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[rubifenrxParticipant]

Well done!

I only help the elderly, maybe pregnant women (Ive offered before and they refuse help like they refuse a stinky-wrinkly, hairy c~~~) and disabled.

I never give me seat to women, not anymore. I used to, but women would stare at me like “Thanks….you pig”.

Chivalry is dead., and women killed it.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

BrainPilot wrote:

Another is that drunk girl in south beach on the sidewalk randomly hitting guys because she thinks guy hit her, but isn’t sure exactly which guy, so she is just walking around swinging at random guys. After about 9 or 10 guys, one of them lays her out. Both videos inspire debate about weather or not a guy should ‘ever’ hit a woman.

I know it well.

http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhe3H4fFysQ4vN7n24

And there is nothing to debate.

Lets’ leave whether or not to hit her back out of it. In that case it’s up to every man to determine on his own. But that’s where it gets interesting. If you DO leave it up to each man to decide….. that video shows you 9 out of 10 men – drunk black men – would NOT hit a woman back even when she is repeatedly throwing punches at him.

The modern female has over-leveraged.
There is WAY too much chivalry in the world.

It’s not even debatable.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[jsummer979Participant]

I love this topic. Because it seems so simple but it’s so symbolic. And there can be a high frequency of repetition. I install cable and am in a work van daily, and stop at alot of convenience stores. I have no good stories on that yet as I have only dreamed so far, about having a camera and studying the door habits of people and even women in particular. I should at least document on paper. ( usually just to busy getting through my day to think to do it). But often I pay for my items at the counter then head out the door. ONLY TO BE FACED WITH A WOMAN COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME. GODDAMMNIT! 85% of the time I can see an expectation of chivalry in her eyes (I live in the deepsouth). And being that they at that time are on top of the door, I would normally cave to local custom and open the door for them……….. well, just so happens that the door wings the other way (outwardly). And as she is not making the move to pull open the door for me, and pushing open the door for her while I am standing inside would be awkward (but it is done), I just push through the door. When those times happen, I try to remind myself to always scan for oncoming women in the future as to avoid meeting them at the door. (one of those things I would like to video from a distance to later study).

I took a trip recently to Chicago area with my ex, escorting our daughter to an audtion nearby. My ex and I went into Chicago for half day while daughter was in audition. On the train ride back to car park, we were all sitting (3 in group, two females with me) and the car was somewhat crowded. A fairly young couple got on. the man had one of those baby  slings with an infant in it. I did offer him my seat and he took it. His female stood. That was cool.

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Funny you took the words right out of my thought bubble.

I was going to add…… the random crazed bitch on the subway – or the drunk bitch throwing punches outside a nightclub – that’s a different story. I must follow my own rule at all times and maintain strict no-violence policy, but as Chris Rock once put it:

“I’m not saying it’s RIGHT… but I understand”.

9 out of 10 men (90%) will not hit a woman back even if she is repeatedly throwing punches at him.

There is still way too much chivalry in the world.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous]

In the MGTOW-History

http://www.mgtowhistory.com/

you will find this:

MEN GOING THEIR OWN WAY

Every man supporting this idea is welcome to use the logo in this or similar contexts.

What we do as activism or the way we behave personally are the main tactics.

• Use of a logo which symbolizes the strategy.
• Run one or more web-sites and forums that promotes this.
• Run one or more web-sites which tells the truth about feminism.
• Provide stickers, T-shirts, etc., with various statements such as “Chivalry is dead!”.
• Writing articles supporting our product.
• Producing music promoting our product.
• Hold international events and local meetings.
• Establishing men’s clubs.
• Boycotting certain products.

You will basically be alone doing this. There is no organization supporting you. You just go your own way and do what you believe is right. You are never obligated beyond your own conscience. True masculinity is also about accepting the rights of other men and not letting them down for any short term personal benefits.

 

CHEERS!!!

[BrainPilotParticipant]

Congrat’s on those two responses. That was perfect. Over the years, I’ve learned that the trick is using a very polite tone when pulling out a reality club and beating them over the head with it. If you’re mad or nasty, they can use that hostile tone as an excuse to disregard all the content of what you say. If you’re soft spoken and polite when you say it, it gets in unopposed like a trojan horse and detonates inside the perimeter. I never get tired of watching their faces when I do this. Watching the impact of reality hitting that castle of bulls~~~ they’ve constructed in their heads. It’s like watching a wrecking ball hit a condemned building… Even if the building does not collapse immediately, you know that watching the dust fly and the cracks form that it will never be the same after that first contact with the wrecking ball.

someone else on this site said it better than me, but I’ll pass long his quote. Essentially: “You can have chivalry or equality…but not both.”

