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Always hearing stuff like that… Just because they take into consideration other things like wealth and status, doestn mean they are less superficial. An unattractive man can suddenly became attractive once she realized he has other things going on for him. IN THIS CASE they are not superficial. in comparison to man, we see what we like and that is pretty much it. attraction is there based on this. we dont get attracted once we found out she is loaded, famous, desired by others… Its another lie that everyone is listening to since the childhood. Women dont care as much on looks. Yes they do, if you lack on it, you HAVE to bring something equally good to the table – let it be money, status, charisma… we are all superficial, but they say women arent because they got turned on with other stuff just as much (if not more), just another lie…. i also think that a hot attractive guy who has nothing else going on for him can easily attract a woman, but once the initial attraction and honeymoon wears off she will be gone. On the other hand a man who is average or below on looks, but have other assets, will have harder time attracting her (until she learns about that), but once he made it she will most likely stay around if he keeps these assets. Hell she may even fall in love! When asked what is it about him, she will say there is something about him but she cant point a finger to what exactly… she doesnt know.. another lie they tell themself and others…
Similar thing happens when she is not initially attracted to a guy but later founds out that majority or all her other girl friends are. When she found out he is desirable by all other girls that they fancy him in one way or another, then they must be right! He is hot, she is attracted now. Happened to me once. Met a group of friends through my friends ex-gf, and we introduced. I liked one girl there so I showed interest in her and she blew me off, not in a rude way but she was not interested. UNTIL… Funny thing is that other 2 girls liked me, once wanted to dance with me and the other one was very into me and wanted to know me better… After the one who blew me off learned about it she suddenly realized she IS interested… she even sat down in front of me and started a conversation – like i was a different guy. What did I do? I blew her off and felt good about it….
Another funny story that happened to me… My ears are sticking out a bit – similar to Will Smith’s. I was quite unconfident about it, for a long long time since I was picked on because of this until I came out of high school. So when I was 6 months into my new relationship… lying on the bed, all of sudden from nowhere she grabbed my ear, pinned it back to my head and said ‘what if they glue them back like this’… I was shocked and speechless. She has never mentioned my ears one way or another before. I should say ‘well I think in that case I would get much hotter gf’ or ‘then i would be a completely different guy’ but I rather didnt respond. i was asking myself what was the purpose of that? i mean really… WHY? I have the same ears from the first time we met unlike her ass… she mentioned my ears for couple more times after that – like calling me ‘earman’ or just grab an ear in the bed and said ‘ear’. Subtle way to tell me she doesnt fancy my ears and that I should do something about it?! Or was that just a s~~~ test? I don’t know. I have never reacted to it. Only one time I just said ‘whats your deal with my ears?’ she said ‘nothing’…. Right… I was born that way, and they are not growing bigger every month unlike your ass c~~~.
lying on the bed, all of sudden from nowhere she grabbed my ear, pinned it back to my head and said ‘what if they glue them back like this’… I was shocked and speechless. She has never mentioned my ears one way or another before. I should say ‘well I think in that case I would get much hotter gf’ or ‘then i would be a completely different guy’ but I rather didnt respond. i was asking myself what was the purpose of that? i mean really… WHY? I have the same ears from the first time we met unlike her ass… she mentioned my ears for couple more times after that – like calling me ‘earman’ or just grab an ear in the bed and said ‘ear’. Subtle way to tell me she doesnt fancy my ears and that I should do something about it?! Or was that just a s~~~ test? I don’t know. I have never reacted to it. Only one time I just said ‘whats your deal with my ears?’ she said ‘nothing’…. Right… I was born that way, and they are not growing bigger every month unlike your ass c~~~.
I’ll give you reasons why she does this….
1. She thinks she’s funny.
2. She wants to make you self conscious so you don’t exude confidence and attract her competition.
3. If she makes you aware of your own flaws, you’ll be less likely to notice hers.
4. She’s a bitch.
5. She actually has a problem with the way your ears look and doesn’t want to hurt your feelings.My solution? Honestly? Dump her. I wouldn’t put up with that for a day. If the pussy is really so nice, and everything else seems like a net gain, it’s your call. However, that kind of wearing down will result with her owning your ass. It’s all psychological bulls~~~ with women. The sad truth is, they imagine we’re too slow to catch it. The women with the best imaginations end up with the most cats.
… she grabbed my ear, pinned it back to my head and said ‘what if they glue them back like this’…
She threatened you with mutilation. Later on she said it was “nothing.” I see red flags all over this one. If you are lucky, she is looking for another man to replace you, and she will leave you undamaged when she leaves you.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
A woman can sit in her place in sweatpants with her hair still messed up from bed seven hours ago, but if you want to go OUT anywhere she has to “get ready”. For who? You can have to look at her torn up appearance all day, but for everybody else she needs to look good. With that in mind, there is no limit to how superficial they can be. By constantly changing the standards by which THEY grade everybody else they can maintain their perceived superiority and overestimate their worth.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
Anonymous5I have the same ears from the first time we met unlike her ass
This is the key. She’s making a pre-emptive strike. She’s creating a false premise in response to your current or future comments about her ass.
