I’m not sticking up for those f~~~ heads. I’m just saying it’s hard for young people to grow up sometimes.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #812382
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    Involuntary celibate, someone who wants a relationship but for whatever reason is unable to find a suitable partner.

    My question is, how does “unable to find suitable partner” end up as absolutely barred into sexless? The term incel is exaggeration and meaningless.

    Our media has insisted that the reward be sex.
    We stand here in the midst of a generation of boys who do not know failure. Compounded on this is the expectation of sexual self determination due to ‘not failing’.

    Exactly, there is MASSIVE sociological and psychological angle here. Its like people would rather use the word INCEL, instead of actually understanding what’s going on.

    That is probably what women fear the most – a whole army of men just giving up totally

    AMEN!

    Is their ideas the result of societal indoctrination? Yes.

    yea, these “(I wont even say the bulls~~~ term anymore)’s” are uninformed, psyched out and horny. We’re all on a journey, they are just on mile one. They need to learn and figure s~~~ out, not adopt some silly label that has no meaning and is clearly a male shaming meme.

    a core belief that defines them.

    Same thing. The word INCEL is being used to program men into think sex is some high art that must be had. That women are trophies. LOL, MGTOW numbers are about to f~~~ing explode. Female SMP value is so inflated, the bubble is finally bursting. All these “NAWALTS” are being revealed to be roast-beef, diseased pussy hitting the Wall at mach-s~~~. I see many happy MGTOW in the future and scores of dildos and cats comforting old hags.

    #812388
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    Either you have forgotten what it was like being an inexperienced teenager, or you never experienced those awkward years and were one of those guys who always had plenty of hot ass thrown his way.

    But isn’t this why we have MGTOW ?! We stumbled on a Sandman video after being burned by some bitch, which led us to Stardusk and the awakening.

    Do I remember being a shy teen, pining after vagina, choking on my sentences, embarrassed to even say hello, utterly intimidated by a girl? OF COURSE, BUT THAT IS THE SAME EXPERIENCE FOR 90% of all boys and young men. We don’t need to give credence to an obviously derogatory term like incel. They are not involuntary, nor are the celibate. They are virgins and normally shy, developing young men. This is just how young men and women are.

    How can a freaking 17 year old kid be celibate? He shouldn’t even be having sex in the first place. And even if 17 year olds have sex, they are brand new at it, hardly past virginity. Celibacy is not Virginity!

    I have a heart for boys and men, who were not the jocks who got the cheerleaders. I was a outlier. I was mediocre, most guys are! I was even further than that though, REALLY WEIRD. I wore a trench coat in highschool.

    I’m telling you, this false term INCEL is bad news. All it is a fish hook lure set by the feminists. “Get them thinking they’re defective, get them thinking pussy is sweeter than it really is, destroy their self esteem, keep female SMP inflated….” This is what happens when you take the bait and give credence to these false ideas.

    There is a stark difference between a shy 15 year old boy (virtually indistinguishable from any 15 year old boy) and pill popping psycho who kills several classmates. All boys are coy, shy, unsure of their ability to talk to a girl…. it has nothing to do with these psychopaths, those kids are literally retarded in some way, had nothing to do with sex.

    #812392
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    Hermit, I totally hear you brother. Its just constructive discussion.

    Let’s both hope that these self-described ‘incel’ boys wake up and become card carrying MGTOW. Their paths lead here, that I’m sure of. But right now they’re in no man’s land and utterly confused by gynocentrism.

    #812394
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    Hermit
    Hermit
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    Either you have forgotten what it was like being an inexperienced teenager, or you never experienced those awkward years and were one of those guys who always had plenty of hot ass thrown his way.

    But isn’t this why we have MGTOW ?! We stumbled on a Sandman video after being burned by some bitch, which led us to Stardusk and the awakening.

    Do I remember being a shy teen, pining after vagina, choking on my sentences, embarrassed to even say hello, utterly intimidated by a girl? OF COURSE, BUT THAT IS THE SAME EXPERIENCE FOR 90% of all boys and young men. We don’t need to give credence to an obviously derogatory term like incel. They are not involuntary, nor are the celibate. They are virgins and normally shy, developing young men. This is just how young men and women are.

    How can a freaking 17 year old kid be celibate? He shouldn’t even be having sex in the first place. And even if 17 year olds have sex, they are brand new at it, hardly past virginity. Celibacy is not Virginity!

