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Anonymous3There are always people posting here, saying oh my sister is not like that, my daughter is not like that, my girlfriend wasn’t like that, a friend of mine whose wife is not like that. You know what, let’s assume that you are right, they are all not like that, let’s say your wife is not like that, what then? What exactly do you get?
Yeah she doesn’t f~~~ you over, but you still have to deal with all the s~~~s that come with her being a woman. She’s still going to have the urge to s~~~ test you, and just like Atlas shrugs, she’ll slip. She’s still going to p~~~ blood when it’s that time of the month. She’s still going to get wrinkly and ugly when she hits the wall and sometimes way before. She’s still going to go through menopause. Her sex drive is still going to plummet. She’s still going to naturally love her kids infinitely more than you. Her humor is still boring. Her interests still are stupid. She still will never try to explore anything in depth like men do. Her ideas are still uninspiring and unremarkable. She still will never grow an appreciation for objective truth and art. She’s still sure as hell not ever going to be on your level intellectually. She still is going to suck away your time. She still is always faking something. The list goes on and on. Is it really worth it?
At the end of the day, you’re still doing most of the work. It’s already a rarity enough to encounter a woman who doesn’t do ONE of things listed above. Nobody is perfect, not even a NAWALT. Realistically she’s bound to have a few of those red flags, how much are you willing to tolerate? How long can you stomach all that before you tap out? And the wager? There is a price to pay if she ends up being just like that, you know.
I was with girl a few years ago. She was my NAWALT, my savior. She loved me that much. She was the only woman whom when I showed weakness and sadness to, cried and embraced me. She always wanted to get married ever since she was little but told me she couldn’t put me through it because it cheapens our bond. Only thing she wanted to do was me and to accompany me whatever I go. All sounded so good on paper, she has to be NAWALT right? Or is she? It doesn’t matter to me, I’m going my own way. Any woman, NAWALT or otherwise, has nothing to offer me. Why wager my lively hold on nothing? Why put my future in her hands? Either way I lose, if she is, I’ll still have to deal with her crap, and if she isn’t, I’m done.
So I decided to break up and told the girl to go away. She was completely devastated and cried for like a year. Certainly something I’m very not proud of, wish I had never started with her in the first place. But, if I were to get married and stay with her, who knows where I would be today.
It’s never worth it to put your life, your future, and most importantly YOU, on the line. For one, you now know one thing about your future with absolute certainly: You will never ever get your heart broken, your children taken away, your wealth and home looted, and divorce raped. Does make the ever unpredictable future a bit more comforting don’t you think? That alone trumps “NAWALT” if you ask me.
The cost of finding the NAWALT is never equal to or greater than the benefit of the NAWALT.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
The ‘N’ should be silent in NAWALT
Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
Anonymous22If you do find a ‘NAWALT’, it’s still more than likely that her family, friends etc. are ‘AWALT’.
NAWALTS do not exist:
I’ve changed.
People do change you know!, (you should be ashamed for thinking otherwise. No sorry I just thought a vow is a vow. If you don’t want to honor the vow, don’t take it.)
I need to find myself.
I don’t want to be married, now.Funny how none of that is in the façade of their wedding vows.
Have an optional mafia contract you both agree she’s a NAWALT and she gets taken out if she decides to not honor her vows. Kind of Steven King like; kind of taken out like men are when she decides to f~~~ the lawnman and divorce you."It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
NAWALT exist, NAWALT doesn’t exist…who cares? I’m not going to make efforts, so it’s up to unicorns to prove they exist.
My position towards NAWALT is the same I have towards God: I’m Agnosticist. Worth nothing that agnosticism is not a creed, but a method: so the existence or lack of NAWALT cannot influence my lifestyle – it’s up to NAWALT prove they exist, and I’m VERY skepticist 😀SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Even if the woman is a NAWALT, our legal and court system is not a NALALT(Not All Laws Are Like That) rather its still a ALALT(All Laws Are Like That) for men, .. which screws men over divorce, fake rape charges, domestic violence etc..
So, NAWALT or AWALT to me MGTOW is the best!
Soon as someone spouts the NAWALT crap on me my reply is always…
“You’re right. The others are far worse.”Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.
She’s a NAWALT when she gets married, but then turns into a AWALT as soon she is not happy or becomes bored with the marriage and wants her old life back.
