Maybe I missed something, but if this site is about supporting a political ideology (outside of possibly discussing men’s rights issues) I am right out of here.
This portion of the site is to discuss politics. There is a forum on here for tech and games, and other things also. MGTOW central is for MGTOW stuff, and you have other areas also.
I posted this, because Trump got discussed before, and became sort of a mascot around the MGTOWsphere.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Child support basically says the man is expected to make more money, so he should give it up to the woman who is a better caregiver, at her choice.
Things like this will ONLY get fixed when we lose the political correct liberal BS. Vote for Trump. Every man has these feelings, but isn’t allowed to act upon it. If we say anything, we are hateful misogynists. That is not a democracy. If you think it will get any better with Hilary, I laugh.
A reason for my posting this on here, is that, what bothered me is how much around the MGTOWsphere there was saying how wonderful Trump was. He was like the MGTOW choice for president, or so it went. I got a huge “Cult of Personality” vibe from it all, and it bothered me. Now, he goes off with this, and more.
For myself, the MGTOW way isn’t to end up trumpeting anyone as a hero that will save you. You save yourself, and make do, no matter what happens in the political climate. You leave a warzone if you have to, and so on.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
The real problem modern western societies have is our version of democracy. It has, and will continue to be unduly influenced by financially influential lobbying corporations and minority groups that swing the balance of power. This leads to governments being effectively bribed, and also governments buying votes from minorities. Responsible government that stands up to corporations or curbs handouts to minority groups get kicked straight out.
All we get to choose is the personality. This personality will then replace the previous cog in the same machinery. True democracy is voting on issues, not just leaders. In today’s technological society where even homeless people and pre-school children have phones, we should have far more referendums from our phones. People have an unprecedented access to information with the net that has no equal in history. People should be involved on a whole range of issues rather than the one vote for a party every 3 or 5 years.
While the western political system remains stagnant we’ll continue to have the financial looting we had in the past regardless of what monetary system we use or who we vote in. It’s too easy for self interested groups to dissect the political process and unduly influence pivotal policy makers to trump the common good.
With Trump, you may like him, because he will strong say what is on his mind, and not care. You can find that awesome. But then he keeps going and going and going, without regard for anything, until he will go too far, and you go WTF? I didn’t even get to the total ban on all Muslims coming into America, until “they can sort it out”. What I am seeing is a reaction by him to stop the world, and make it safe, until you can figure it out. Well, the world doesn’t work this way.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
This is why I don’t vote. Even Trump, who seems to be the only president who would take a stand and make the sacrifices necessary for the US, isn’t able to satisfy the public fully.
You guys really think it still matters which puppet becomes president?
I can see no difference between Bush or I’llbombya.
Train keeps moving down the same tracks that have been laid down long ago.
Yep, pretty much.
I see a lot of people getting passionate about who is charge. But regardless of who is in power, their agenda is the same” more power for them, and less EVRYTHING for everybody else.
Trump of Hitlary, all the f~~~ing same. They will change the speech, or even the methodology, but the goal is the same.
If you think that’s stupid then you are in for one hell of a shock mate, there is a s~~~ ton of stupid in this world trust me on that,
Tell me about it Trump suggested banning Muslims and the media is demonizing him for it. I think we need to get them registered and ban any from entering the freaking country. I understand that not all Muslims are terrorists but far too many terrorists are Muslims.
Unless her last name is “Trump”, and she comes with a dowry of several hundred millions and the chance to regularly dine at the White House in a year or so, she’s just completely out of her skull.
I have zero doubt that any number of PUAs will ride that, however, and put it away wet.
I am saddened for my civilization, and what’s left of it.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
They are all puppets. Ron Paul was the last guy who was really his own man. Proven from years in congress. Proven by the fact that he had his own private security to protect him, he denied government security. He was the last guy on this planet that had a chance who would have actually tried to steer this country in another direction.
Clinton? Bush? Trump? Sanders? Expect more of the same no matter which puppet gets in. Though I would take Sanders over Clinton and Trump over Bush.
While Milo’s intelligence and education helps him a great deal in his various beat downs of clueless feminazis, his most important weapon is his homosexual victim card.
