Would you want to be a single Father?

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Just wondering- I’m interested in the idea of adopting a kid after I reach Financial Independence/retire around 40. It’ll be cool to show him the world. Teach him about the Battle of Hastings while traveling there, go biking/explore nature with him, etc.

Plus, since I would be adopting, I’d have the satisfaction of knowing that I’m giving someone great opportunity in life. Opportunity that they wouldn’t otherwise have.

So, my brothers- would you guys consider being a single father?

[DDJParticipant 1880]

I’ve been a single father on two different occasions…once for about 6 years when my oldest were young and recently again, starting about a year and a half ago.

While I enjoy parenting, I’m looking forward to my youngest coming of age so I can start focusing more on myself…Fortunately, while I’m not young…I’m not so old I can’t enjoy many of the things I would’ve when I was younger. That said, I don’t regret being a dad, generally. I just regret being with both mothers.

Every woman is a slut, if you catch her on the right day.

[AttonParticipant]

When I am older I would say yes, in many regards I have been giving advantages many people do not. I have received much over the course of my life so far and at some point I would like to give back.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[RoyDalParticipant]

I have often thought I would like to pass on my tribal lore and such wisdom I have achieved. I am too chicken to actually try it.

One barrier is the adoption agencies seem to have a bias against single men.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’d be on the fence about it. I’d love to be a father, but at the same time the big reason I want to retire early is to not have any responsibility. It would seem kind of pointless to shed the responsibility of a job just to pick up the responsibility of parenting.

Plus you’d run into the problem of age. If you had a kid you’d have more monthly expenses…so suddenly that retirement at 40 gets pushed back to account for that. If you were retiring closer to 50 and adopted a baby or little kid, would you want to be dealing with a teen ager in your 60s?

I’d hate to admit it but if I wanted kids bad enough I’d probably just let the next chick I get a shot at that has a solid career, like a teacher, nurse, or engineer or something try to trap me with a kid and then refuse to marry her lol. Or maybe pull a crazy reverse f~~~ing on her and poke holes in my own condoms lol. At least the child support wouldn’t be as bad if she had a history of a solid income as well, and since she knew she had to go back to work even if she came after me for child support…she’d probably not be such a c~~~ about joint custody if we eventually split because it would be like free babysitting so she could go hop back on the carousel. I’m not saying it would turn her into a unicorn, but knowing that she can’t just divorce you and walk away with a windfall would probably make her treat you a little more decently if she wanted to keep you and your resources around, but at the same time if you have a house, a retirement account, and other savings for early retirement in your name only she’d have no claim over any of it as long as you aren’t in a common law marriage state, which thankfully I’m not.

But then again I’m not really sure I want kid(s) bad enough if my two choices amount to adopting when I’m probably older than I’d want to be to start out as a parent or settling for a woman based on damage mitigation criteria because I don’t believe in unicorns.

[SpacemonkeyParticipant 1481]

I would not want to be a farther under any circumstances, I don’t like children.

However what you are proposing is quite a nobel thing and I aplaud it. Is it even possible for a single to adopt a child?

“Long is the way and hard, that out of Hell leads up to light.”

[BeerParticipant 11832]

DDJ wrote:

That said, I don’t regret being a dad, generally. I just regret being with both mothers.

This is why I don’t have kids yet…I’m sure it would also be my biggest regret about being a father as well.

Spacemonkey wrote:

Is it even possible for a single to adopt a child?

Considering the amount of money the government throws at single moms it would be a travesty if a financially independent single dad couldn’t adopt a kid with no government support, which I wouldn’t be surprised if one couldn’t or it was excessively hard for one to do.

[Zuberi TauParticipant 10606]

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

I have 2 boys and I would happily take custody and raise them on my own. I don’t think I could ever adopt though.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[QuietlyquietlyParticipant 728]

I would jump at the chance. I love my kids, even though I haven’t seen them for 8 years. I love kids generally, they are so wondrous at the whole world, not jaded like so many people are. It’s a big responsibility to raise a kid, but after seeing so many other people f~~~ up, teaching their kids to be afraid, to conform to terrible stereotypes, not question obvious things, then I think it’s my role to counter that, and teach kids not to be afraid, to question everything, reignite their natural curiosity and think for themselves.

