You notice how miserable married men with kids are?

[HermitParticipant]

Gargamel wrote:

Hermit wrote:

I became so miserable in my marriage that I didn’t care whether I lived or died. In fact, I was praying for death just so I could escape the misery.

I grew up under such a spell. At the edge of suicide.

C~~~ induced misery (CIM).

Times 100. Family c~~~s and customer c~~~s. Teacher c~~~s and abusive child care give c~~~s who were not to reason with.

For years.

And that would take me to a point of plotting to get rid of her.

And I mean “smart” and without paying for her useless ass.

All men who could ever endure a c~~~ more than 3 days are “good men” compared to me.

I am allergic to them now. And I see this spreading across the globe.

At the end of this spiral, women will have lost all rights. The ones they always had plus the ones they stole.

It’s going to get so much worse before it begins to get any better though.

The evil in women’s hearts leaves them no moral bounds as to inhibit them from descending to the lowest levels of darkness to acquire their self entitled desires.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Eyeswideopen wrote:

I am not rich or particularly handsome, but I am free.

That is what I think. If you are rich or handsome, you become a target for these modern female gold-digging parasites. So, I think it is better to be ‘average’ (i.e. below the females’ mating target) and c~~~-free, than to not be. The beauty is that, because modern women have set their standards in a mate so un-realistically high, it is easier than ever to be below their target; just do not make the mistake of stepping-up to their demands/expectations.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Hermit wrote:

It’s going to get so much worse before it begins to get any better though.

Well, we are here to treat the CIM illness in men.

With pills in red color.

Made in Smurf Village.

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[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sjt1975 wrote:

The beauty is that, because modern women have set their standards in a mate so un-realistically high, it is easier than ever to be below their target; just do not make the mistake of stepping-up to their demands/expectations.

Pretending to be below their standards will work very well.

And if you can’t hide a luxury car, driving like a madman will make them see that they can’t ever tame you.

C~~~s “love” sensible men who don’t drive around corners on two or three wheels. And they shake their heads at men who know only 2 gas pedal positions.

Well, this is how I earned my hate points at my locality. None of these c~~~s could ever imagine riding with me.

Well, that could be the adrenaline addiction they have caused. Doing things close to death is bringing back the feeling I had when fighting with evil c~~~s as a kid.

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[Anonymous 38]

Money is a big differentiator. Family men without much money are under an omnipresent pressure to provide more, and if you’re not a feet earner you know you’re f~~~ed for years as this is pretty much insatiable. That will simultaneously p~~~ you off and depress you knowing you’ll never be good enough as you are, they will always require and expect MORE.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Here is golden advice on how to avoid the misery that living with a c~~~ brings:

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[BadgerParticipant 2277]

Gargamel wrote:

Until you end up “under her thumb” and have to beg for your right to live.

I once worked with a woman about whom a German doctor told me: “I feel like she wants me to apologize for being born, and that I should promise never to let it happen again.”
She tried to pull a power play on me and since I was single, I quit. That only made the medical personnel all the more disgusted with her.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Badger wrote:

Gargamel wrote:

Until you end up “under her thumb” and have to beg for your right to live.

I once worked with a woman about whom a German doctor told me: “I feel like she wants me to apologize for being born, and that I should promise never to let it happen again.”
She tried to pull a power play on me and since I was single, I quit. That only made the medical personnel all the more disgusted with her.

The growing man-drought is now the end-result of the way women treated their men during the past 150 years. (Since feminism taught them to hate men)

“Boys like me” LOL. I saw how my father was treated by the family harpies and I now write about it but would never endure it myself.

23 years of “family” was enough to cook that frog for life.

They didn’t treat me any better. I was considered “defective” for being a man. And I showed myself how well I can do without them. Without the “advice” of nagging c~~~s.

Statistically, the screeching harpies of my family “caused” one bitter man-less cat lady who will have to be lonely till she dies.
And she can bitch at the walls.

Well, I left some food on the table for old-hag hunting PUA’s.

Let them have the misery.

Let them get old with CIM.

“C~~~ Induced Misery”

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[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

It’s bad enough the woman alone tries to destroy all your independent interested hobbies and suck up all your time. What little is left is completely gone if you have a kid.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

sjt1975 wrote:

The beauty is that, because modern women have set their standards in a mate so un-realistically high,

Except they haven’t.