The blubbering, bubble-headed, c~~~s Milo routinely out-thinks and out-debates aren’t able to employ their Because Vagina cards as a veto because Milo’s sexual preference trumps all.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
It’s been my experience that females in their mid- to late-thirties, even ones with children, experience a strong sex drive… so much so that I wonder if it was ever really absent to begin with,
I would propose that, on the whole, females desire sex just as much or more than men but their ability to use it as a tool to get a man to do what they want trumps their desire to have it with that man in the context of a relationship.
If you’re with a woman who is withholding sex from you, I would be willing to bet she’s got as high a drive as you do, just she’s expressing it somewhere else or with someone else. I have heard so many stories of females holding out on a guy who is in a position to produce material value for h while f~~~ing two or more other, less materially useful guys on the side to keep her hole filled that I would never trust a woman who says she simply does not want sex.
I would need extraordinary proof. I’m talking chastity belt level proof. That’s how little faith I have in anything females say or do.
While looking for work (I’ve been screwed by the job market for a long time), I will start an eBay business where I buy up computer parts, assemble it, and sell the finished machine on eBay. I love computers, electronics, assembling things (that includes 3D puzzles), and I want to learn to sell. I did my research and I can make good money doing it. I figure why should I struggle through application tests and job interviews just because I’m autistic, when I can do what I want to do, do it at home, and make money, and I can do it on my free time if I ever land a job again. So there’s the PC business.
Try again to locate a job. I came VERY close to landing a job at Best Buy last June. I would of had that job when they called and I didn’t miss the call. I didn’t know about them calling until after the filled the spot. I tried again to apply back in October for the holidays, but the manager told me because I didn’t answer the phone, they don’t want to give me another chance now but I can try again in the future. I HATE all managers especially female ones; just because I wasn’t there to answer his call, he acts like I don’t have a right to work and support myself.
Save money I make from the computer business and let it grow into something that I can buy a house. A few weeks ago, I was searching on realtor.com and I found 2 houses (one the same street) just 2 minutes away from where I live now. I fell in love with them both. It’s a bi-level house where I could have my Man Cave Arcade Room in the lower level, a master bedroom for myself, a second bedroom for my best friend, and the third bedroom would be a hobby room. Both houses are still for sale, but I highly doubt they will by the time I get there.
Vote for Trump in the Illinois Primary this March (I have to work the polls), and if he wins that, vote him for president next November.
Learn how to fix and sometimes rebuild electronic machines like arcade games. I saw on YouTube that it’s not that hard to do. The hardest part is getting the arcade cabinet to my house from miles away.
Go back to the gym and lose weight. My membership expired last month.
Resident Evil games are coming out in a few months, and I want to download it from the PSN and conquer them.
I’ve considered going back and getting my doctorate. The most difficult part of the work will not be my studies – most unis have dumbed things down rather a bit – but the Soviet Marxist dialectic that one must parrot while one is getting one’s doctorate. Universities, like all artifical monopolies, exist stuck in time in a largely failed organizational model. Because of the unresponsiveness to the actual market, we have the situation we have today: universities are places where social marxists go because they are incapable of working for anyone *but* the government. Campus intellectual life is . . . subdued . . . at this point, and the madness of a failed philosophy, really a failed religion and failed god, governs completely.
I’ve taught before (cheap labor being the keystone of the modern doctorate student), and in general found it to be almost exactly like teaching in the Soviet Union in the 70s: one must be very very careful who one trusts, and one can be denounced for disagreeing with the State. Classes become an exercise in going through textbooks and giving lectures on material that most students would be able to get . . . if they bothered reading textbooks. Part of the collapse of the uni system is grade inflation. By letting doctoral students and adjuncts at some universities teach a *majority* of the classes, of course, you instantly get grade inflation, as the goal of doctoral students and adjuncts is not to teach but simply to get one’s degree or to stay employed.
I’m amused by the graduates of our educational system. They know almost nothing, and their main skill is the “ability” to repeat 60s vaguely philosophical concepts whose background they’ve never learned and whose obvious failure they are unable to see. Most college degrees – and many graduate degrees – have almost no value.
Most frightening to me is that a remarkable number of graduates in letters / humanities do not actually have the ability to write coherently. Again, given the leveraged employment model of the modern universitybusiness, no one has time to grade papers for grammar, only for “content” (and not so much that, either). High schools don’t bother teaching this for similar reasons, compounded by socialism and artificial monopolies.