Soon or later she turns into a AWALT no mater what they say. We all have seen this. Its BS when they say it wont happen to her. As they try to shame us, into marriage. What do they think we are stupid.Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."
She was completely devastated and cried for like a year.
Even if the woman is a NAWALT, our legal and court system is not a NALALT(Not All Laws Are Like That) rather its still a ALALT(All Laws Are Like That) for men, .. which screws men over divorce, fake rape charges, domestic violence etc..
You were wise not to risk YOU being completely devastated later and crying for years if things turned bad as they do in half the marriages.
There’s no such thing as a NAWALT. Attempt to show me one, and I’ll show you a typical woman who displays at least 5 traits found in modern day women. Even old tradcon women are AWALTs.
The only women even remotely capable of being NAWALTs are the ones who put up a NAWALT unicorn act. And they’re only putting up that act because they want your resources, time, attention, or money. They never love you for you.
Every woman, to my knowledge, has always been like that.
Even if one day, all governments were to pander to men instead of women, in every facet of life, I’d still reject the concept of relations~~~s/marriage because every woman always ends up hitting The Wall at some point.
I don’t want to end up stuck with an old hag to have sex with. If I ever had sex at all, I’d want to do it with women who were around ages 18-23. Any older than say, 30 and it’s pushing it.
The concept of a NAWALT unicorn is ridiculous to say the least.
Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.
NAWALT is just a Undercover C~~~, that’s all.
O.P. is right, even if she is, seriously so the f~~~ what! You get nothing out of it.
NAWALT c~~~ is irrelevant, it means nothing.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
I look at this silly NAWALT argument in this manner. The fact that someone has to say NAWALT is the problem in itself. So many are like that which makes it more difficult to find the ones who are not like that. Not to mention chances are, they would get scooped up quicker than you can blink. So why do it? What is the cost benefit analysis of finding the NAWALT? Humor me for a second and pretend they do exist. How many of us actually try to find the winning ticket to the lottery? Oh none of us? Or wait the odds are not that bad? How many of us go gambling in Vegas? Wait not many? Is it because the odds are against you?
Sadly this is how I view the AWALT/NAWALT argument. The risks are not worth the rewards. Why waste my resources combing through garbage to find the one nugget of gold. What do I get in return? Marriage? Another danger joint venture?
So I look at relationships now as I would look at investing in shares in a company. What is your growth value potential (She will have to be a highly paid professional that makes more than me). Are you in shape and will you stay in shape? (tells me if she is fit enough to be a good mom, and she doesn’t come with health issues) Last are you morally strong? (as in you won’t be a vindictive bitch if something does not go your way).
If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.
The point is, even if she’s not some cruel, self centered, narcissistic bitch then she’s still a woman and comes with all thee baggage. She still a moody bitch, picky, dumb, has lame hobbies, and generally boring as f~~~.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
I was with girl a few years ago. She was my NAWALT, my savior. She loved me that much. She was the only woman whom when I showed weakness and sadness to, cried and embraced me. She always wanted to get married ever since she was little but told me she couldn’t put me through it because it cheapens our bond. Only thing she wanted to do was me and to accompany me whatever I go. All sounded so good on paper, she has to be NAWALT right? Or is she? It doesn’t matter to me, I’m going my own way. Any woman, NAWALT or otherwise, has nothing to offer me. Why wager my lively hold on nothing? Why put my future in her hands? Either way I lose, if she is, I’ll still have to deal with her crap, and if she isn’t, I’m done.
So I decided to break up and told the girl to go away. She was completely devastated and cried for like a year. Certainly something I’m very not proud of, wish I had never started with her in the first place. But, if I were to get married and stay with her, who knows where I would be today.
I’m going to get a lot of flack for this, but I don’t agree. Now keep in mind that I was NOT in your situation and I don’t have all the facts. But if I believed that a woman truly loved me and truly said that she never wanted to get married or have kids, then I would probably stay with her. I would NOT get married, nor would I live with her. It’s rare to find that kind of bond with someone, and I wouldn’t have been too hasty to throw it away. If she truly grieved over the breakup for a year, then she probably really was a NAWALT.
Now you’re right. You’re not going to get a lot of practical benefits from a relationship with a woman. She’s probably going to be poorer than you, she probably won’t be anywhere near as intelligent or sophisticated as you, she’s going to cost money when you do things together, but doesn’t that pretty much describe a dog? What does a dog offer other than its love and company? So long as the dog isn’t going to divorce rape you or totally screw your life up, then it’s worth it to have the dog because of the EMOTIONAL benefits.