    I have a heart for boys and men, who were not the jocks who got the cheerleaders. I was a outlier. I was mediocre, most guys are! I was even further than that though, REALLY WEIRD. I wore a trench coat in highschool.

    I’m telling you, this false term INCEL is bad news. All it is a fish hook lure set by the feminists. “Get them thinking they’re defective, get them thinking pussy is sweeter than it really is, destroy their self esteem, keep female SMP inflated….” This is what happens when you take the bait and give credence to these false ideas.

    There is a stark difference between a shy 15 year old boy (virtually indistinguishable from any 15 year old boy) and pill popping psycho who kills several classmates. All boys are coy, shy, unsure of their ability to talk to a girl…. it has nothing to do with these psychopaths, those kids are literally retarded in some way, had nothing to do with sex.

    I see the point you’re trying to make and that you don’t like the term “incel”. People are always going to have labels both negative and positive.

    ………and yes, there is a big difference between the average shy teenager and the dickheads who decide to kill unaware and unarmed students.

    If a 17 year old shouldn’t be having sex, then why the hell is the urge so f~~~ing strong at that age. That s~~~ ain’t fair at all, man! HA!

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #812399
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    Hermit
    Hermit
    Participant

    Hermit, I totally hear you brother. Its just constructive discussion.

    Let’s both hope that these self-described ‘incel’ boys wake up and become card carrying MGTOW. Their paths lead here, that I’m sure of. But right now they’re in no man’s land and utterly confused by gynocentrism.

    No need to explain. I’m only having a mature discussion with you as well. I don’t get angry with people on a forums site. I don’t fight and argue with anyone, unless I’m just having fun, like when Colin and I were giving each other s~~~ one day.

    Still, I see no way to reach young people like that. Like you said, they’re lost and confused in no man’s land. Some young people can get it together and have the ability to listen to and understand an adult who is trying to help them. For others, it’s more difficult. At that age, my mind was so f~~~ed up, I just had to wade through all the bulls~~~ and wait to grow up.

    The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

    #812401
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    Ranger One
    Ranger One
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    16836

    I had no desire to have sex when I was 17. I didn’t have sex until I was almost 23.

    For a number of years my sex drive was high (late 20’s on) ; I had sex about 400 times in 1995 during a more Chaddish phase, got married to first ex after that and discovered how much sex can drop in a marriage.

    I had sex over 3,500 times with the 2nd ex from about 2002 to 2016.

    I got a lot of strange in 2016, then 2 gf’s in 2017, down to one gf now. My sex drive is virtually non-existent now. I wouldn’t even fap if it weren’t for prostate health.

    I’ve become so red-pilled that I have no desire for fishy meat hole any more. If I could, I’d rather exist as a non-corporeal energy being like Q or the Organians in Star Trek.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #812424
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    you don’t like the term “incel”.

    yea, that’s my whole diatribe. Agreed, that labels are labels, whatcha gonna do..its already caught on.

    But everytime I hear the word incel, its like nails on a chalkboard.
    The term Incel make me imagine the guy you see sometimes at a public urinal, he’s the one whose pants are all the way down on his ankles LOL.

    But even THAT guy… put alcohol in a woman and she will f~~~ that guy! LOL

    #812591
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    KevinStyles
    KevinStyles
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    I have to admit, as a MGTOW, i don’t really understand INCELS. Since INCELS are both genders and their beef is they don’t even get to have sex because of whatever reasons, introverted, funny looking, whatever. Why don’t they just get together within their own group? Both sexes are represented, get busy.

    #812603
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    Secret Agent MGTOW
    Secret Agent MGTOW
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    22510

    I can understand the frustrations of being INCEL. There was a point in my life when societal pressure made me feel like there was something wrong with me.

    It was MY FAULT I wasn’t getting laid. Society labeled me defective.

    What they didn’t understand was that the more they pushed me to chase pussy, with in school “Sex-Ed” programs and Billboards with half naked women, the more I wanted nothing to do with it.

    If society is defined by women, then I am opting of it entirely. I slipped through the cracks on purpose. There was nothing involuntary about it. That’s what these INCEL need to realize. There is always a choice. I could have been a pussy begging simp, but I chose not to be one.

    INCEL need to make a choice. Be a pussy beggar or Go Your Own Way.