I often find Buchanan right on the money. I think he’s wrong in any number of ways as well, of course, but he has a pretty good sense of history and to where we’re going.
My money is on Sanders to take the election at this point. I can’t figure out whether he’ll be worse than another crony capitalist (Clinton, Bush, Obama) or not. Being of the tribes myself, I think that people are selling him far, far short on both intelligence and the ability to adhere to dogma. This is a man who is clearly familiar with Trotsky and the saints of Bolshevism, who knows his history and understands classic rhetoric.
On the flip side, it’s very clear that Trump has read Hitler. As a Jew, I applaud him, frankly. Hitler is worth reading; a brilliant man with some concepts (economics, treating Jews poorly) that I obviously disagree with.
"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."
I had a similar moment with a co worker who said mother’s day trumps Father’s Day to which I replied not when your mother runs off with another man when you are eight leaving your father to raise you. To which she could only reply,”Thats tragic”. Shut her up at least.
Pretty much since I was little I was raised to be a “white-knight” and more or less be a Tradcon. I grew up in a really rural area of the US and was introverted as f~~~ as kid. I tended to stay in my own little world playing video games and studying physics as well as computer science.
I was also really shy, even though I was a f~~~ing white knight at the time. I never really
dated because I was just too nervous and anxious even trying to ask a girl out.
So, I just did what pretty much every guy my age did, use porn. I did feel like I was missing out a lot on life when I did that, but the moment I actually did get into a group of friends my age, I started enjoying being single and still a virgin.
Most of the people in my group of friends might as well just had a big orgy together, because they were trading boyfriends and girlfriends left and right.
It was never ending. Most of the women in my group also started drama over stupid s~~~. I even heard one of them say once “I’d love it if I could see someone’s life destroyed, I love watching s~~~ like that”.
And, eventually, I ended up watching a lot of feminist/SJW nonsense on Youtube such as Anita Sarkeesian and ended up on Thunderf00t’s channel watching him criticize those c~~~s. And, in my blue pill years, I considered myself a hardcore democrat.
Now, I more or less consider myself an anarchist. I don’t even give a s~~~ if Trump becomes president. Hell, I’ll probably even vote for him for the laughs.
Not to mention I have a lot of survival skills growing up in the country. I know how to butcher any animal and clean fish. I know how to start fires from scratch and build log cabins from the ground up.
I even know how to hunt and track animals. The only reason I’m not ghosting right now is because I love technology way too much to do that. Ever since then, I some how found MGTOW through a random video on Youtube and here I am today.
I also plan on staying a virgin till I die. It’s not worth the risk of STDs, pregnancies, and getting accused of rape. I prefer porn anyway, at least that doesn’t nag you to death and spend your money.
I have often wondered why the feminist “leaders,” the ones who end up on TV panels, are so silent about the way the Muslim world treats its women. Everything a western feminist is supposed to stand for is forbidden in the Muslim world.
While we’re at it, why do our politicians seem so bound and determined to import Muslim ideals, laws, behavior into the West? These same politicians are always soliciting the women’s votes. Do they really want half of their power base to be forbidden the right to vote?
Politicians will always seek to enlarge their voter-base, even going to lengths to import people. Being shortsighted helps too, so when they set up the motion to import predominantly muslims, they undermine their own female voters.
-Muslims are mostly conservative, there are few that holds the same view as westerners when it comes to free speech etc. If they can’t stand cartoons… -Women have few ‘rights’ in muslim countries, eg. in Saudi-Arabia they aren’t allowed to drive. Only those with connections obviously will be allowed. -Muslims aren’t afraid to blow themselves up or to kill if they think they have a reason. Are feminists that brave? I don’t think so.
So, the future for women seems to be the Burka and the Niqab, and not to talk to men.
I have often wondered why the feminist “leaders,” the ones who end up on TV panels, are so silent about the way the Muslim world treats its women. Everything a western feminist is supposed to stand for is forbidden in the Muslim world.
While we’re at it, why do our politicians seem so bound and determined to import Muslim ideals, laws, behavior into the West? These same politicians are always soliciting the women’s votes. Do they really want half of their power base to be forbidden the right to vote?
Gentlemen the one sided mainstreamer view your propagating here is a message tuted from the trumpets of the same individuals you have f~~~ over our own countries. Are you truly so delusional you are incapable of picking up a history book? Are you truly so devoted to propagating your own enemies fallacies you turn allies into foes?