She’s far more aware of her ass size than you. It’s highly likely her female friends have already noticed and commented.
Nice diversion red-herring tactic!
She’s establishing that she’s sooooooooooo accepting of your “flaws” and you’ll be an absolute shallow hypocrite now if you ever bring up the subject of her expanding body mass.
You’re being trained and conditioned in ways you can’t imagine.I have the same ears from the first time we met unlike her ass
This is the key. She’s making a pre-emptive strike. She’s creating a false premise in response to your current or future comments about her ass.She’s far more aware of her ass size than you. It’s highly likely her female friends have already noticed and commented.Nice diversion red-herring tactic!She’s establishing that she’s sooooooooooo accepting of your “flaws” and you’ll be an absolute shallow hypocrite now if you ever bring up the subject of her expanding body mass.You’re being trained and conditioned in ways you can’t imagine.
Tis post makes a lot of sense! A LOT!
tnx dude
An attractive woman with a lousy personality won’t keep a man most of the time.
So to us, it’s not just looks. (looks are just the first thing we notice to begin the attraction process. )
We like HER, her looks, her demeanor.I don’t care how you slice it, when a guy is suddenly worthy when a woman finds out he has s~~~, whereas before he was just ‘S~~~’, Weeeelp,……..that’s just gooooold diggery!!!
He can be an asshole, or ugly and old, money makes all well.
Where does loving the man come in?
When are we not a tool?You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.
OP, I think you are over thinking the ear thing. And so are some of the other posters, Wayyy over-analysing s~~~. If your hair is long, they will say something, if you got your shirt stained at BK, they will mention it.
Your a man, you are stronger than that!
You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.
I see a lot of guys freaking out over the ear thing, saying that OP should dump her, but I think that’s a little rash. Of course, OP is perfectly entitled and justified to be upset, and is perfectly justified in breaking up with her (you can break up with anyone for any reason you want).
It seems like a petty thing to break up over though, were I in your position. If I were you, I’d tell her I felt upset and you didn’t appreciate it; and by how she reacts to that, I’d know whether she’s worth keeping around or not.
Also, this doesn’t excuse anything, but it’s kind of a stereotype that lovers say silly things to one another, especially after sex. No, you don’t have to put up with anything you don’t want to, but you have to make a value judgement here, and decide what’s most important to you—no one else can help you here.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
she grabbed my ear, pinned it back to my head and said ‘what if they glue them back like this’… I was shocked and speechless. She has never mentioned my ears one way or another before. I should say ‘well I think in that case I would get much hotter gf’
That was a s~~~ test, what happens if she criticizes/judges/shames you?
The “get a hotter girlfriend” response would have set clear boundaries and consequences.Women are like the Federal Reserve, pumping in lies to keep the game going, little longer. The more the lying they do, the more the game is becoming undone for them.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
OP, I think you are over thinking the ear thing. And so are some of the other posters, Wayyy over-analysing s~~~. If your hair is long, they will say something, if you got your shirt stained at BK, they will mention it.
Your a man, you are stronger than that!
Mmhm, and if he kept mentioning to her how fat she looked and pinched her sides “what if they just take it out right here?”
How do you think she would handle that s~~~? You’d be the worlds biggest asshole, and all her girlfriends and white knights would flock to her side.
He’s supposed to just take that s~~~ from her? Suck it up? C’mon man, that’s bulls~~~ and you know it. That’ll just enable her on other things.
OP, I think you are over thinking the ear thing. And so are some of the other posters, Wayyy over-analysing s~~~. If your hair is long, they will say something, if you got your shirt stained at BK, they will mention it.
Your a man, you are stronger than that!Mmhm, and if he kept mentioning to her how fat she looked and pinched her sides “what if they just take it out right here?”
How do you think she would handle that s~~~? You’d be the worlds biggest asshole, and all her girlfriends and white knights would flock to her side.
He’s supposed to just take that s~~~ from her? Suck it up? C’mon man, that’s bulls~~~ and you know it. That’ll just enable her on other things.great response 🙂 I completely agree…
The only difference is that I was born with ears like that, she was not born with a fat ass…great response I completely agree…
The only difference is that I was born with ears like that, she was not born with a fat ass…You read my mind, I was actually going to point that out, but decided to not add it.
Has she improved?
People who cannot control their own flaws/problems will externalize their anxiety over it by attempting to control others. This is typical of female reactionary psychology.
There is truth in what the other posters have said that she is trying to use pre-emptive diversion to keep you off-balance. That is typical defensive social posture for women. They use it because they know it works for them. Women can make up a dumpster full of excuses and get away with anything via that method. Usually it involves playing the victim or the authority in a discussion.
For women their problem is that they are rarely an authority when it comes to discussion with men. Most men resent women trying to pretend they know what they are talking about, but a lot of women will never admit they are wrong — hence the result is often irrational and needless argument over the most mundane of topics. It is not that you as a man are wrong, but it is that she as a woman using authority logic that she must be right. Women see men have these kind of argumentative debates, and think they are effectively able to mimic it. They are not. The results are often either amusing or disasters.
