Your purpose in life and the brainwashing.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

I will say nihilism is just a bulls~~~ shamming language that the matrix tried to subvert the man purpose for the matrix purpose.

The matrix tried to make “Nihilism” seem like a bad thing, but is a state where the man realize the matrix purpose is bulls~~~ and cast off of that purpose, but have not rediscovered his own purpose.

Men forget his original purpose. The purpose you have the day you are born. In fact it is in everyone, only they forget that.

Everyone purpose is to maximize happiness and minimize suffering, in a constant flux.

Look within yourself.
Why do you sit?
Because standing is tiring. Standing is suffering and sitting is happiness.

Why do you stand up now? I thought standing is tiring?
Because sitting too long make my body ache and dull, I cannot stand it anymore. Sitting is suffering now and standing and running is happiness.

Why you stop running and lie down now?
Because to keep on running is too exhausting, I need to sleep. Running is suffering now and sleeping is happiness.

Why don’t you keep sleeping? Ain’t sleeping happiness.
Because I sleep too long and am bored to death. Sleeping is suffering now and doing something is happiness.

On and on it goes, in a never ending pursuit of happiness and avoidance of suffering. Until you reach a point in life where you ability to pursue happiness is diminish. You will make what best of your ability until death release.

Why matrix do that? because men pursuit generate energy.
A river provides kinetic energy, harness the river with a dam and you generate electricity. In man pursuit of happiness and fleeing from suffering, he does activity that could build civilization, advance technology, reshape the surface of the world.

The matrix want to harness this great energy. There is nothing wrong for the matrix to tap in this energy as long as it give man a fair reward for his labors. However to give reward for man toil means less energy for the matrix, but without reward men will no longer generate energy. So the matrix explore ways to maximize man generation and minimize reward.

First the matrix have to brainwash men from their original purpose. From the tender years they need to twist men from their original purpose to the matrix purpose.

It begin with the carrot and stick. The carrot offer happiness and the stick suffering, it is in line with men purpose of chasing happiness and escaping suffering so it is effective.

However it start to make something else to replace men original purpose. Like the Pavlov dog experiment, the ringing bell make the dog drool even when there is no food.

First the teacher / parents / elders would cane you, grounded you, bar your access to your hobbies to let you know their disapproval means suffering. You will be rewarded with praise, high marks, sweets, toys if you earn their approval.

By itself there is nothing wrong as a child need to learn discipline and skills to survive in the future. However there is when the first disconnect to men original purpose begins.

The approval and disapproval becomes synonyms with happiness and suffering. You think you need others validation even when you become an adult who can survive without validation.

Then we are taught delay gratification. By itself there is nothing wrong. You suffer a bit for greater happiness in the future. However it make men instead of escaping from suffering, men will seek suffering if he thinks it is worth it. Then we are taught to work for a probability. If I train hard at tennis I may win the Championship and get a reward.

Working for a probability is nothing wrong by itself, While there is no guaranty, if you put in effort you will always have a higher chance of achieving something. Working for a probability may be worthwhile if the odds are good, Even if you don’t win the championship your body is healthy and you have fun.
However there is only one seat for champion out of many contestant so the odds are against you, but you are train to ignore the probability and focus on the winner.
Later in life it become like just look at the winning gambler, ignore the many losers, Do this for the woman, and you might get pussy. The matrix will be able to move men without guarantying a reward.

Then you are thought not to think, not to question with the power of validation. You should marry because it is the right thing to do. It is tradition. Mankind need to procreate.
You should do this in the name of justice. They are evil, you should fight them. How dare you question, shame on you. Don’t you love me?

Since men had been train that validation governs his happiness and suffering, he will do something against his self interest, even it means chasing suffering and avoiding happiness. Because rational thinking has been supplanted and validation becomes his happiness and suffering.Before the divorce raping undo the brainwashing, how many men actually given thought to the reality of marriage?

Then there is a twisting of morals and justice.
In the beginning morals is a tool to help men chase happiness and avoid suffering.
The right to kill don’t outweigh the bliss of not needing to check over ones shoulder now and then for his possible killer.
The right to steal means nothing because once he leave his cave or tree, all his possessions will be appropriated by others. He will have no wealth.
The right to lie means nothing when he cannot get the correct information on dangerous ground, fruitful hunting place, poison food.

All the original moral help man make a bigger cake with others that even if he have to share it with others, his share is even bigger then the cake wholly own by him if he make it himself. The original moral provide more happiness then suffering.Then these morals are obeyed for so long that it become tradition, religion, morals that people do not question, or forgotten the original purpose of its creation.

Then the matrix use morals as a way to give less rewards to men. It add more things to the moral code that will not give more happiness then suffering. The added moral code compel men to generate energy for free. Men should sacrifice for women and children.You should stay and die in the Titanic. You should fight the elites wars or I will make the women pin a white feather on you.There is oil weapons of mass destruction there so you should sacrifice for your country. What homeless veteran, I need to give this millions to the Muslim terrorist, you wanting compensation is committing thought crime. Validation is a good enough reward.

The height of brainwashing should be the suicide bomber. In that name of god you strap this bomb on your waist, then go in that building and pull the trigger. You will have 32 virgins waiting for you in paradise.

When the matrix has supplant men original purpose, it is able to make men generate energy for free, or cheap. However morals can only go so far, not everyone can generate free energy with morals alone. so the matrix use morals, religion, tradition to make men marry.