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[StratManO1Participant]

@brainpilot Thank you sir for the welcome. All these years with others telling me that the problem was with me, I read here that it isn’t, just as you say also. It’s the lies and bulls~~~ that confuse me and other men into the behavior much like we see on tv and movies now. I’ve had self doubt that caused so much stress – but now, it’s gone. Knowing it’s all bulls~~~ and there are others who see things as I do, I’m stress free – at least in that area, bills and money are different but not hitting the ego at all, ya know?

I have to say, knowing this already is making a difference. Today at work one of the ladies asked me if I knew anything about cars. I think is because everyone knows I ride the only motorcycle there. I said a little and she went on to describe what was wrong, I said it might be a broken belt or her steering pump went bad. Then came the $64,000 question – “Oh do you think you can take a look and fix it for me?”

Before I found this website my usual response would have been a No with and apology stating I don’t have my tools with me. But this time was different, I simply said “No” and went back to work. I didn’t apologize, I didn’t make excuses or give reasons why I couldn’t – all playing that false guilt I’ve felt for years. A simple No, the conversation ended and I felt good. I realized I didn’t owe her or anyone else an explanation. No – doesn’t matter why, I just didn’t want to. No – it felt good.

Then another thing happened leaving work. After walking out and letting the door close, there was a woman who was going in. The old me would have stopped, went back, opened and held the door for her to go through. Today, I didn’t. I just looked past her towards my bike when she said “Aren’t you going to get the door for me?” This made me stop, yes, but I said something I never thought I would ever say –

“Women want Equal Rights, you can get the door yourself.”

Now I said it nicely, no hate or malice in my voice. And she gave just a funny little look then opened the door and went in. And I can’t believe how easy it was. It wasn’t until I got to my bike that I think she couldn’t say anything because of the logic of what I said. I think I confused her. If women want equality, then they can get their own doors – chivalry is dead. If women was special treatment, then they don’t want equality – chivalry lives, or should I say chivalry is slavery.

Anyway, long response, but damn if it didn’t feel good today.

 

I am keeping my profile private until I can no longer be damaged by my ex and then I will post it publicly.  My story is, that I got married, then got played, but she made a few errors (I am still alive).  A few $100k and many years later, I am nearly out of her cesspool!  I am here at MGTOW because this was where I discovered sanity in this lost world.  My first year after the divorce I couldn’t sleep, couldn’t stand to be inside, couldn’t explain to my friends and family what was happening to me.  Years later and it finally makes sense, largely because of what I have learned here and in speaking to other red-pill brothers.  The females around me sense that I have become feral and they give me space, but I carefully avoid being labeled by them as “the creepy guy” as this will end my professional job.  I have no fear these days.  I also have no sense of chivalry.  My life has been spent in servitude to females, but that has ended. As I watch the steady pace of feminists while they infest our culture I think that frankly, they can have it.  They can defend it, they can repair it, and they can clean it up.  My job will be to fil in the cracks wherever I can!  Giggity-gigity!

I had a nice chat with a female today about feminism and the absence of a corresponding men’s movement. It started off with her telling me about a friend of hers whose 50+ year old father is undergoing gender reassignment surgery and how complicated everything has become for the friend, her family and everyone who is now being forced to accept this man’s new reality.

Given her opener, I could not help but engage:

♀ “Why does he want to be a woman? He’ll never feel what we feel sexually or have a baby… and there’s no benefit to being a woman… I go through hell on a daily basis just because I’m a woman… why would anyone choose that?”

♂ “Well, first off, people have got to do what they’ve got to do. I don’t know why a man would want to be a woman, maybe some deep seated trauma or identity confusion or maybe there is such a thing as true gender dysmorphia… but to say that there’s no benefit to being a woman… well that’s just bulls~~~. Maybe this individual won’t receive those benefits but there are definitely benefits to being female.”

♀ “Such as?”

