"You care more about football than me"

[Jim01Participant 6678]

saw my blue pill old mate last night for a drink…

First up we were supposed to go to football on Sunday but he cancelled at the last minute with an excuse about his nan being ill. It seemed like bulls~~~ but I couldn’t call him out on it as it was a family thing but last night he was telling me about his fiancé and her actions and I realised SHE was the reason he didn’t turn up.

She is the typical low self esteem girl who expects herself to be the centre of his world (I have almost cut this bloke off before due to constant cancelling’s of nights out/drinks) and I have been phased out of going to football (support different teams) with him as she goes….last night he even said he gets f~~~ed off with her being there in a bad mood all the time. But the funny thing was he said how she was having a “bad day” when he was supposed to be going to a Tuesday night game after work and she wanted to see him instead. Cue the line above although he went to football he said how when he saw her the next night and she was giving him grief and being the mangina he is he apparently said “I didn’t realise how bad you were I could have seen you” leading onto more manipulation from her saying how she doesn’t want to be the girl who stops him from going football (although clearly she does) and playing him like a fiddle

now – he is giving off signs of becoming a bit red pill as when I point out how he can’t ever give into her he agrees but then he goes and gives in anyway….I think he is telling me one thing and just doing what she wants.

Is there any hope for this bloke or shall I just give up trying to give him sound advice on how not to make a rod for his own back by buying into her manipulative bulls~~~? I want to just outright tell him what is going on but I have to skirt around it as I can’t be arsed with a pussy storm off and give her more ammunition to turn him against me – any thoughts?

[davParticipant 422]

Hey Jim01,

Bit sad about your friend. It’s quite a common thing, seen much the same thing from some people I knew. Generally there is not much you can say that will change your friends mind or make him change things for himself. Unfortunately he will probably have to get f~~~ed over big time in some way by this woman before he realises it. When that time comes and if you still keep it touch with him he will probably tell you he should have listened to you earlier and he was a fool for not doing something before.

There is a massive difference between a blue pill man and a red pill man. Honestly I don’t believe you can bridge that gap by getting advice from a friend, it is born out of personal experience. Not positive experiences either.

Good luck!

[peterfaParticipant 833]

What does a woman want? Can’t she take care of herself, let the man take care of himself, and then spend their time together. Marriage and relationships is about people wanting to be together, spending time together, and growing together. You should have to spoil her all the time to convince her you don’t think she’s a mock of a human.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Honestly, when I’m taking a look at the relationships my friends are in, it just seems like it’s nothing but a guy trading his ressources and energy/attention for occasional sex. I can see that my best friend is tired of his gf’s s~~~: always complaining, always wanting approval, always asking him what’s he doing( even though he’s the last guy on heart who’d cheat on his girlfriend). It just seems like he wants to get rid of her, but can’t bring himself to do it. It looks like a lot of guys are in his same situation.
But I’m not really adressing the point. Pascal, in my opinion, women can’t just “be themselves” and let the guy they’re with live his life, because they need to leech all of his potential/energy in order to feel better about themselves. They’re hypergamic, but then obviously they realize that their boyfriend is better than them in so many fields, they kinda want to ” bring him back to her level”. She wants a guy who’s better then her, yet at the same time she deems her ego too precious for it to be “questioned” by his potential…

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

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