Women Think They Will Be Able To Fall Back On Traditionalism

[BoarParticipant]

Fall back to traditionalism? Fine, if they are will to give up all modern conveniences and wash clothes by hand, cook entirely from scratch, dust and broom the house everyday, garden and preserve produce, etc, they may find a few takers. But no MGTOW will bother even then.

They need to go further back then they think to a time when whimyn’s lives actually required physical labor. Sorry cupcake, troweling on a foundation and 14 layers of fakeup does not count as ‘labor.’

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

I’m speaking for all men here when I simply say “no”. Not offering a why or how, just “no”, and that’s all they’ll get from me.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[EndOfDatesParticipant 51]

… the bitches these days would just lay around the house posting bulls~~~ on social media, watching soap opera’s, and eating junk food while getting obese.

And you’d come home to her with half her head shaved because, “I saw it on t~~~ter, it’s so sexy!”

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Once a Man hits the age of 25-28 the big brain starts taking over. Nowadays in the information age- things like hypergamy, briffaults law, red pills, female nature, etc are out there for all to see.

Marriage is an outdated social construct that’ll probably expire altogether, within a few decades.

Personally I’d like to see a scenario where a Man and Women can draft a custom legal document, where they can negotiate the terms as they see fit prior to engagement… And have it actually hold up in court. Social norms are changing too fast to have such a rigid, one-size-fits-all marriage contract.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the introduction of a 10-year marriage contract at some point. Long enough to start a family and raise them to a certain age- with custody rights, child support already negotiated prior.

Think about it- With life expectancy continuing to rise, who the f~~~ wants to stay with the same person for 80+ years?

Like it or not, some women can pull off the independence thing. I take my hat off to them for adapting, however I personally find no attraction to those types. Meanwhile there are several women out there that would love to submit to a Patriarch and receive the benefits.

Right now we’re in some crazy middle ground where women are unaccountable and Man is nothing more then the slave.

If a women were to become dependent on me while she raises a child, it’s probably not insane to give them some sort of legal/financial protection. I just think that should be negotiated on a case by case basis, between Man and woman. The way things are currently constructed is simply not viable.

Not my property... Not my problem

[TuneoutParticipant]

EndOfDates wrote:

And you’d come home to her with half her head shaved because, “I saw it on t~~~ter, it’s so sexy!”

Exactly,women today have lost all sense of style and class thanks to feminism.

NotMyProblem wrote:

Marriage is an outdated social construct that’ll probably expire altogether, within a few decades.

Personally I’d like to see a scenario where a Man and Women can draft a custom legal document, where they can negotiate the terms as they see fit prior to engagement… And have it actually hold up in court. Social norms are changing too fast to have such a rigid, one-size-fits-all marriage contract.

I wouldn’t be at all surprised to see the introduction of a 10-year marriage contract at some point. Long enough to start a family and raise them to a certain age- with custody rights, child support already negotiated prior.

Agreed, Gov’ts are going to have to act soon what with the deciding marriage and birth rates.
I can see them paying men and women to have sex and conceive children in the future and once born the child would be raised in an state run orphanage.

Sort of Orwellian I know but the future does look bleak for trad forms of relationships.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Yes- I’m not sure I’m the guy to do it… but we definitely need more babies.

America and the whole western world is heading straight off a demographic cliff. Which is why we have to let so many immigrants in.

Social Security goes bankrupt without new tax slaves to pay for the old tax slaves. It’s set up exactly like a Ponzi scheme.

Not my property... Not my problem

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Tuneout wrote:

Agreed, Gov’ts are going to have to act soon what with the deciding marriage and birth rates.
I can see them paying men and women to have sex and conceive children in the future and once born the child would be raised in an state run orphanage.

That is already being done. Has been done for decades.

Women are paid by the state to have illegitimate children. There is no license for the fitness of the mother. These mothers crank out babies every 2 years – usually 4-5 from 4-5 absent fathers. Mom is of course on welfare/disability, in section 8 housing. In Canada, mom can collect up to $6500 per child, per year, tax free – not limiting any other benefits.