♂ “First, the obvious one… free food, drinks, gifts and a place to stay from just about any man you choose. S~~~, you’re living in a guy’s house and he’s paying your share of the rent right now. Then the big one… society has your back in practically every situation where it’s your word versus that of a man. And then all the hidden ones… you get extra benefits and time off for making children regardless of whether or not you’re the primary caregiver, you are not forced to register for selective services or perform in combat situations, you are not expected to work long hours at strenuous physical work or perform dangerous tasks… you want to talk about women having it hard then let’s look at workplace fatality statistics. It’s men at something like 85% who are being killed on the job and that doesn’t even include the military. And if you put one woman in fatigues or in a police or firefighter uniform, she gets all the credit for being brave and flying in the face of stereotypes while thousands of unmentioned men die in those positions every year.”

♀ “Well yeah… and I blame feminists for all of that. Men definitely have it tough. So why hasn’t there been a ‘Chivalrist’ movement to counteract the feminist movement?”

♂ “Sweetheart, the ‘chivalrist’ movement is what men were doing before feminism came along and f~~~ed it all up… hunting and fighting and mining and clearing and farming and building and protecting and dying for the benefit of women and all we wanted in return was a warm meal, some clean socks and a bit of sex now and then… and some respect for all the hard work… but females wanted that excitement for themselves. They wanted to have all the ‘power’ that men have and to not have to pull their end of the deal any more so now they’ve got it. And yes, there is a men’s movement, only it’s not to push harder to take back all our previous gender roles and give even more to females. You know what men are doing to counteract feminism? They’re dropping out.”

♀ “Oh my god, I’ve noticed that.”

♂ “I’m glad to hear it. Females want to go to the office and bust their ass all day for a dollar and climb the corporate ladder and pay for their own homes and cars and bills and try to have families and careers at the same time and then go out and look for a ‘good man’ who will love and cherish them but those men don’t see the point any more. You’ve pushed us out of all our traditional spaces and have made the simple act of being a man something to be ashamed of so we’re done. The ‘good men’ are at home, taking care of their own business. They’re working just hard enough to survive and playing video games and f~~~ing off and they’re hiring maids and ordering delivery food and hooking up or calling prostitutes when they need sex and they’re going their own way, doing what they want for themselves and their own pleasure and happiness and they don’t really care what happens to you any more. You’re not seeing them as a movement, though, because they’re not organizing and protesting and trying to change things… they’ve simply gone home and more and more of them will be doing it from this point forward.”

♀ “Well my boyfriend isn’t like that… well, he was until I started dating him. I think I’m going to marry him… he’s awesome.”

♂ “Yeah, well if you can convince him to work harder than he needs to so that he can feed, clothe, shelter and protect you and your future children, then you’d better hang onto him because there will come a time when females are doing ALL the work and there won’t be any more men around to both depend and blame things on… and instead of guys throwing free s~~~ at you and opening doors for you and lining up to take care of, defend and protect you, you’ll be paying guys to come around and do the things that husbands and fathers used to do. Then they’ll take YOUR money and go spend it on beer, video games and hookers. That’s the future we’re headed to and you heard it here first.”

♀ “It sounds terrible but yeah, I agree with everything you say.”

Well there you go… another female learns the truth about where all the good men have gone.

[BrainPilotParticipant]

They can have chivalry from a ‘gentleman’ or equality from a peer, but not both. As far as I’m concerned, they’ve made their choice.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@Collteral I have just had to edit and delete your post. Please don’t make me do it again. Visit about this forum and read and understand the ONLY ONE rule we have . I don’t give a f~~~ if a woman is turned on by it – including Rhianna – but recommended slapping , biting , or pain s~~~ has no place in this forum. We have articles about women picking fights and you do not satisfy those t~~~s.

I have had woman in bed say “hit me”.

Come again?

“Slap me hard”.

Now maybe you’re a sick f~~~… because you’ve already been very clear about paying women to f~~~ them and biting them when they want you to. But I got the f~~~ out of there. I refused to give her the satisfaction of being able to feature me on the front page the next morning. Just like you should probably get the f~~~ out of here until you have a better understanding of the forum rules and proper conduct. We do not suggest or encourage violence , biting, or beating and I don’t give a s~~~ if it turns women on. They are mentally f~~~ing sick. You have some s~~~ to learn and figure out first. Come back another time. Your post has been unapologetically deleted.

Just because women have sick, twisted & violent fantasies, doesn’t mean you GIVE it to her, Man.
You’re PAYING HER FOR SEX, man. Who the f~~~ cares about getting HER off????

The same f~~~ed up bitch will fantasize about chivalry too.
Are you dumb enough to hold the door open and buy her dinner???

