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As things race to the day of election in the United States for POTUS, as more and more things in October come out, there will be increasing spin to explain things and rationalize how they are. This spin is going to increase in speed, and complexity. You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/meet-donald-trump-s-new-target-mexican-billionaire-carlos-slim-n666326Here is a more simple explanation for how things are: Donald Trump sucks. He is an individual with a checkered past, who doesn’t have any experience governing, and a lot hidden from public, some of which was exposed. He manages to use bravado to try to spin every one of his problems into strengths. In the latest round, he has had a number of issues around the area that can be spun as sexual scandal, but then he goes off and ties to say that Hillary is an enabler, and Bill is worse. There is more about his bankruptcies and more. The entire birther thing he pushed, also would of disqualified anyone else who doesn’t spin the way Donald does. Donald has the birther thing as his brand for awhile, and was associated with it. He did this, and he owned it. No matter who started it, he owned it.
This is the reality of Trump. He is a very flawed candidate, that against any other candidate but Hillary, would be losing far worse than he has been. As much as he may have valid issues, about how average Americans are losing due to globalization, and there is threats of ISIS, and so on, he is a very flawed candidate. Flat out, a theory to explain things, and why he has problems, is that he sucks.
By handling the things the way he did with the tape, he opened himself up to a piling on of accusers, which are going to cause mass distractions between now and election day. He said it was “locker room talk” and denied he never did anything, ever. He has other recordings in the past, from Howard Stern, and others, and even said if he ran for president, he would have problems with the media. Heck, even called accusers of Trump “losers” and “ugly” in the past. It is a past that can easily be brought up, and cause distractions, which cause the Hillary emails to not be noticed. The reality is the media goes all over sex scandals, because they generate news. This is more sexy than what is going on with Wall Street, and Hillary’s speech. It is what gets eyeb~~~~.
So, as much as there may be bias in the media, there is an easier explanation for a bulk of what is going on, and that is Trump sucks. Just because Hillary sucks also, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t also. And in contrast between the two, if you force it to be so (and say it is such), as can be seen in polling on disapproval, Trump is disliked more than Hillary at this time.
But, feel free to disagree.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:
Actually, I watched Trump’s speeches today. Trump did not say that. All Trump said was the the Slim was in control of the New York Times part of the attacks on him, because Slim is making money from the misery of the American people, by NAFTA and other anti-American treaties agreements, and Slim does not want happy that Trump wants to get rid of NAFTA and other treaties which would cost Slim money.
Given the accusations by the NYTimes and others over these women have been proven false. Due to the women’s statements have been proven to have false claims. Trump has a right to politically attack Slim.
Instead of focusing on facts from Wikileaks about Hillary the media serves Hillary by creating and repeating these false accusations against Trump.
You saw a latest round where Carlos Slim is pegged as the mastermind behind Trump’s woes:
Actually, I watched Trump’s speeches today. Trump did not say that. All Trump said was the the Slim was in control of the New York Times part of the attacks on him, because Slim is making money from the misery of the American people, by NAFTA and other anti-American treaties agreements, and Slim does not want happy that Trump wants to get rid of NAFTA and other treaties which would cost Slim money.
Given the accusations by the NYTimes and others over these women have been proven false. Due to the women’s statements have been proven to have false claims. Trump has a right to politically attack Slim.
Instead of focusing on facts from Wikileaks about Hillary the media serves Hillary by creating and repeating these false accusations against Trump.
Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things. It leads in the news, because it gets views and eyeb~~~~, and it is what is remembered. Like, here is a test: Did Bill Clinton get in trouble for the sex stuff with Monica? That is what people remember. But that isn’t what it was for. It was for perjury and his denying it happened, and that being a lie. It wasn’t the sex act, but the denial, that got him in trouble. But it is the sex part that is remembered.
Get a sex scandal going, and you get rounds of jokes, gossip and all your candidate’s resources focused discussing that, instead of other things.
