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[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Trump has had a track record of affairs in the past.

No he doesn’t. He had one affair with whom would later become his second wife when he was with his first wife. That is not a track record. And even his first wife has come out in support for Trump for President.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Here is the thing, no matter how badly Hillary sucks, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t suck also.

Relativism, saying they are equally bad, has already been disprove.

Hillary has been shown in the Wikileaks e-mails to hate practically everyone and she has shown much malice towards the U.S. population. Her actions have brought suffering and death across the world for decades.

Meanwhile, Trump has been shown to like the U.S. population. And the only things beside false accusations the media has attack Trump with are statements that all men state, which Trump said in private, which were secretly recorded without his knowledge.

The media focuses on what Trump says (out of context) and not what Hillary does.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Faust For Science wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.

Those are also baseless accuations.

Meanwhile, Hillary funded and profited off of the creation of ISIS. She sold American uranium to the Russians. She basically gave an ambassadorship to anyone that would pay her between $500,000 to $2,000,000 dollars. It is looking like she blackmailed and bribed most of those in the government and the media. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

You are going to find that the Clintons like to falsely accuse their enemies of what the Clintons are guilty of.

Here is the thing, no matter how badly Hillary sucks, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t suck also. I personally am left with, “Ok, fine, Hillary sucks, but what does Trump have to offer?” And I am left with “Hillary sucks”. It is a case of trying to win by contrast and saying Trump is my only choice, if Hillary sucks. It doesn’t work that way. The reality is Trump has a number of issues that would end up not even making it close if he ran against anyone else. He would be losing worse than he is now. You can look up Trump’s issues, they are there. Trump has issues from the Trump Foundation, to his now defunct Trump University. And there are more.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Faust For Science wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things.

Single accusations with evidence. But, by piling one accusation after another, with no evidence and disproven statements, in a political charged situation, where those doing the accusing have connections to the accused rival, this quickly becomes seen as a wrongful witch hunt.

Trump has had a track record of affairs in the past. He did say what he said on the tape, and it fit what he said. He just dismissed it as talk, without any thought to conduct. He has a tendency to attack anything, even if it is true, if it goes against him, and does it in ways that that shows no regard for what he may of did wrong. He has no credibility making accusations or even denials now, and anything else that comes out, is a sign of something. That is just how it is with Trump, because of his screwed up past. He can’t even play the asking for forgiveness card either, because he keeps going back to this subject of sexual issues (pushing Bill as a predator, and Hillary as an enabler) and by constantly punching down. Forgiveness is foreign to Trump. He hasn’t even asked God for it. He just tries to do better, without God’s help.

The thing here also, is not all the charges coming out, or spotted, are tied to Hillary. Him making the comment to a 10 year old girl isn’t connected with Hillary at all.

Anyhow, the reality here is, this is what is being discussed, and will continue to be discussed. Trump lost control of the media, regarding this, and it keeps going on. He isn’t controlling the debate. To say it is because Hillary is controlling the media, is to do a “vast left wing conspiracy” thing that mirror’s Hillary’s comments.

The thing is these accusations are in keeping with who Trump is as a person, or at least portrayed himself in public, and he even said being famous means one can get away with it. There is a bunch others, and each accusation could be seen as piling on and a witch hunt, but Trump has said such was fair game anyhow:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-my-past-is-fair-game-217546

Saying “My past is fair game” is akin to what Gary Hart said about the media can follow him, and they did. This is the campaign Trump wanted and has been running. It is now on him. He brought it on himself, by saying what he did. He thought he could win pulling this, and having the campaign get in the mud. Now this is what is going on, and Trump is losing here.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things.

Single accusations with evidence. But, by piling one accusation after another, with no evidence and disproven statements, in a political charged situation, where those doing the accusing have connections to the accused rival, this quickly becomes seen as a wrongful witch hunt.

A simple check would have found that the phone number Jessica Leeds used as her own was a phone number to the Clinton Foundation. The media is not even trying to fact check. All they are doing is lying and falsely accusing, while seeing if anything sticks.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.