Then when children’s aid get called when mom goes off the rails, they get placed in foster homes – regulated and paid for by the government. Mom gets to challenge the removal of her kids, assigned a lawyer etc, while still getting all the bonuses. Unless mother is an absolute crack-hoe, children are returned for a time, and the cycle continues. These children are so screwed up that they perpetuate the cycles into the next generation.

The one thing that they learn is to vote for any government platform that keeps the money/dole going. We have about 3-4 generations of sheepeople funded on the backs of the working class, which is getting smaller and smaller. The system will crash and pandemonium will ensue.

I can see government thinking up new and creative ways of redistributing stealing single men’s wealth. Overt taxes only go so far. Just as common-law relationships entitle a woman to alimony and limited property rights, I can see the same with dating. I can see the government stepping in and declaring LTR in the absence of cohabitation as defacto marriage. There are already a few extreme cases that have been deemed as such, but I can see the threshold being lower.

Envision it (hypothetical):

Date a chick for 6 months, enjoy sex and companionship, and then part ways. She fills out a form, registers the relationship, and now you are hit for 3 months of alimony, plus half of all savings during the relationship. You never lived together, but someone has to pay for her “independence”.
Women have been doing this with oops pregnancies, but with male birth control on the horizon, the government will act as the resources need to continue to flow.

Be careful out there.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

Traditionalism was a raw deal too. Will never go back to that bulls~~~, even as it becomes more common. I bet all the blue pills will be rejoicing like it’s some sort of victory or some miraculous return to form, but it’s all a ruse.

Don’t fall for the new traditionalism or anti feminist women.

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

Want to go back to traditionalist relationship?

Then, know your role and shut your hole…

Peace brothers

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

The back up plan if financially raping men by legal force does not work… is hoping that they can still be financially raping men because men will volunteer for it again…

The change from traditional marriages to what we have now was just a mass monkey-branching to something they thought was better. Just as many of them individually assume that the guy they monkey branch away from will still be there if the next guy doesn’t meet the higher expectations, the mass of them may believe that the mass of men who go mgtow will still be there when the promise of feminism doesn’t meet expectations.

That’s what female logic has become.

When I look into the future, I see an awful lot of monkeys trying to swing back to very few remaining branches. I’ll be too old by then to be a target branch anyway, but I’ll sit with a beer and some popcorn and enjoy that show…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[TaxGuyParticipant]

For women, traditional vs. feminism is simply choosing which lifestyle is better for THEM. It has nothing to do with what’s better for him.

Until they learn to actually care about the man it’s still just a trap.

I want be holding my breath waiting for that to happen.

Order the good wine

[AttonParticipant]

Traditional gender roles where constructed for a completely different enviroment. At one point it actually made sense but it hasn’t for at least 100 years.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22522]

Women you do not get to disrespect the honorable men and ride the c~~~ carousel of bad boys for decades then turn around and scream for traditionalism when you women begin to hit the wall.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

she sees a future where feminism will ultimately fail, and things will eventually “bounce back” to traditionalism to bring men back, and that will solve the problem.

Yeah the feminists actually are “tired of working”, have changed their minds and now want to get back to the kitchen.

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/workplace-drudgery-drives-feminists-back-to-the-kitchen-3cfncfc2s

Anonymous wrote:

This isn’t the first time I have heard a woman say this.

They can say it all they like.
But men have learned and adapted.

Feminism has ripped the lid off women with such force it can never be replaced. It was the worst thing women could have done for themselves, because it forever reveal the well-documented true nature of women and their unbridled GREED, manipulation, selfishness and toxicity.

And not since the days of Samson and Delilah have men been so keenly aware of the havoc and destruction women can visit upon them. Feminists have f~~~ed it up for women forever.