The thing is, Trump was trying to do this, with bringing out the accusers he dismissed years before, in order to try to generate news. But, that line of attack ended up focusing on him, and his denial is now causing a flood of accusers to come out, and discussion over whether or not they are lying. And it gets linked to his state in the polls now, so it keeps getting brought up. And now the Billy Bush tape is a turning point in the campaign, so it keeps getting brought up over and over and over again.
Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things.
Single accusations with evidence. But, by piling one accusation after another, with no evidence and disproven statements, in a political charged situation, where those doing the accusing have connections to the accused rival, this quickly becomes seen as a wrongful witch hunt.
A simple check would have found that the phone number Jessica Leeds used as her own was a phone number to the Clinton Foundation. The media is not even trying to fact check. All they are doing is lying and falsely accusing, while seeing if anything sticks.
Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.
Those are also baseless accuations.
Meanwhile, Hillary funded and profited off of the creation of ISIS. She sold American uranium to the Russians. She basically gave an ambassadorship to anyone that would pay her between $500,000 to $2,000,000 dollars. It is looking like she blackmailed and bribed most of those in the government and the media. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.
You are going to find that the Clintons like to falsely accuse their enemies of what the Clintons are guilty of.
Sex scandals end up doing far more and are remembered more than other things.
Single accusations with evidence. But, by piling one accusation after another, with no evidence and disproven statements, in a political charged situation, where those doing the accusing have connections to the accused rival, this quickly becomes seen as a wrongful witch hunt.
Trump has had a track record of affairs in the past. He did say what he said on the tape, and it fit what he said. He just dismissed it as talk, without any thought to conduct. He has a tendency to attack anything, even if it is true, if it goes against him, and does it in ways that that shows no regard for what he may of did wrong. He has no credibility making accusations or even denials now, and anything else that comes out, is a sign of something. That is just how it is with Trump, because of his screwed up past. He can’t even play the asking for forgiveness card either, because he keeps going back to this subject of sexual issues (pushing Bill as a predator, and Hillary as an enabler) and by constantly punching down. Forgiveness is foreign to Trump. He hasn’t even asked God for it. He just tries to do better, without God’s help.
The thing here also, is not all the charges coming out, or spotted, are tied to Hillary. Him making the comment to a 10 year old girl isn’t connected with Hillary at all.
Anyhow, the reality here is, this is what is being discussed, and will continue to be discussed. Trump lost control of the media, regarding this, and it keeps going on. He isn’t controlling the debate. To say it is because Hillary is controlling the media, is to do a “vast left wing conspiracy” thing that mirror’s Hillary’s comments.
The thing is these accusations are in keeping with who Trump is as a person, or at least portrayed himself in public, and he even said being famous means one can get away with it. There is a bunch others, and each accusation could be seen as piling on and a witch hunt, but Trump has said such was fair game anyhow:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/donald-trump-my-past-is-fair-game-217546Saying “My past is fair game” is akin to what Gary Hart said about the media can follow him, and they did. This is the campaign Trump wanted and has been running. It is now on him. He brought it on himself, by saying what he did. He thought he could win pulling this, and having the campaign get in the mud. Now this is what is going on, and Trump is losing here.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Heck, this entire thing is overshadowing a lot of other issues about Trump the media could focus on, like his said illegal deals with Cuba, and other things that popped up. Sex scandal stuff will do that, particularly when it is a new accuser coming out.
Those are also baseless accuations.
Meanwhile, Hillary funded and profited off of the creation of ISIS. She sold American uranium to the Russians. She basically gave an ambassadorship to anyone that would pay her between $500,000 to $2,000,000 dollars. It is looking like she blackmailed and bribed most of those in the government and the media. And that is only the tip of the iceberg.
You are going to find that the Clintons like to falsely accuse their enemies of what the Clintons are guilty of.