Those are also baseless accuations.

Meanwhile, Hillary funded and profited off of the creation of ISIS. She sold American uranium to the Russians. She basically gave an ambassadorship to anyone that would pay her between $500,000 to $2,000,000 dollars. It is looking like she blackmailed and bribed most of those in the government and the media. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.

You are going to find that the Clintons like to falsely accuse their enemies of what the Clintons are guilty of.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Faust For Science wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:

Actually, I watched Trump’s speeches today. Trump did not say that. All Trump said was the the Slim was in control of the New York Times part of the attacks on him, because Slim is making money from the misery of the American people, by NAFTA and other anti-American treaties agreements, and Slim does not want happy that Trump wants to get rid of NAFTA and other treaties which would cost Slim money.

Given the accusations by the NYTimes and others over these women have been proven false. Due to the women’s statements have been proven to have false claims. Trump has a right to politically attack Slim.

Instead of focusing on facts from Wikileaks about Hillary the media serves Hillary by creating and repeating these false accusations against Trump.

Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things. It leads in the news, because it gets views and eyeb~~~~, and it is what is remembered. Like, here is a test: Did Bill Clinton get in trouble for the sex stuff with Monica? That is what people remember. But that isn’t what it was for. It was for perjury and his denying it happened, and that being a lie. It wasn’t the sex act, but the denial, that got him in trouble. But it is the sex part that is remembered.

Get a sex scandal going, and you get rounds of jokes, gossip and all your candidate’s resources focused discussing that, instead of other things.

The thing is, Trump was trying to do this, with bringing out the accusers he dismissed years before, in order to try to generate news. But, that line of attack ended up focusing on him, and his denial is now causing a flood of accusers to come out, and discussion over whether or not they are lying. And it gets linked to his state in the polls now, so it keeps getting brought up. And now the Billy Bush tape is a turning point in the campaign, so it keeps getting brought up over and over and over again.

Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

The Moth Attracted to the Flame wrote:

Jan.Sobieski wrote:

The problem is no one cares.

Trump was mean to females.

It’s very sad. These people care about some offensive comments Trump made, on top of false rape allegations that magically appeared a month before the general election than the fact that this old bitch and her VP f~~~~~ stole the election and is the center of why ISIS, the migrant crisis, the destabilization in Libya and Haiti, the Democrats getting away with everything, and emails that were deleted yet important. He didn’t even make that comment when he was running for president.

This election is supposed to be about policy, not image.

I hope James O’Keefe releases a video of Clinton being racist. I’m just praying he delivers. I also hope those 33,000 emails are found.

When what you say ends up going into the realm of showing what your character is, and is reflective of what you have done in the past, then it isn’t just words. Trump has had a track record of doing things that would kill any other candidate’s chances. He is also not doing things demanded by other candidates, they have done, like release his tax returns. It isn’t just words. The words are seen as a reflection of his character, which many find horrible. The thing about the tape with Billy Bush, was that it wasn’t just the usual insulting that was done, but he said he couldn’t help himself, and he would put himself on women and kiss them, and those with fame can get away with anything, and he also said he hit on a married woman (while he was married).

With Trump, all he has is words, because he has a spotty business record, marked with a bunch of bankruptcies, and the lack of revealing of tax returns, isn’t clearing it up. One can point to some successes he has, but also a bunch that failed also. All Trump has now is words, and those words have turned off many, for a lot of reasons.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Here is another

Anonymous wrote:

Oh, I think Hillary will win Russky, but only because it is rigged. She was chosen long ago by those who do the choosing.

I live in a die hard blue state. No bumper stickers anywhere for either side. These people wanted Sanders. Rigged…

Here is another theory: Trump is a very flawed candidate that most people can’t stand. The bulk of the support is either irate at the political system, and desperate for any sort of change, or an immense dislike of Hillary that anyone (including Satan or Hitler or a giant meteor that would kill all life is seen as better than her). It isn’t just the system being rigged, but the reality that Trump is one of the most historically flawed candidates ever to run for president of the United States. And he has done things to REALLY tick off people. Think about how much Hillary is hated around here. Now multiple that time 5, and see what individuals think of Trump.