2.14 is INTERNATIONAL MGTOW DAY for a REASON.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous]

This happened last summer, as I was returning home on train after a really tiresome day of running around and my feet were killing me. So there I was sitting quietly, trying to relax to some smooth jazz by Kenny G and out of nowhere this hideous looking bitch comes and stands right in front of me with her eyes fixated on me. My first thought was she was someone I knew but glancing at her face not only reassured me that she wasn’t but also made me want to puke. She was wearing makeup like she just robbed a Maybelline store. Her lipstick were of a colour that I really don’t think has a name..I mean it was a shade of black I know but..could probably give you the HTML code if I clicked a pic and used an eyedropper tool on her lips. Her eyes had three juxtaposing Formula 1 tracks of eyeliner some of which had smudged and seeped into her sclera (white part of the eye) and eyeshadow that made her look like a shaved purple panda. And to top it off she wore black nail polish to boot. I mean, I’m not sure but when she spoke I also noticed an extremely sharp pair of canines so she could’ve very well been a vampire for all I know.

Now I was trying to relax and it wasn’t really crowded, only a few people, that she-vampire and a couple were the one standing so I was sitting with my legs spread(so sue me you Toronto feminazi c~~~s). She came out of nowhere and stood right in between my legs, so close that if the train came to a sudden halt and I slipped a bit, my crotch would have made contact with her and she might accuse me of attempted rape. That thought really made me uncomfortable, and also I’d rather dip my penis in molten lava than her. So I paused the music and told her as politely as I could.
“Ma’am could you please back off a bit?”
She then replied in a shrill, horse-like voice
“I guess chivalry is dead after all”

ME(startled) “Excuse me?!”
SHE “I said chivalry is dead after all when the men remain comfortably seated while a woman is left standing”
ME(with a smile) “Tell me, aren’t you a feminist?”
SHE “Of course I am”
ME “Then you do believe as feminists worldwide claim that men and women should be treated equally?”
SHE “I do”
ME “And you still expect me to put you on the pedestal by offering you my seat, which I paid for with my hard earned money, even though I don’t know you and have never seen you in my life?”
SHE “See that’s where you are wrong, feminism tries to teach men to be gentlemen, to respect and cherish women and not to be selfish all the time“. “But I guess I was wrong, you aren’t a gentleman so I shouldn’t really expect you to act like one and offer me your seat”

Now I was really tired after a long day so I didn’t even feel like educating her on the fallacies of her belief system. So instead I just replied.
“Maybe, but then again you’re not exactly my idea of a lady either”

Resumed the music playback, closed my eyes and went back to the soothing saxophone of Kenneth Bruce Gorelick’s rendition of Summertime.
Think I heard her awful voice for one last time when a couple of minutes later some stupid mangina offered her his seat and she went “Thank youuuuuuu” as loud as she could but the noise-cancelling feature of my earphones worked too well  🙂

[SamMGTOWParticipant]

Yeah, don’t expect any appreciation for working like an ox day in and out for a women. They’ll expect it of you and instead of being a good guy, you’ll only be – Not an asshole. Just like with the bus thing. They’ll expect equality when its suits them, chivalry when it suits them, and they’ll question your male identity if you don’t do what they say men should do. Again, you’re not a good guy for helping a woman out. Because its expected you’re just not a dick. Props for standing your ground, women have legs too. And welcome to MGTOW.

[BrainPilotParticipant]

As for a woman who offers to pay her own way on a date… Let her. In my experience, it’s relatively rare, but I’m a different generation than you. Women your age may vary from the ones I’ve experienced. In my experience, the women who’ve done that are trying to 1) demonstrate how empowered they are and that they don’t ‘need’ me. My response to this is “Great, if you don’t need me to open your door, pay your rent, or otherwise sacrifice my interests to serve yours, we’re gonna get along really well…”

2) Trying to signal to me that I should not expect sex since they are paying for their own dinner. My response to this is also, “Great. I am not here for sex, and she is not here for free dinner. She must be here for the benefit of all my wit, charm and personality. I’m good with that cause I got plenty of that s~~~. But in the spirit of fairness and equality, she should be bringing an equal amount of her own wit, charm and personality so that the time we spend is not an unequal exchange…”. If I don’t finish feeling equally amused, charmed and entertained…this won’t be repeated.