BEST thing, really.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 54]

Traditionalism would include not haveing the right to vote.A Man could not be charged for rapeing his wife. At a rape trial the defense could ask her what she was wearing at the time.A Man was the King of his castle,he made the rules. That kind of tadconism would work for a Man.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

A Man could not be charged for rapeing his wife

That is one of the most insane things I ever heard about. When feminists started pretending there is such a thing as “marital rape”. How the f~~~ can there be “rape” in a marriage? What’s next?? Is it called “molestation” when a fireman carries a child out of a burning orphanage?

There are wives out there who are taking their husbands to court and ordering him to PAY for NOT having sex with her
/forums/topic/husband-must-pay-for-sexless-marriage/

There can be no such thing as “marital rape”.
( Unless you’re talking about women f~~~ing their husbands over )

A marriage contract is a VIP pass to backstage vagina.
Anal is still for sale , but vagina is guaranteed.

Anonymous wrote:

That kind of tadconism would work for a Man.

Just because marriages didn’t fail as often, doesn’t mean they “worked”. Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas doesn’t mean you had a good time.

There was no “benefit” to the man, unless rationed periodic access to her vagina counts. That’s what the arrangement boiled down to: Her sex for his resources. And now we’re supposed to think a woman can call it “marital rape” — AND collect a payout for being a s~~~ty wife??

Even when they didn’t call it “marital rape”, is that commensurate compensation? Does the sex the wife offers in exchange for his life’s labor alleviate all the stresses and pressures of his 70-hour work week?

Only women and children benefited from a marriage contract.
It only “worked” for the woman and “her” kids.

The best thing a man got out of it, was not getting charged ( or imprisoned ) for “marital rape” and screwed out of his wealth. That’s the BEST he could do. Still no “benefit”.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 18]

I think women will get men back on to the plantation.

Mgtow is born out of the s~~~ty deal. A reaction to women having free reigns and over-inflated value in the market place. A modern woman isn’t worth it according to Mgtow philosophy.

Women have evolved and thrived on backs of men for eons. They will adapt and evolve.

Women merely react. There is no internal compass but only an external guidebook. You change the rules, you change her behavior.

Mgtow can at best re-write the rules for men. Women will fall in line. Men will allow her old privileges because she is a reformed obedient wife.

In reality only true Mgtow is not living for a family or a woman but for oneself. Swearing off delusions of love with women, to only use them for sex, and never allow her to speak a word in a man’s ear to persuade him otherwise is the only route for men’s eternal freedom.

Which means changing our own internal compass to not reactionary but visionary. The life for a man independent of woman is the only life – free of obligations.

But the question then arises – where goes propagation of our species?

Mgtow is an ideology that nature dictates must remain in subsets of human population. There will always be blue pilled men being plow horses. And I believe women know that.

[shovelheadriderParticipant 2400]

Anonymous wrote:

conversation with a woman at a pub

Siting in a bar buying a women drinks? Many woman are crazy to tell you feminist plans for you.The greed in them will tell you what you ant to hear while you spend money on her.Women do not wast time on men for no reason.Playing a beta till Chad comes by and steals her away from you.Trolling for drinks S.O.P. while scouting for prey.In that time,she has found out what car you drive,your job/earning potential etc.She spouts I am not like other women and likes she has.Bar Hogs were the first card reader.She has obtained enough information to know if you were exceptionable prey or a place to sit while waiting for prey.
“A man’s face is his autobiography. A woman’s face is her work of fiction”;Oscar Wyld

[TaxGuyParticipant]

One other important point about traditionalist view is that it’s so much easier around the house now. Dishwashers, microwaves, hell you even have robot vacuum cleaners! Men have made countless inventions to make women’s lives easier. Which, thanks to feminism has made men’s lives easier.

So now a man can work all day and in an hour or so take care of his own home. Technology has made the reason for the traditional wife obsolete.

Throw in the sex doll technology and their last redeemable quality will be obsolete as well.

Order the good wine

[joetechParticipant]

Women have always fallen back on traditionalism. They’d marry, they’d divorce, they’d collect child support payments that didn’t get expensive unless the number of children was large. In the 1980’s they all got together and upped those payments. They take what society gives them and steals our only ways of defense. THAT’s female traditionalism…and it is alive and well!

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

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