Women consider themselves an authority on things like appearance. The anxiety that society and media teaches them originates from both mate seeking wetware wiring and massive social brainwashing. It results in women then seeking perfection in their own appearance. The more flaws they find in themselves, the less value they have for themselves, and they then apply this in how they value themselves against their mating choices. Yes this is fact, and it has been the subject of numerous studies on human social behaviors and mating.
You can read more on some of those studies if you like. One branch of logic is an extension of the recent American study that was done on how young girls pick who their partners at a dance. Researchers looked at how teen girls will size up the potential of males to dance with by the girls rating themselves against equally rated boys in the room. For example if a female thinks she is only a 5 out of 10, then a female will first try to pair with a boy they see as being on that equal level. Boys on the other hand tend to fixate on the 9 or 10 rated girl. The girls long term thinking when asked was that the boy they pick can be improved upon by the girls influence. So yes even at a such a early age, females are working on ways to change things around them. This sort of social ambition is different then the economic or engineering ambitions that tend to influence males. While both genders are subject to material conditioning by way of the “capitalism consumption is good” propaganda, it is the underlying influences that screw up females and make them such horrible life partners.
The early childhood conditioning of self valuation is also part of the problem. It is why many females are so rarely self-analytical. It is not that females are not capable of it, but the use of it as a social tool is redirected by the importance placed on female social manipulation applied at such an early age. You girls are told it is good to manipulate or use social abuse as a tool before those same girls are taught about the importance of ethics or morality. Young girls get the priorities of such early teachings in the wrong order. Little girls are taught to be liars and deceptive long before they are taught the consequences of such behaviors. Young boys are usually taught this in reverse, so therefore boys are more likely to see things like honor and honesty as being important, and by way of their own logic more easily understand why lying, cheating, and stealing are wrong and counter-productive. If you look into the life history of many psychopaths and sociopaths you will find they have a similar childhood experience to western females. The commonality between the two life paths are clearly compatible, but not excepted within our politically correct based culture.
One need only look at the tomboy childhood experience to see how this works. Tomboy women pick up on the traits and ambitions of boys, as tomboys relate better to the logic that boys develop. Tomboys also tend to make the best life partners, because they understand and develop empathy for the male experience of life. Regular females are taught from early teens that what men think does not matter. Females place themselves on an elitist pedestal by way of the princess lifestyle that gets early emulation with girls. That role model is the primary brainwashing tool of females, because early commercialism practices create it, and later commercialism keeps those women part of a captive thought pattern that keeps them habitual consumers.
The anxiety of material performance that women pick up as a result of this brainwashing will effect much of their thought processes for the rest of their life. They will in turn impose the same kind of social conditioning on their own children. Like most victims of cult training (which is used in modern marketing) the females never see themselves or or their beliefs as flawed, because like a cultist they are taught never to question their own thoughts or core beliefs as like the cultist the woman is never wrong. Similar methods can be used with men, but men are generally more cynical by nature and far more self-analytical of their behavior on a constant basis. So we can see our own flaws, even if we do not always feel a need to address them. We may grudgingly do the right thing when called upon, despite it going against the grain of our need for self=preservation. This all comes form the childhood ethical priority treatment of boys. Tomboy women will react in similar logical choice. Western women will not, except in the rare case where they will sacrifice for their child.
Women generally cannot see flaws in their own case, and do not react to the flaws (either in themselves or in others close to them) because western women have been conditioned not to do so. This is one of the reasons women go ballistic when the behavior of western female thoughts is questioned. Like the cult member, they are taught to react in this irrational and often victim like manner. It is all they are ever taught to do, since it so often works. Some more contrived women develop other more stealth oriented ways of avoidance, but those women are often psychopaths. In fact in women who are proud to be bytches you will more easily see how the idea of ethic and morality have been completely boxed and discarded by those women, without any expression of guilt or remorse over the damage they cause to others by using such behavior. This is becoming a wider reality in western culture, which is resulted in the growth of women who see the “bytch” lifestyle as perfectly normal and acceptable, when clearly from a social practice point of view it is destructive to family, friends, and even innocent strangers. This is the new cornerstone on which most evil done by women is justified to themselves. The ideal of privilege that can be practiced by men has been twisted into a new kind of logic that makes modern women so cold-blooded and impossible to help when it comes to pointing out their mental illnesses. First you have to deprogram a woman before you can teach her anything socially positive, not unlike deprogramming a cult survivor.
The brainwashing effect is obvious to anyone who has ever studied psychology or philosophy. Ironically there are women I have met who are practicing psyche professionals, but still lack any ability to analyze things in the big picture context necessary to help someone with mental health issues. The really good head doctors are almost exclusively male.
Misdirection is the standard emotional defense tactic employed by 95% of western women. Try pointing that out to them in the next “debate” you have with them and see what kind of reaction you get. The results will be telling as to how damaged that female is.
"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"
Nice post @ironheart
I read it all.
Do you study psychology?Has she improved?
She is actually an ex-gf. I just mentioned her in the ‘ears story’ because it relates to the topic.
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