Have you seen the average baby daddy these days? Most Chads are total f~~~ing losers by any objective standard.

just do not make the mistake of stepping-up to their demands/expectations.

Never give them anything. Ever. The problem is, if you ignore them, if you walk away from them, they come chasing after you.

Anonymous wrote:

Money is a big differentiator.

Except it isn’t. It really isn’t. Look at all the rich, famous cucks who end up getting raped in divorce.

Family men without much money are under an omnipresent pressure to provide more, and if you’re not a feet earner you know you’re f~~~ed for years as this is pretty much insatiable.

Men with money are under the same pressure. Men are irrelevant in this equation. It doesn’t matter how much any man provides her, she will always demand more.

That will simultaneously p~~~ you off and depress you knowing you’ll never be good enough as you are, they will always require and expect MORE.

Hypergamy floats. If you provide her an apartment, she will demand a cottage. If you provide her a cottage, she will demand a house. If you provide her a house, she will demand a mansion.

Once she has you pegged as a chump, you will never be a good enough chump for her.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sidecar wrote:

Except they haven’t.

Have you seen the average baby daddy these days? Most Chads are total f~~~ing losers by any objective standard.

Yes, they get the sperm from bad boy loser “Chad” but then expect the “good man” to “man up” and pay for her spawn.

When it comes to marrying a “beta”, no man is ever good enough for them.

And some women go for the losers as the result of some inferiority complex…

That’s when they realize that their “f~~~ and s~~~” speech code, their used up party-girl looks and their missing education are too far off to ever attract and keep a high-end wallet.

No man from the business level wants to be seen with a “ghetto thot”…

(I had some rejecting me because of that. “You are too smart for me, it won’t last” – Yes I was only in it for the T+A…LOL.)

That’s when these women “default” back to their schoolyard playboys, whom they are familiar with.

Opposites do not attract.

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[ironheartParticipant 942]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s not the kids that wear these men down, its the c~~~s they married who make these guys miserable.

Women are not women anymore. They are abusive bytches who think they are the kings of the world. That is their new ideal.

That is why the western world is doomed.

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[ConstantineParticipant 4420]

Gargamel wrote:

Once you are with a woman, she will constantly try to dominate you and “get on top of you”.
In the past, men could then retaliate and set matters straight using the method of their choice.
Now that the laws are so terribly biased against men, the woman can dominate and boss him around until he gives up.
This can be seen blatantly in everyday life: Men do not get help from society, men do not have human rights, men are considered to be always at fault.
Men can no longer “set things straight” inside of a relationship. This now leads to jail time.
So either be a slave to a woman or forget them altogether.
I decided to go with the latter, since women don’t offer anything of value anyway.

Ain’t that the truth.

When a woman is looking for a man, she’s not looking for a loving relationship. She’s looking for something to change. That’s why the idiots in her “friend zone” are not considered potential mates – they’ve already changed, or are willing to, for the sake of a woman. So no challenge there.

The most important thing to a woman is something in a man that she can turn around. That’ll be why your friend ended up being anti-weed, Azureth. His bitch would’ve jumped on that from the word go. A meaty task for her to reverse.

I once read an interview with Ben Affleck where he was talking about an argument he’d had with his then-wife. It ended with him losing and having to iron sheets in front of the kids as a conciliatory token of his defeat.

Unbelievably irresponsible. D’you know what that’s teaching his kids? That it’s perfectly okay for Mum to belittle Dad. Dad’s opinions don’t matter. Not important in the slightest. Just yell him into submission until he’s doing housework for you. Dad stepped out of line again, and actually thought he was entitled to a say? Silly Daddy.

I bet those kids will grow up to be great people.

To see what is in front of one's nose requires a constant struggle. -Orwell

[Anonymous 38]

sidecar wrote:

MGTaoist wrote:
Money is a big differentiator.

Except it isn’t. It really isn’t. Look at all the rich, famous cucks who end up getting raped in divorce.

Family men without much money are under an omnipresent pressure to provide more, and if you’re not a feet earner you know you’re f~~~ed for years as this is pretty much insatiable.

Men with money are under the same pressure. Men are irrelevant in this equation. It doesn’t matter how much any man provides her, she will always demand more.

That will simultaneously p~~~ you off and depress you knowing you’ll never be good enough as you are, they will always require and expect MORE.

Hypergamy floats. If you provide her an apartment, she will demand a cottage. If you provide her a cottage, she will demand a house. If you provide her a house, she will demand a mansion.