    I am not INCEL, I am VOCEL. Voluntary celibate. I want nothing to do with the diseased, worn-out and overrated sex organs of todays modern women. No thanks, I am healthy and disease free. I get an urge, I take care of it, and get back to work.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    #812605
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    NerdTunneler
    NerdTunneler
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    Incels are still blue pill slaves to the plantation…They pander to the holy vagina and seek its approval as reason for their existence…They have to take plenty of red pills to understand that its not worth it…The “LOVE” they seek is fleeting…They dont love themselves…

    MGTOW is about respecting yourself and being responsible for your own life…You validate yourself irregardless of what other people say about you…We smile in the face of almost anything because we know what freedom is and we embrace the responsibility of our own choice and our own life…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #812700
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    Smitty the Great One
    Smitty the Great One
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    1535

    okay, I think we’re done here with anything constructive, thanks….

    Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

    #812875
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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    I am VOCEL. Voluntary celibate. I want nothing to do with the diseased, worn-out and overrated sex organs of todays modern women.

    Damn straight

    okay, I think we’re done here

    We’re never done, there will be another thread like this where we will all say the same thing again LMAO and for good reason

    Cirvular

    #813179
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    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
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    4352

    “Western Women”

    Please dont say NAWALT

    There is no such thing ANYWHERE in the world .

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #813208
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    Mr Logic
    Mr Logic
    Participant
    625

    Online dating and American bitches created incels.

    #813245
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    The Wall®
    The Wall®
    Participant
    655

    Online dating and American bitches created incels.

    +1. Yep. All of a sudden, low SMV women think they are all deserving of that Mr. 6/6/6. No introspection by women whatsoever these days.

    Dr. Veritas' Red Pill dosage recommendation: Once a day or more as needed.

    #813248
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    MgtowWave
    MgtowWave
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    4352

    INCELs

    In the 1970s i heard or read about something called Sex Surrogacy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_surrogate

    So Ive been aware for decades there are men who have no idea how to seduce a woman or get into a “romantic” relationship AND im aware there are men who are very skilled at it .
    Regardless of the quality of their personality .
    For both.
    http://sheddingoftheego.com/2015/08/23/hybristophilia-the-female-attraction-to-violence/

    But

    I wish i could grab all these INCEL guys by the shirt,shake them and yell “WAKE UP !”

    Look
    I can understand a man wanting a woman to be care about ,love and even want him , because its been programmed into us for centuries .

    Men , and especially INCELs ,the way you think about and define these things,, is with misconceptions and outright lies propagated by women and culture

    .IS NOT the way women think about and define them .

    Women DO NOT care about and love men the same way men care about women .

    Not far from where i live, a young man stood between his girlfriend and bullets being fired by an Islamist terrorist and paid the ultimate price – with his life .

    That is something WOMEN ALMOST NEVER DO .
    If ever .

    This is a byproduct of human evolution and culture .

    Im sorry to tell you .

    Think about the male features that women find most irresistibly attractive.

    Combinations of

    Looks
    A big dick
    Status
    Money
    Income
    Charm
    Humor

    ALL of them are all about his utility FOR HER to utilize.

    Its NOT about ” O hes a decent person .”

    It IS about what he can do AND DOES for her .

    NOT what she can do for him .

    EVERYWHERE AROUND THE WORLD .
    AWALT from North Pole to South Pole .

    Walk away and be glad that you are not stuck with years of child support or lifetime alimony .

    Be glad that you are not falsely accused like the Duke Lacross boys .

    Be glad if you are never arrested because the woman you are with hits you but the police arrest YOU for Domestic Violence

    Be glad that you do not have a woman vacuuming away your piece of mind and mental health every day.
    Be glad that you do not have a woman spending YOUR hard earned money on things ONLY SHE WANTS .
    Be glad you dont have to put up with PMS .
    Be glad if NEVER wonder in the back of your mind she has or will cheat on you.
    Be glad if you dont have kids and wonder in the back of your mind if they really arent yours .
    Be glad if you dont have an STD .

    Ive been thru my share of women and I tell you AWALT
    In one way or another ALL women are trouble .

    Watch some episodes of the Maury Show .

    Listen to the words of Stardusk when he says things like

    Pussy is just a squishy hole …..

    This shows you how your average woman thinks about men .

    Not ONE woman stood up and booed.

    Not one .