The matrix likes men getting married because men will take up a burden freeing up more resource for itself, the wife will administer suffering to the man if he don’t generate energy for the matrix, the wife will generate fleeting happiness to the man so he is motivated to work for the matrix. And the wife will pump the rewards the man earn back to the matrix. So the man will work long and hard generating energy. And the matrix have more new little slaves out of the bargain. Such efficient energy management.

However in the matrix endless pursuit to maximize energy generation, it tried to make the wife generate energy as much as the man. In this experiment it overwork the hallucination induction unit and the men become awake.

Now that you have a glimpse in the matrix and your own purpose, what will you do?

The matrix is not evil, it just is. It is that matrix nature to enslave and harness energy, you need certain elements of the matrix. So it is up to you to find a way to exchange required elements from the matrix without too high a price. Or to find a new matrix. Or wait for the rebuilding of the matrix or find a way without depending on the matrix.

You have this hunger to chase happiness and avoid suffering. Can you feed the hunger with less material? Can you attain happiness with a snap of your fingers? You should be able, since your probably did it before. In your blue pill days you ignore all the warning signs and your own situation and think it of happiness. Until the divorce make you unable to pretend anymore. So if you earn enough that you do not need to work anymore that your basic necessary is covered, you are able to snap your fingers and set your own mind in the happy state.

How will your purpose in life be sated?

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[bstoffParticipant 4863]

I need a TL/DR version

[Sky-OParticipant 18936]

I need to take another bong hit after reading all of that.

[ChristopherParticipant 2478]

Good post Gnostic.

The matrix is a global power game in which mens’ energy is used as a mere utility.

A MGTOW takes ‘whatever’ path he wishes. The result can be greater freedom/independence, knowledge of life and often greater peace/happiness. A first step may include ditching a nagging narcistic girlfriend and all narcs and bulls~~~ media from your life.

A more spiritual life has brought benefits in my journey (for me spiritual life is definitely not the same as a religion. Institional religion can often be another part of the global power game of control.)

Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

[Branched offParticipant 10928]

“Everyone purpose is to maximize happiness and minimize suffering, in a constant flux.”

This is very Epicurean.

Epicurus was a very wise guy -formulated the idea of the atom a long long time before science.

I always think women can never make Epicureans. For example Epicurus taught that since ultimately a meal of simple, healthy, wholesome food is as satisfying to your belly as a fancy meal, the simple one is to be desired more as it can be achieved with less hassle/cost -less suffering more happiness. This sort of thinking goes right against the grain for women. They would sooner starve themselves for days and then dress up in all sorts of uncomfortable clothing and get taken miles to a fancy restaurant so they put photos of themselves and all they eat on facebook to show off their status to their rivals (so called friends).

I am sure women invented “The Matrix” to get men to slave away to fulfill their desire to have one up on other women through the use of men’s energy.

The solution is to simplify to what makes you happy in the long term, everything else (practically everything the modern woman wants) is background noise to be ignored.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

bstoff wrote:

I need a TL/DR version

Well it is long because I elaborate a lot of proof / how that I come to this logical conclusion. Take them out and it becomes.

1. Everyone purpose is to maximize happiness and minimize suffering, in a constant flux.

2. In the pursuit of this purpose a lot of energy / resources is generated.

3. The matrix want to tap into this energy, and want to do it cheaply. So it uses various method to maximize your energy generation and service life. Matrix brainwash men to generate energy for free.

4. The matrix gone too far and men woke up. Men begins to question are there less costly ways to get what the matrix offers. How to better feed their pursuit of happiness and avoidance of suffering.

How do you best go your own way that you know this?

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Branched off wrote:

“Everyone purpose is to maximize happiness and minimize suffering, in a constant flux.”

This is very Epicurean.

Epicurus was a very wise guy -formulated the idea of the atom a long long time before science.

I always think women can never make Epicureans. For example Epicurus taught that since ultimately a meal of simple, healthy, wholesome food is as satisfying to your belly as a fancy meal, the simple one is to be desired more as it can be achieved with less hassle/cost -less suffering more happiness. This sort of thinking goes right against the grain for women. They would sooner starve themselves for days and then dress up in all sorts of uncomfortable clothing and get taken miles to a fancy restaurant so they put photos of themselves and all they eat on facebook to show off their status to their rivals (so called friends).

I am sure women invented “The Matrix” to get men to slave away to fulfill their desire to have one up on other women through the use of men’s energy.

The solution is to simplify to what makes you happy in the long term, everything else (practically everything the modern woman wants) is background noise to be ignored.

“Everyone purpose is to maximize happiness and minimize suffering, in a constant flux.”

I think this is the observable truth. Every action we take is to service this purpose. Even simple action like scratch your head, blink your eyes, breathing is to service this purpose.

But there are actions that can achieve this easily and there are actions that are tough. Like buying a yacht. I have to do a s~~~ ton of work, sacrifice, debts to attain that. I suffer more. So I prefer things that let me achieve this chemical high easily. I should earn enough passive income that my basic necessity is met and them cut off all external things that can disturb by happiness.

Then I think I can achieve this chemical high through sheer force of will. The happy state is just an arrangement of electro chemistry in the brain. Other people has attain it before. In their blue pill days they maintain a happy state by shutting off all external information that their sleeping beauty is actually the wicket witch for a time until a strong enough external influence like divorce happen.

So my goal becomes to attain a material condition that negative external influence can hardly occur and my mental strength becomes strong enough that external influence hardly move me.

I think in MGTOW terms that is economic freedom and no f~~~s given mentality.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Gnostic wrote:

How will your purpose in life be sated?

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