Women that try to flirt with husbands/Marriage deal.

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Please excuse the bad grammar in this post since it’s 12:46AM right now. But I have two guestions, but this may involve a little bit into my personal life, so forgive me for this long post, and the jumps between stories.

A couple of days ago, my mom complained about a coworker that was trying to flirt with my step dad into fooling around behind my moms back. My mom would go into a rant about how she is a slut, and that she is a gold digger and so on and so forth. After about a half hour of ranting, and me nodding my head, My mom told me that, If my step dad ever cheating on her and decides to go live with her, then she would divorce him and take my sister with her despite the fact that not to long ago, she would try to convince me that marriage is something that people should work towards, and that my “life experience” is limited because I live in a small town, despite the fact that I had traveled before lots of time when I was 15 from my home town to Calgary, and down at the US with some of my friends since I live nearby the border, and there is this thing called the world wide web, where I can talk to other men here such as yourselves about you guys life experiences.

If I try to use logic and reasoning to explain why marriage is a bad deal for guys, and women themselves sometimes, she would counter my agruments with something like “What do you know about marriage, that’s like a guy giving advice on how to raise a kid even if he doesn’t have one” or “I don’t like your worldview because it’s based on reality, and that If you keep on talking about in a negative way like a bitter person, then it’s going to affect my worldview too.”

After that whole mess in a couple days, my mom talked to me in private telling me that contrary to what she advocating, she now wishes that she had never married in the first place, and that she never had kids at all because she doesn’t want to do any more house work even though I clean up after myself, and that I work 10 hours a day so I can’t use up dishes even If I wanted to. and that she is going though menopause, and that for some reason, she keeps on stating that she is depressed even though she sits on her butt doing god knows what on that Windows XP machine. Ending that sad life story, and now here are my two questions.

1) Why do women try to flirt and sleep around with husbands at age 40, when they can have sex with guys my age? Is it because they enjoy stealing walking wallets from one another, or is there more to this then I can comprehend.

2) Why on earth would women try to justfy the idea of marriage when it’s clear that they know better. (This is a dumb question, But I want to hear what you guys have to say about this kind of situation because I’m still trying to find out If I’m missing something about the nature of women still.”

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[RoyDalParticipant]

It all comes down to sociobiology. We are genetically programmed to maximize our reproductive success. For women, this means nailing down a man who will support her and the kids until they can go out on their own.

1) The woman is going after a proven provider. She is also cutting out another woman whose children might compete with hers for survival.

2) Marriage is her best way of producing viable children.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Some people in bad marriages (90%+ of all marriages) promote marriage for self-justification. They want as many people to partake in their misery in order to make it widespread therefore giving them some kind of comfort that they are not the only ones living in misery. This is similar to the way socialists think (equality in misery).
This way, your mom can take the “high moral road” and say that even though she is miserable, that is the price to pay for having children and being part of society, and therefore her misery is not her fault.
We married/divorced guys here will admit we were stupid/unwise/uninformed/naive and even though we will find fault with society and/or women, we will not promote marriage and will own our mistakes as our own. So, even though we might envy other men for their freedom and the fact that they did not loose time and money in marriages, we do not want them to be our equals in misery. We want to help them avoid our mistakes, which is why we are here sharing our stories and thoughts.

Do not get married! And don’t try to understand women, even if it’s your mother. You cannot help her because she doesn’t ant to be helped. She may love you, but she is still trying to get you to partake in her misery even if she might not be doing it on purpose. Just nod your head and ignore every word.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

1. Money.
2. Money and power.

People don’t like truth and many will hate you for even mentioning it, as they live in a world of illusion. For example, look how popular religion is and how it gives people an ‘oasis’ to take refuge in. Or in our case the number of men and women who think that marriage is great.

John Woods 13 wrote:

Just nod your head and ignore every word.

Like John says, don’t take it to heart. I remember my ex-partner’s mother complaining sometimes that it was ‘too nice outside’. Some people don’t know anything other than complaining.

It’s up to you to come to peace with the world and it’s all in how you view it.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10909]

To answer your first question, you are right that they are going after a proven provider but also it is an ego thing. To take a man away from another woman is a huge ego push for a lot of women. They don’t care if the man is married or not. As a matter of fact, married is even BETTER. Why? Who knows what goes on on the little hamster wheel running in their heads. The men have no idea that they are being scammed. They believe that at their age that they “still got it” when in fact the young girl only cares about the money and his ability to treat her like a princess. Hugh Hefner is a perfect example of this. Do you think ANY of them honeys are partying at the mansion because of his looks? Do you think they are all waiting in line to ride Hef’s Carousel because they find 80 year old meat sexy? He’s a resource that they hope to tap into for money, fame or furthering their careers.
To try and answer your second question, think of it this way; Who benefits in a marital contract? WOMEN! There isn’t anything in a marriage contract that is for the benefit of the man. The women know it but they aren’t going to tell you that. They justify it to men simply to keep the gravy train going. Without marriage, women would actually have to accomplish something in order to survive. Something other than lying, deceiving and cheating. Women are praying that men never figure out what a scam marriage is and they don’t want forums such as this educating young men about it. Furthermore they will provide you with all the premarital porn-star like sex you want in hopes that you believe that that is how life with them will be if you marry them. IT’S NOT!

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[AttonParticipant]

2) Why on earth would women try to justfy the idea of marriage when it’s clear that they know better. (This is a dumb question, But I want to hear what you guys have to say about this kind of situation because I’m still trying to find out If I’m missing something about the nature of women still.”

It’s a delusion that feeds some of the hard coded needs women have. They want to believe in the fairy tale because that’s all they have, fewer women than men can power through the fairy tale and spend there lives on something of value.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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