I’ve removed myself from the game because the chances of finding a NAWALT are pretty much zero, but if I did find one someday, I’d have to really think hard before I’d throw it away. My requirements in a relationship are as follows:
1. No marriage
2. No kids
3. I will NOT give you any money other than a present at special occasions. Loans are acceptable if you’re in a rough spot, but it would have to be a rare occasion. I don’t want a financially unstable woman.
4. You have a f~~~ing job and plan on keeping it. If you lose it, don’t expect me to take care of you. I will help you get back on your feet, but the arrangement would need to be formalized and I would need to be paid back after you get another job.
5. Let me do the things I like and I’ll let you do the things you like. If I don’t feel like spending time with you right now, that is MY choice. My hobbies are NOT “childish.”
6. Sex for sex. I don’t want a whore. I’ll please you if you please me. No, I won’t pay for a dinner and a night on the town in exchange for sex.
7. When we go on dates or do activities together, we pay our own expenses. If I choose to eat light or choose a cheaper item on the menu, that should be my choice. Likewise if you want the expensive stuff, that’s your choice.
8. No nagging or whining. That s~~~ drives me crazy.
9. You don’t get fat and I won’t get fat. Sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
10. If I’d rather look at porn or use my fleshlight, that’s MY choice. I’m sorry, you’re sexy but I can’t look at the same damned thing every time and still have a good orgasm.So long as all these criteria are met, I think I might try it. I’d still be VERY leery for years, and ready to jump ship at any time. But if it would work then it’s worth the cost.
Anonymous3Nah, no flack, perfectly fair assessment on your part. I did leave out one important point however: She wanted children. Yeah you can probably skip the rest of the post now but might as well, I’ll give more details on this whole thing and why I made my choice like that. It wasn’t about the practical things at all.
In the beginning I gave her the “some day” cop out answer, on the topic of children, which in my defense, she wanted to wait as well, and I wasn’t as firmly as I was near the end of the relationship in terms of living MGTOW so I didn’t exactly rule children out completely yet. I really loved her as well. And that’s reason why I said I wish I didn’t start with her in the first place. Yeah she wanted children, but she also made it very clear she wanted nobody else but me and mine, and she only wanted one child.
So my choices were either: I be the man of her life and complete her dreams, or I go my own way. I have nothing to lose and everything to gain with the latter choice. The former, to let my fate be decided by someone else, is something I simply cannot do.
Or I take the third option of taking it day by day just to see where things end up. But I couldn’t possibly be that dishonest and shady. Youth and beauty mean the world to a woman. And she told me on numerous occasions how frustrating and angry it made her feel, not being able to meet me earlier in life so she could offer me more of her prime years, the youth that she’s losing by the day. Should I just keep leading her on? I felt like I owed her a definite answer. A woman’s time runs out quick.
Eventually I would still be confronted with the the two choices. So I decided to end everything before it’s like 5 years into the future, where she has to start over again being 5 years older. And by ending, I mean breaking all contact and disappearing from one another. What else I could have done? Be just friends? Who are we kidding? She had told me many times how difficult it was for her to compose herself seeing other women touch me, and how jealous it made her feel, thinking about me being with other women. And I certainly don’t want to think about her being with another guy, even to this day.
It wasn’t going anywhere. Had I stayed with her, truth be told, I most likely would have swallowed the blue pill, and ended up marrying her and having children. And I liked her too much to put her in any difficult situations, even though I knew she probably would have given up on the children for as long as she could, had I given her an ultimatum.
It was just a disaster. I couldn’t bring myself to keep her, knowing at that point I truly no longer wanted children. The longer I keep her, the less chance she has on having another mate and fulfilling her dream of having a child. We liked each other too much to ignore the relationship and go back to sleeping with other people. Breaking up was the only option in my opinion. I wish that wasn’t the case. I wish we were never together in the first place. I wish there was a better option that could have fulfilled everybody’s dreams without breaking any hearts.
I can understand this was an emotionally wrenching decision for both of you, but you have to be selfish and protect yourself. Her jealousy is a red flag. The guys here can tell you that even one child is 18 years of support. One second after you say “I do,” your life changes and it will be according to HER plan. Eventually I suspect you will see you were wise to end it now.
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