It is easier to just say everything is rigged, rather than look at how flawed Trump is and try to understand why people don’t like him.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:

Actually, I watched Trump’s speeches today. Trump did not say that. All Trump said was the the Slim was in control of the New York Times part of the attacks on him, because Slim is making money from the misery of the American people, by NAFTA and other anti-American treaties agreements, and Slim does not want happy that Trump wants to get rid of NAFTA and other treaties which would cost Slim money.

Given the accusations by the NYTimes and others over these women have been proven false. Due to the women’s statements have been proven to have false claims. Trump has a right to politically attack Slim.

Instead of focusing on facts from Wikileaks about Hillary the media serves Hillary by creating and repeating these false accusations against Trump.

As things race to the day of election in the United States for POTUS, as more and more things in October come out, there will be increasing spin to explain things and rationalize how they are. This spin is going to increase in speed, and complexity. You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/meet-donald-trump-s-new-target-mexican-billionaire-carlos-slim-n666326

Here is a more simple explanation for how things are: Donald Trump sucks. He is an individual with a checkered past, who doesn’t have any experience governing, and a lot hidden from public, some of which was exposed. He manages to use bravado to try to spin every one of his problems into strengths. In the latest round, he has had a number of issues around the area that can be spun as sexual scandal, but then he goes off and ties to say that Hillary is an enabler, and Bill is worse. There is more about his bankruptcies and more. The entire birther thing he pushed, also would of disqualified anyone else who doesn’t spin the way Donald does. Donald has the birther thing as his brand for awhile, and was associated with it. He did this, and he owned it. No matter who started it, he owned it.

This is the reality of Trump. He is a very flawed candidate, that against any other candidate but Hillary, would be losing far worse than he has been. As much as he may have valid issues, about how average Americans are losing due to globalization, and there is threats of ISIS, and so on, he is a very flawed candidate. Flat out, a theory to explain things, and why he has problems, is that he sucks.

By handling the things the way he did with the tape, he opened himself up to a piling on of accusers, which are going to cause mass distractions between now and election day. He said it was “locker room talk” and denied he never did anything, ever. He has other recordings in the past, from Howard Stern, and others, and even said if he ran for president, he would have problems with the media. Heck, even called accusers of Trump “losers” and “ugly” in the past. It is a past that can easily be brought up, and cause distractions, which cause the Hillary emails to not be noticed. The reality is the media goes all over sex scandals, because they generate news. This is more sexy than what is going on with Wall Street, and Hillary’s speech. It is what gets eyeb~~~~.

So, as much as there may be bias in the media, there is an easier explanation for a bulk of what is going on, and that is Trump sucks. Just because Hillary sucks also, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t also. And in contrast between the two, if you force it to be so (and say it is such), as can be seen in polling on disapproval, Trump is disliked more than Hillary at this time.

But, feel free to disagree.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Russky wrote:

FYI. Nobody in Russia is freaking out – it’s business as usual. They’re used to living under constant fear of US and NATO threatening war right on their borders.

The only place these Russian drills and what not are being reported – is western alternative media

Thank you for the information. It is nice to know there is at least one civilization acting like mature adults towards the situation.

Hillary is not claiming she was “trigger” in the second debate by Trump invading her “space”. But, the fact is Trump was standing in place, as Hillary walked over towards him: http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/10/14/hillary-trump-stalked-around-debate-stage/

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

These are the only elections Hillary ever won:
1) JFK Jr. conveniently died
2) Giuliani dropped out after scandal
3) The DNC cheated Bernie

The fact is Trump and his supporters have debunks these accusations within less than twenty-four hours of each accusation. And with each accuser, it becomes more clear this is a witch hunt based on lies. And at the rate it is going this will eventually politically harm her before Nov 8th.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Hilary just destroyed Bills presidential / political legacy.
And in the same process…. her own.