3) A female a little on the desperate-for-a-date side. She doesn’t want to be left home alone for another weekend and will pay her own way just to avoid having to go back to work/school on Monday and have nothing to say when her friends talk about their dates.

4) Testing me to see if I’ll actually let her pay. She offers, but still expects me to refuse the offer and pay for both of us. Sadly, in my experience, this is the most common basis of the offer to pay her own way. When she offers to pay her own way and I let her, she’ll later use it to criticize me to her friends for being a cheap skate. By making the offer, she can still feel empowered and demanding of equal respect, but quietly still expect me to pay so she can save a few bucks and still feel that she’s accomplished manipulating me into sacrificing on her behalf. Wether you realize or not, women do brag to their friends about how much they got a guy to spend without giving up sex. They see it as an accomplishment and treat it like a trophy. Of course, trying to get the benefits of the traditional woman’s role (free dinner) while trying to simultaneously get the benefits of being equal (equal respect), without bringing to the table a fair exchange in either case is completely dishonest. But it happens all the time, and is a small example of the much greater hypocrisy that generates so much resentment of the feminist movement. With time and practice, you’ll learn to recognize this, and react accordingly.

When this happens, I let her pay. Because as soon as I get the first impression that a woman is not being honest (for most of them, this comes early), I already know I’m going to bail… No need to pay for dinner for a woman I already know I’m about to abandon. But I have made one exception to this rule just recently.

The last time I was out with a woman who offered to pay her own way, I wasn’t sure if she was sincere. So I said, “I’m ok to pay and be chivalrous like that, but don’t want to take chance on being disrespectful to your equality. I also don’t want to let you pay your own way and offend any expectation of chivalry you might have had. Tell me what’s best for me to do here…”. I was very polite and smiled slightly when I said it. That message is very clear: Chivalry or equal respect, you can’t have both.

She started to stutter and stammer and became uncertain and uncomfortable. I interpreted her difficulty deciding as surprise at the exposure of the hypocrisy of having aimed to get both. An honest person does not need a lot of time to think about their answer to a straightforward question. My goal became to abandon this woman as quickly as I could, but also to make it clean. I said, “I’ll get this one, you think about it and you can get the next one if you decide that’s how you feel”. I never asked her out again, and I didn’t have to worry about her asking me out again, nagging me, stalking me etc (clean). It took months before I heard from her again. It wasn’t the prospect of paying her own way that scared her off, it was the prospect of having to be honest. She waited until she thought enough time had passed that I would forget it was her turn to pay. She’s still waiting… 😛

My response to all these women paying their own way is basically the same as my response the all the rest of them: Be clear about what you are bringing to the table and what you expect from me. I will decide if the overall offer is worth the overall cost…same as any other business deal. Her willingness to pay (sincere or not) will be noted and considered in my accounting of the overall offer. But at the first sign that the offer is not completely honest, or is not an equal exchange, I’m off like a cheap prom dress…

As for wether they can love men. Maybe they can, but if they do, they don’t love us the way we love them. You can’t measure or identify it by their willingness to make sacrifice for our benefit. It just doesn’t happen that way. Though I don’t have kids and can’t speak from experience, I have seen other posters write that they can love their children this way, and would not disagree. Some women seem to make sacrifices on instinct for the benefit of their children, but not men.

My request of you is that on the next offer you have from a woman who offers to pay her own way, is that you make that same straightforward request that she choose between equality and chivalry and see how she responds. I’ve only done this once, and was disappointed with the result. But I’d be interested to see what the response from your generation of women is.

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[BrainPilotParticipant]

Regardless of wether you trust her or not, it was useful for her to point out to women, that they have some choices to make. My favorite choice to present to them is something I saw elsewhere on this site: “you can have chivalry or equality, but not both”. I’ve presented that choice to a whole bunch of women, have never really gotten a straight answer. A straight answer to that question is a single word. The answers I’ve usually gotten have been some stammering followed by some long, poorly delivered half assed attempt at explaining why she should be able to get both…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[JimboParticipant]

Yeah, because society some how never recognized women with the ages of Chivalry, men getting killed to protect the tribe, men breaking their backs in the fields while women got to enjoy the comforts of indoor work, men sacrificing their lives with incidents such as the sinking of the Titanic, and so on.

You know what guys, this mangi, erh “author” has a “point”, we really haven’t given women their “due credit” for all of the “sacrifices” they have “made” for society.