Here is the thing, no matter how badly Hillary sucks, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t suck also. I personally am left with, “Ok, fine, Hillary sucks, but what does Trump have to offer?” And I am left with “Hillary sucks”. It is a case of trying to win by contrast and saying Trump is my only choice, if Hillary sucks. It doesn’t work that way. The reality is Trump has a number of issues that would end up not even making it close if he ran against anyone else. He would be losing worse than he is now. You can look up Trump’s issues, they are there. Trump has issues from the Trump Foundation, to his now defunct Trump University. And there are more.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Trump has had a track record of affairs in the past.
No he doesn’t. He had one affair with whom would later become his second wife when he was with his first wife. That is not a track record. And even his first wife has come out in support for Trump for President.
Here is the thing, no matter how badly Hillary sucks, it doesn’t mean Trump doesn’t suck also.
Relativism, saying they are equally bad, has already been disprove.
Hillary has been shown in the Wikileaks e-mails to hate practically everyone and she has shown much malice towards the U.S. population. Her actions have brought suffering and death across the world for decades.
Meanwhile, Trump has been shown to like the U.S. population. And the only things beside false accusations the media has attack Trump with are statements that all men state, which Trump said in private, which were secretly recorded without his knowledge.
The media focuses on what Trump says (out of context) and not what Hillary does.
Trump has had a track record of affairs in the past.
No he doesn’t. He had one affair with whom would later become his second wife when he was with his first wife. That is not a track record. And even his first wife has come out in support for Trump for President.
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Meanwhile, Trump has been shown to like the U.S. population. And the only things beside false accusations the media has attack Trump with are statements that all men state, which Trump said in private, which were secretly recorded without his knowledge.
The media focuses on what Trump says (out of context) and not what Hillary does.
As I stated before, Hillary is irrelevant to whether or not Trump sucks. It also doesn’t matter what the media does or doesn’t do or say about Trump that governs whether or not he sucks. I do have issues here of quoting or posting anything, because it instantly gets attacked as “biased” and discounted, because of this narrative that ANYTHING reported against Trump is OBVIOUSLY bias. This perception makes it impossible to discuss Trump.
What I will say is that if you think ALL men are going about saying the things Trump did regarding hitting on married women, you are playing into the same BS narrative feminists do, particular one article that had men spy on other men. Like in this article:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/10/08/many-men-talk-like-donald-trump-in-private-and-only-other-men-can-stop-them/?utm_term=.90401fc0ed0bDo you talk like Trump on how you try to sleep with married women? If all men do, then you do, and I do. Tell me which of these you have every said:
Trump (said while he was married): I did try and f~~~ her. She was married.
Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.
Trump: Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.
You had said these? How many men you know talk like this? Only place I remotely hear talk like this is in PUA circles. It is likely Roosh V talked like that in one of his videos and seminars.
I can say one time in my life I kinda heard stuff like that in person. It was at a party I was at, and a guy wanted to make moves on a woman there he had the hots for awhile. He ended up raping her in the other room, which became apparently later to me in retrospect.
Here is a thing, you can “all men talk like that” but then ask yourself if you do. Find me a man who will admit talking the way Trump did. Hell, I will post on the general forum here and see who has talked like that.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Donald Trump and Hilary Clinton are lost at sea in a small boat together. Who gets saved?
America.
This is a pointless argument. They are both crooks. You cannot run for president unless you are a con man (or woman). Though I would say Hillary already has a long criminal political record. Whereas Trump is lying businessman.
Anonymous24Trump sucks.
Clinton blows.
I am voting Johnson, but if I were to chose between Trump and Clinton? Trump hands down. Clinton is a mass murdering war hawk who is the heart of the beast. Time for a new monster at the very least.
Anonymous0You act as if experience is required for the White House. That is political dogma garbage that keeps career corrupt politicians in office and citizens who want to do more out. Not even relating that to the orginal post. That stands alone. There is enough support staff an inteligent citizen running for president doing as much resaerch as he could would be ok and this experience myth the policians wriggle in front of you like a worm in front of a fish would go poof. More often than not the experince excuse is just used to keep the dogma of Washington intact, leaving the people still yet excluded from their governent.