I agree.

I do not see a real win for her.

Even if they successfully rig the election for her, and she is able to stop the fury of the people. That is a big “if”. Epecically considering half the nation she considers irredeemable deplorables chant “lock her up”. And it has come out that she considers her supporters to be a “bucket of losers” and she hate Catholics.

She has used her most powerful tool the media in such a way as to destroy the media. The drudge report is now get more views a day than most of the new stations get a day. The media has run itself into the ground.

The wikileaks and other leaks will leave her without any respect both from within and without the nation.

Even within government the rank and file detest her. Even if she wins, something is going to give.

The corrupt have nothing left. The light of day has been shown on their crimes. They have lost control of the narrative. They are only in control through rigging of the rules, and that will not last long.

I believe she and her upper level subordinates are trying to start World War III to avoid the wrath of the people by getting us all kills. And because they think they can survive the war and when they come out of their bunkers, the world can be rebuilt. They forget that even if the world does recover, without us there will be no one to build the world. At least on their side.

Meanwhile, the Russians are preparing their population for nuclear war. And so is China. But, with survive. And if possible the Russians and Chinese will be waiting outside to greet them with in likely the most unpleasant of terms.

It is more than likely a nuclear war will kill off the world. If the nuclear weapons do not do the job. The hundreds of nuclear reactors that are left unattended will go into meltdown and do the job. Keep in mind that four nuclear reactors is all it took to wreck the Pacific Ocean.

This might all happen before the election. Though, even if Trump wins, this will likely blow long before he can makes it to the White House.

What concerns me most about this is the U.S. media is barely talking about what the possibility of nuclear war. Their silences adds to the validity that this is actually going to happen, instead of just saber rattling.

I am hoping there are still a few of those in the U.S. military that will stop this before it is too late. Because there is no one else in the chain of command that can do so in time.

Personally, if I have time to decide. Which I doubt we will be told before the bombs reach us. I will likely walk outside and face oblivion head on. Instead of foolishly huddling in a home, hoping to survive the blasts. Because I know the harshness of after the war. And I would just rather check out than live in such a barren world, and take my chances in the afterlife.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I have $20 on Trump.

Hilary has munched more pussy than Bill.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2424555/Bill-Clintons-mistress-Gennifer-Flowers-Wed-today-wasnt-Chelsea.html

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/721008/Russia-America-nuclear-war-Putin-Obama-bunker-fallout-shelter-Syria-Bashar-al-Assad

Russia probably figures these corrupt individuals in D.C. are going to push the button no matter what because more and more of their crimes are coming to light with Wikileaks and other groups releasing information.

Their propaganda machine the media has destroyed their credibility with one false accusation against Trump after another while ignoring Wikileaks and other damning evidence. The people are looking at Wikileaks not the lies against Trump: http://www.infowars.com/google-trends-shows-internet-users-far-more-interested-in-wikileaks-than-trump-allegations/

To make matters worse, the media refuses to report on this, except in the most broad of terms, with no details. The media does not report we are getting closer to nuclear war because those pushing humanity to the brink are in D.C., and running for the presidency, and such report would make the corrupt look bad before the election.

And the corrupt cannot rig the election to the point it is believable. The U.S. population will reach a breaking point if Trump is robbed of the election. http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-14/elite-have-no-idea-society-near-breaking-point

The corrupt look to be working towards World War III because they know their actions are leading to an open revolt.

What a legacy these corrupt monsters bring in destroying humanity and the world. And there will be no one left to record the event.

While I would like for the world to burn. This is only because I want to see new growth for humanity. Instead of the slow rotting stagnation we have of this current society. Nuclear fallout was toxify the earth and water to the point nearly everything will die and nothing new will grow for thousands of years. This is not what I want.