    Women do not care about men .

    SO LEAVE THEM ALONE .

    Being depressed about a woman not lusting after you is beyond the pale dumb ..
    Because what women call loving a man is little but lust .
    If anything EVER .

    Forget that s~~~ and go on with your life and be glad .

    Being depressed because a woman dosent love you is being depressed about something only a tiny fraction of all the men in the world have ever truly had .

    IF ANY !!!

    Forget that s~~~ and go on with your life and be glad .

    How many men would be glad and thankful to meet and begin a relationship with a woman who is shy,kind ,quiet ,easy going and is not especially good looking ??

    But women ignore men with attributes like this .

    Men and women are not the same .

    Rid yourself of cognitive dissonance .

    Go Your Own Way .
    Be your own man .

    MGTOW .

    frankly my dear i don't give a damn

    #813310
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    Gui
    gui
    Participant
    825

    I agree with Smitty the Great One. While I strongly dislike victimism and I strongly condemn people who think they have the right to hurt other people because they had frustrations in their life, like those more revolted types who plan terrorist acts (I believe those types should always get maximum punishment A.K.A death), I am also disgusted by a few points about this subject.

    Some of them are:

    – Many men critize incels not because of the wrong and self defeating ideas incels usually have but by their “inability” to get in a relationship with a woman and to critize them with this bulls~~~ just means you have a bluepill mindset and are acting like a mangina. It’s just plain worshipping of women because you are effectively stating an male individual should be measured by his involvment with a woman.

    – Women, like their magina servants, love to critize incels by their “inability” to get in a relationship and that’s just hypocritical because women know all too well that most of them would discriminate the dudes that are incels and they know the game is totally biased in their favour due to gynocentrism, feminism and all the s~~~ we know.

    I am not saying people don’t have the right to discriminate others due their personal preferences. I am saying that everyone does have the right and everyone does it all the time but women like to pretend it doesn’t happens and they get offended when it happens with them. That’s why a fat lady will only want to date fit guys but will throw a tantrum if a fit man shows disgust at her flaccid body.

    – Hypergamy means some men won’t get companionship unless they have something to turn the table on the situation like money or good social status. For example, an poor, shy dude with some physical deficience or any really unpleasant shortcoming won’t get pussy unless he pays for it so sometimes being an incel is not really a choice. That’s an uncomfortable politically incorrect truth that gets denied all the time yet never gets any less truer.

    Again, I am not saying getting pussy should be anyone’s ultimate goal but I think it’s unfair when the almost the entire society teach men to have an unhealty view of women, teach those same mean to become obssessed by them, teach them to search for their hapiness in others (the gravest mistake of all) and I think it’s hypocritical when the same society comes and shames them for failing to build upon the illusion they were sold.

    So yeah, I don’t hate incels because I think they are deluded by the matrix and I think shaming is not the way to make them see reality. What I am against are any victimism and wrong ideas (i.e. against any ideals that hurt individual liberty) that may arise within them.

    After all I am not against celibacy. I am after against people trying to enforce their view into others. And this incel term also doubles as a way to indirectly shame voluntarily celibacy and that can be seen through the works of people like Joseph Paul Watson that said in one of his recent videos that MGTOW and incels are the same.

    I am going monk right know so I can better focus on getting the stuff I want done but I dislike when people try to shame others into going monk as well. I am only using it because it’s being useful to me right now and I am not a slave so I can change my way anytime I feel like.

    What bothers me it’s that criticism against incels usually breaks down to:

    A) Girls that like teasing men because they know relationships are biased in their favour and they like how the shaming makes them feel powerful.

    B) Manginas that try to reassure themselves of their blue pill facsimile of masculinity by shaming men that don’t live like they do because it makes them feel manlier and enables them to (try) to show off to women.

    C) People that have autoritharian nature and feel threatened when people aren’t living like they do. Examples: overly religious people that think people should be forced into relationships, people whose ideologies demand that everyone must get in relationships because otherwise their fear for the collapse of mankind and etc.

    Also there is what I think it’s the biggest problem about incels. The way I see it, the term is a feminist shaming term invented so they could put every man women and society discriminate against in the same basket as the crazy son of bitches that murder innocent people because of their insane reasons.

    Sorry for the wall of text but those are my two cents on incels.

    Pity and contempt are siblings. You only feel pity for those you consider weak.

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