Once she has you pegged as a chump, you will never be a good enough chump for her.

Money equals power. You have more power to say no when you’re bringing in a fair amount of bacon. You are right in everything you say, however I stand by my claim that wealth is a differentiator. I perhaps should have said real wealth, not your typical middle class struggling.

But also i concede there is an added worry for wealthy guys which is how much the c~~~ will take from you of she divorces, and that would always be hanging over your head.

That is why any man marrying now is really stupid. Wealthy with no kids is the most powerful position for a man.

[sjt1975Participant 2536]

Gargamel wrote:

Once you are with a woman, she will constantly try to dominate you and “get on top of you”.

In the past, men could then retaliate and set matters straight, using the method of their choice.

Now that the laws are so terribly biased against men, the woman can dominate and boss him around, until he gives up.

This can be seen blatantly in everyday life; men do not get help from society, men do not have human rights, men are considered to be always at fault.

Men can no longer “set things straight” inside of a relationship. This now leads to jail time.

So, either be a slave to a woman, or forget them altogether.

I decided to go with the latter, since women don’t offer anything of value anyway.

This is my conclusion exactly, regarding these modern women, and the modern society in which we live now. I love your responses, Gargamel; so spot-on.

Overall, men need to walk away from women and do their own thing, nowadays.

It is not tolerable/worth-while to have a relationship/marriage with a woman nowadays; even a quick shag is too risky and too much work, if the truth be told. Besides, who wants to stick his dick in some pussy that has already been dicked-out more times than he has had hot dinners?

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

sjt1975 wrote:

This is my conclusion exactly, regarding these modern women, and the modern society in which we live now. I love your responses, Gargamel; so spot-on.

I can’t even go into depth…

But once you know how women tick you also know how trolls “work”.

They are one and the same. Any you don’t want these trolls in your life.

Even a short fling can yield you a stalker who bombards you with s~~~ for ending her “dream” relationship. Or she will pull that “one phone call” or a #metoo thing on you. Only to get back at you…

And all “flings” become clingy. Every female “f~~~buddy” will sooner or later turn into that “can I stay?”, “don’t you feel alone?” or “we have to talk about our relationship” kind of thing.

And if let her move in, you commit suicide.

Buyer’s beware!

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[ZarathustraParticipant 2246]

Gargamel wrote:

Even a short fling can yield you a stalker who bombards you with s~~~ for ending her “dream” relationship. Or she will pull that “one phone call” or a #metoo thing on you. Only to get back at you…
And all “flings” become clingy. Every female “f~~~buddy” will sooner or later turn into that “can I stay?”, “don’t you feel alone?” or “we have to talk about our relationship” kind of thing.
Buyer’s beware!
And if let her move in, you commit suicide.

This is why I stopped pump and dumps and flings. Unless you are very emotionally disciplined the next thing you know you have been sucked into the relationship vortex. I KNOW I am too weak to avoid that trap so I don’t even wander close to the precipice for fear of falling in…

[TwistParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Never give them anything. Ever. The problem is, if you ignore them, if you walk away from them, they come chasing after you.

Why they call it a swat her.

ironheart wrote:

Women are not women anymore. They are abusive bytches who think they are the kings of the world.

With their army of lawyers, courts and LEOs behind her, she is damn strong and independent. Reminds me of having “my friend Harvey” in the Honeymooners…

Gargamel wrote:

“we have to talk about our relationship”

I just threw up a little in my mouth. The only thing worse than “we have to talk” is “we have to SIT DOWN and talk”. Thank God those days are done.

[TwistParticipant]

Hermit wrote:

I know AWALT, but I swear I got one of the worst ones.

No you didn’t. Middle of the pack from my read. AWALT.

ALL.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

I don’t know I’m not seeing much of a change other than a bunch of brainwashed idiots. I just had a 22-year-old nephew in the Navy knocked up a 19-year-old girl and they had a shotgun wedding and the baby will be born next month. F~~~ing idiot ruined at least the next 20 years of his life.
My other nephew is a complete blue pill simple just like his f~~~ing father and I fed him every single red pill imaginable to no avail. He lives with his girlfriend and I’m sure will be knocking her up and marrying her that’s ruining his f~~~ing life.

Yes maybe there is a small minority of young men waking up but testosterone and biology the power of the pussy over young man is pretty hard to overcome.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

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