This will give the dramatic version of their history(muslims)
i see people repeatedly claiming saudi arabian wahhabism and its 20 various names it has because muslims consider each one of the names derogatory as all of islam……. if its all of islam than why does islam consider the names giving to this sect of islam derogatory.
look it up, they prefer to be called salafi(isis) but the muslim world calls them a list of names purposely to be derogatory to people who interpret the islamic scripture in such a contradictory way.
Wahhabi comes from the one who started the movement’s name was mohammed al bin saud so instead of calling it what he wanted mohammedanism, they used the his father’s last name to describe his movement/sect wahab. This is why the saudi sect is called the wahhabis, it’s a derogatory term labeled over traitors of islam.
The only problem with islam is the same problem that can happen with any group anywhere. go in any country, any nation, any religion……. find their most tyrannical criminals in their populations and give them all the money they need to wage whatever war they need to against any enemy you want them to.
The west has gone to the middle east and enabled the most tyrannical individuals to seize power when they had no opportunity before. Now those same tyrants the west has created finance the exact same behaviour in western nations.
Our terrorists helped theirs and now there’s are creating more in our homelands.(are you actually surprised) We fed a monster. We got a much larger monster.
It’s not a hard thing to do, nor does it speak to the entire population of 1.6 billion muslims. Can happen to every group, every neighbourhood, every country everywhere. All it takes is scum bags with too much money giving it to the most violent minority.
Just like when soros pumped millions into the radical black movements in the usa to get the entire country thinking all the black people were going to kill all the white people.
Just like rothschilds pumped millions into a small group of radical feminists so they could push whatever destructive legislation through they could conceive.
If you can’t see this pattern of criminals funding the criminals, market the criminals as the mass, divide the population, conquer while everyones back is turned, be ready to buy up all the pieces when it hits critical mass.
This so called horrible country with a horrible dictator(syrai) Happens to be the most moderate muslim country in the area, but we are trying to remove their own leader in the area who actually allows some form of freedom for his people.
Are we bombing saudi arabia? qatar? turkey? israel?
Nope these 4 countries are bombing neighbours around them every single day with the assistance of western military assets.
turkey and israel bombing syrian government, lebanon, palestine every single day for years and years. Saudi arabia and qatar, they have been bombing yemen for years now.
This is nothing more than genocide and every dollar of western money which goes there makes us accomplices to this racket.
You go tell the family who lives in the middle of butt f~~~ nowhere, asks nothing from no one, just wants to live a peaceful mediocre life that it’s their fault for being muslim when the murders carrying your guns, selling you oil, buying more weapons with your money, waging a jihad on all these muslims who get caught in the way.
I would like to see you do that, explain that to a father who just lost his wife and kids, explain that to a child who just lost their siblings and parents, explain that to a boy who has lost his entire tribe/family that it’s all their fault your henchmen found them.
This kinda s~~~, this is evil. The same way women say too f~~~ing bad to all the men who have,are and will become their victims……. too f~~~ing bad you were born with a penis it’s your fault. It’s your fault. That’s what you’re doing when you say its muslims fault, when it’s islam’s fault.
Your giving all those poor people the same f~~~ing excuses women give men.
Thank god Thanksgiving is over this year. Nothing worse than my dad’s side of the family consist of my VERY immature aunt and her 4 loud, obnoxious, controversial, conceded, overly Christian belief and argument teenage kids. A family just likes to act intolerant and stir up fights and arguments just for the sake of it. I hate my dad’s family! My aunt is 50 years old and still acts like a 10 year old with a laughing problem.
Even the Thanksgiving Day Parade on CBS was a drag. Nothing but reporters and commentators that won’t shut up for even 5 seconds, boring Broadway performances, too many TV ads, and not enough focus on the parade. It was so boring, I had to drift away and go online to watch Trump speeches on YouTube. At least that always makes me feel good. Trump for president 2016!
I’m just now worried about Christmas at my mothers. It doesn’t matter what, she loves to make me feel guilty by making me at fault for everything. She wants me to do things, but I don’t know that, she doesn’t want me to do something and I don’t know it, but I’m guilty of everything anyway and she nags to death about it. So Thanksgiving was a drag and so will Christmas.
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