I’m lucky to have nieces and nephews who respond well to me, and it’s always a delight to see them and play with them on their level.

If you get the chance, go for it!

[xenonParticipant 2007]

In the past I may have answered yes to that, but now after my experiences with females, not a chance. I would never bring a male child into this society and the chances of a female learning to be human are so slim that the first chad to come along and, boom, you have grandkids. Forget it, it cost too much heartbreak to get where I am now. The sad truth here is I would have made a great father too. As far as I can see, it is a wasteland out there and it is getting worse all the time. Western society at it’s end days? I rather think so.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

It would definitely be a male child if i adopted. I don’t think I could raise a female because of all the differences in adolescence and beyond.

It is an interesting subject that I think about from time to time.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I raised my son from 9 months until age 14 when he went to live with his mom due to her not requiring him to do homework while at my house that was non-negotiable. Then his mother bought a house in Hawaii and that was the end for me.

When he moved to his mothers house. And she is a very bitter haterful ex who blames me for every loss she had in family court. He has had little contact with me.

Now he is 18 and we are trying to build a relationship but it will never be the same.

So I spent 14 years, 300,000.00 in attorney fees so I could have a child that ignores me. At 18 he says he doesn’t think he’ll have time to see me this year but he might fit me in if I fly to him.

This is from a child that is not in college, does not have a job and is living off his mothers credit card (my ex married a millionaire).

So, I vote no. I know of no single men that have a good and fulfilling relationship with their adult children. Not one.

If you want to get up early, feed your child, get him to school, leave work early to pick him up from school, lose all freedom and be tied to an actual true child, instead of the woman children we talk about here, go for it. The effort will not likely be appreciated. It’s our society that encourages fathers to be not only irrelevant to the raising of children but an actual danger to children. That’s how my son treats me.

Don’t say you weren’t warned.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[BurgundyParticipant 1525]

Most simply like the idea, but not the reality of what it actually entails.

I think there are different ways to become a guide or mentor, without having to sacrifice big chunks of your free time, becoming a single parent is not one of them.

I would rather start training in martial arts again, and then seek to become a mentor/trainer in that field, which could be done in any field that has a mentor/apprentice relationship, than some paper dad. Honestly I have more respect for my martial arts teacher, when I grew up, than my parents.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Not ever again in this day and age.
I raised my daughter alone from 18 months to 18 years old, while still being able to meet all the demands of my chosen profession. The entire time doing damage control over the crap her mother was pulling in regards to her. Unlike single “mothers” there is absolutely ZERO support for fathers, and you end up fighting the government for actual parental benefits they so generously toss out to those poor single moms.
It felt like being constantly on guard against false allegations, innuendos, and the general attitude that I wasn’t a good parent because I didn’t have a vagina. (oopps, I had a feeling there, wont happen again)
The irony that people forget was that I got sole custody thanks to a lawyer, 3 social workers, and 2 shrinks that testified that between the “mother” and I, I was the most stable in all aspects, and the best choice for my daughter. They all just happened to be women.

In the end, it just didn’t matter because she has all the BS ideas, attitudes, and sense of entitlement that all women have.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[Anonymous 11]

Hell no!

I’m too old. Even if you adopt, some woman will get a judge to throw out the agreement. I like other people’s kids though.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Thank you for this insight guys. This is exactly why I asked. Got lots of good food for thought right here.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Beer wrote:

I’m not saying it would turn her into a unicorn, but knowing that she can’t just divorce you and walk away with a windfall would probably make her treat you a little more decently if she wanted to keep you and your resources around,

That’s how it worked for me. Didn’t marry mom and avoided a LOT of crazy expense and headache. So far so good, no major complaints. I pay child support, but it all gets spent on the kid, so no worries there.

We’ll see how it goes as kiddo gets older (she’s 12 now).

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