So relating to your actual post. They both suck, however you are spewing the same things about Trump as the media without second guessing those sources. Have you not noticed the huge slant that is reported on him? The media is definatly imtertwined with the political parties, usuay the left so no big surprise there.
Career politicans have to be corrupt as hell to get where they are now. And I am sure Trump is no exception. You do not become a multi-billionaire without getting your hands dirty. You are complaining about the same dirty laundry that all the politicans have too. Trumps is just being cast into the spotlight heavily thanks to the leftist oppresive media thought control groups. All the major media in the USA is owned by four parent companies.
Freedom of the press my ass.
Trump sucks.
Clinton blows.
I am voting Johnson, but if I were to chose between Trump and Clinton? Trump hands down. Clinton is a mass murdering war hawk who is the heart of the beast. Time for a new monster at the very least.
Feel the Johnson!:p
Anyhow, I am not sure a point of playing pick one of two, unless it is an exercise in values clarification for personal use. Standards slip when there are only two choices.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
Here is a more simple explanation for how things are: Donald Trump sucks.
So what? Trumps a piece of s~~~ bad person. So what? I’m a big ass hole! So what? Shame Donald, shame, shame, shame, shame….
Hillary Clinton hates MEN!
Peace brothers
Here is a more simple explanation for how things are: Donald Trump sucks.
So what? Trumps a piece of s~~~ bad person. So what? I’m a big ass hole! So what? Shame Donald, shame, shame, shame, shame….
Hillary Clinton hates MEN!
Let’s vote for Johnson and hand the election to a man hating, mass murdering, feminist bitch.
Sure. That sounds like a good plan.
OP and his ilk sound well brainwashed by the msm.
Even on this forum.
What the f~~~ is wrong with people!
Monk
Anonymous24Let’s vote for Johnson and hand the election to a man hating, mass murdering, feminist bitch.
I hear ya, if I lived in a battleground state I would vote Trump.
Also, I see no evidence at this point that there is any difference between the two parties. In fact, they should just merge and call themselves the Corporate Israeli Banker’s War Party at this point.
Let’s vote for Johnson and hand the election to a man hating, mass murdering, feminist bitch.
I hear ya, if I lived in a battleground state I would vote Trump.
Also, I see no evidence at this point that there is any difference between the two parties. In fact, they should just merge and call themselves the Corporate Israeli Banker’s War Party at this point.
About parties 100% correct. Israeli controlled do not agree.
Dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go, be what you want to be. Because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do.
Here is a more simple explanation for how things are: Donald Trump sucks.
So what? Trumps a piece of s~~~ bad person. So what? I’m a big ass hole! So what? Shame Donald, shame, shame, shame, shame….
Hillary Clinton hates MEN!
Let’s vote for Johnson and hand the election to a man hating, mass murdering, feminist bitch.
Sure. That sounds like a good plan.
OP and his ilk sound well brainwashed by the msm.
Even on this forum.
What the f~~~ is wrong with people!
+1. could not said it better myself.
Dream what you want to dream, go where you want to go, be what you want to be. Because you have only one life and one chance to do all the things you want to do.
Anonymous24About parties 100% correct. Israeli controlled do not agree.
You must be watching too many cartoons. Jewish Influence in politics and full circle in the U.S. is astonishing considering their two percent population.
You don’t see us doing much to stop genocides in West Africa over the years, but anything near or around Israel we destroy for just about any reason, in fact, we create and back the reasons and fabricate lies to justify what we do.
Anonymous24Oh, and nobody gets elected without bowing to AIPAC. And he (in this case she) who bows the hardest gets nearly all media backing. Clinton rattled the sabre pretty hard at Iran during the AIPAC summit that both she and Trump attended. Sanders did not attend. Jewish DNC Chair Wasserman Schultz leads rigging to push Clinton through over Sanders who did not bow.
Democrats Keep Party Rigged With Wasserman Schultz Victory
Rigged Debates: Wikileaks Emails Confirm Media in Clinton’s Pocket
Fact of the matter is Clinton was chosen long ago. Nothing will stop her. The entire corrupt machine is behind her.
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