[FitzBonesParticipant]

Chivalry is dead only because women beat it to death with their own stupidity.
Welcome to the site

"If you can fill the unforgiving minute with sixty seconds' worth of distance run,"

The first time I ever heard about MGTOW, or men’s rights for that matter, was in a video by RBK that appeared in my suggested list while I was watching Thunderf00t slam Big Red and other fems (thunder’s video didn’t mention men’s rights directly, but discussed the poison of feminism). Anyway, in the RBK video I thought it sounded like he hated women at first, but the more his British TTS voice went on, the more I realized he saw something I didn’t see. Less than a week later I got the red pill, the scornful women from the video invaded my real life, I had a girl accuse me of sexual harassment simply for introducing myself. After that came my first feminist rape, I was helping a girl up after she had fallen, once she saw who it was that helped her, she decided she felt violated, and I was a rapist for touching her without her permission. I am tired of being a white knight, I was brought up to be a polite and chivalrous person, but now I see that women do not want chivalry any more; they want to exert power over men, and I am no one’s slave.

[Chuck CanadaParticipant]

Here is just a couple,

-a guy hits on a girl he finds attractive but the girl does not – guy winds up being charged with sexual harassment but no man could do the opposite if a troll of a woman hit on him it would never go that way even if she was actually harassing him, it would be laughed at in court.

-i’m just going to say one word for this one ”divorce” that whole fiasco is a double standard

-marriage is a double standard, again i’m not even going to speak on the subject, if you are reading this on this website then you know why marriage is a double standard.

-bad driving, woman can talk on the phone run a red light or something and get pulled over if the cop is a male she could cry and show off her breasts and likely get a much lesser fine than if it were a man that did it, i guess that one comes down to ignorant alpha male men who still think chivalry exists.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@shashim

Karen’s change of heart might be because she has sons.

That’s more than just speculation. An excellent point. We see how fathers will sell out their own when god drops a daughter in his lap. Mothers don’t generally do that for their sons. They typically teach him all the WRONG things to do. EXAMPLE: She’s upset (or behaving like a bitch)? Buy her flowers and take her out to make her feel better! TRANSLATION: Pay to reward her for bad behavior and just to “calm her down”. Your mother will nudge you to give women what they want more than they will want youth have what YOU want and what’s in your best interests. Mothers teach sons about “chivalry” and

Just look at that bulls~~~ and see how BAD and wrong it is.
We need to teach our sons the difference between:

• “A man who flatters her and a man who compliments her”

OK stop. That difference is purely imagined in a woman’s head. Like the guy who gives her a “compliment” and she calls him a “creep”… but exactly the same behavior from George Clooney and she will slide off her chair. Daughters need to be taught the f~~~ing difference. Not SONS. Women who “creep” shame are the f~~~ing creeps.

• “A man who spends money on her and a man who invests in her.”

Jesus Christ.

• “a man who views her as property and a man who view her properly”

Is there no end to this s~~~ from women? How she is “viewed” isn’t up to HIM. It’s up to HER not to present herself as “property” for purchase. To don’t teach someone to view someone certain way. You teach the the daughter to present herself a certain way. Again it’s not up to HIM. It’s up to HER.

• “A man who lusts after her and a man who loves her”

Oh I see. Except when a man loves a woman and he buys a plane ticket to cross an ocean to visit her… if she loves HIM, he’s “the most romantic man in the world”. But if she is NOT in love with him, POOF! he’s a STALKER. In both situations the man has done nothing different (or even wrong!) he merely wants to be with her. So the line between “romantic” and “STALKER” is purely imagined in her head. If women knew anything about the difference between “lust” and “love” why do they confuse the s~~~ out of them all the time? A f~~~ing bootie call will tell you she “loves” you after 6 months of good banging. You didn’t even take her out for dinner!

There is no need to even TOUCH the last point. Women think the are “gifts” when they aren’t already.
How the f~~~ do (these) women think they are qualified to raise sons in the first place?
That message is just another way of saying “we need to brainwash our sons – as quickly as possible”.

Fathers (for example) who once also wanted to date girls and get laid often, would now treat a 16-18 year old boyfriend like a goddam rapist before he even picks her up or kisses her for the first time. Just LOOK at his daughter and he will have a problem with it.

Would Karen Straughn have become “GirlWritesWhat” if she didn’t have sons?
That’s a very good question.

But don’t put as much thought into it as I have just now.
She does have sons, and that’s the way it turned out.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.