[sidecarParticipant]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Therefore, better to have Hillary get the blame and let responsible Conservative/Libertarian types pick up the pieces later.

The problem is the “responsible conservative / libertarian types”…

…aren’t.

The republicans have no more interest in solving problems, ending corruption, or getting a handle on our spiraling down the bowl economy than the democrats. They just want to be the ones who get to sign the checks. Look at how they kept raising the debt ceiling over and over and over.

That’s why they are sooo upset over Trump’s nomination. He might actually fix s~~~, and then nobody will get to sign big checks.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

The problem is no one cares.

Trump was mean to females.

It’s very sad. These people care about some offensive comments Trump made, on top of false rape allegations that magically appeared a month before the general election than the fact that this old bitch and her VP f~~~~~ stole the election and is the center of why ISIS, the migrant crisis, the destabilization in Libya and Haiti, the Democrats getting away with everything, and emails that were deleted yet important. He didn’t even make that comment when he was running for president.

This election is supposed to be about policy, not image.

I hope James O’Keefe releases a video of Clinton being racist. I’m just praying he delivers. I also hope those 33,000 emails are found.

[Anonymous]

Big Boss wrote:

I think Trump has in his power the ability for a coup d’etat. And frankly, he should consider it instead of going back to his old life. Probably a better option that total destruction of the US in a World War.

The USA would be destroyed in the nuclear war. It’s strange how some dumb people say stupid comments like ‘f~~~ yeah, bring it on’ when talking about nuclear war. Sure, Russia would be destroyed, but so would Washington, New York, Los Angeles, and most of the United States as we know it.

There are no winners in the nuclear war.

[Big BossParticipant]

I think Trump has in his power the ability for a coup d’etat. And frankly, he should consider it instead of going back to his old life. Probably a better option that total destruction of the US in a World War.

[Anonymous]

Samsquanch wrote:

Just have a feeling no matter who wins the election, there will be increased civil unrest.

I agree. If Trump wins, the RINOs, neocons, radical left and the free s~~~ army will go berzerk.

If Killery wins, I will enter full civil disobedience mode. I simply will not recognize a woman who has committed countless felonies as a “leader”.

[MgtowWaveParticipant]

I have been an idiot and done mostly construction .

Screwed up opportunitys to learn a trade.

My fault.

Its true that a lot of the guys i work with are Chads.

Some real dummies.

I know a lot of guys who will never be able to have a drivers licence because they are so far behind in child support.

A lot of the guys i have met are really dumb.

They can frame or lay blocks but forget trying to have an intellegent conversation with them.

Below that are many who are so dumb that even being semi skilled like being a good carpenders helper or masons helper is beyond them.

Many i have met have spent years in prison.

It usto be that even the lowiest ditch digger made more to start than the guy flipping burgers at mcdonalds.

A lot of construction is God Damned dangerous.

I have met men with premanent injury and damage from things like hot tar and high voltage.

I had to get stitches a few times.

Was an electricans apprentice years ago and heard my forman scream while he being shocked.

I quit a few days later.

Dont get me wrong I have met and worked with guys who are just decent people.A lot.

There are some reguluar family guys who just want to work and take care of their family.

But i dont think they are the majority today.

Guys tried to talk me out of getting married.An old carpender in particular.

Wishd the hell id listened to him.

Construction is one of the first industrys to go s~~~sville in a recession.

Hurricane Andrew was a blessing.
Hurricane Ike was a bigger blessing.

They helped me get back on my feet again for a while.

There were recessions during the time of both George Bushes.

Made things a bit difficult.

And there are always f~~~ers like Trump who can squirrel out of paying you.

Happened to me a few times.

A lot if not most of the construction is being taken over by guys
from Mexico.

My best advice is if you want to go into the trades is Trade School.From When you are young.

Carpendenry.
Masonry.
Heavy equipment.
Electrical.
Plumbing.
Mchanics.
Roofing.
Welding.

There are many.Some good .Some not so good.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn