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  • #493678
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    Shaunoz
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    As I transitioned into red-pill, I initially concluded as many do that all that women care about is money, and absolutely nothing is sacred to them.

    The purpose of the human female is to usurp the resources of the male.

    The purpose of the human male is to create.

    Everything around us has been created by the hand of man. Everything. Some will argue that women create children with the help of man. That’s questionable at best since it requires no work on her part to get pregnant (just lay there). No work on her part to have the child as it’s an autonomic function, the child is coming out whether she likes it or not (women in coma’s give birth). Women hang around after birth predominately because the children are her meal ticket.

    Money is a subset. Their function is to acquire resources through the male because they are capable of little on their own. Seducing the male for those resources is their only tool.

    SO TRUE !! SO TRUE !!

    I often see women leading around their blue-pill boyfriends and it really reminds me of a pet being led around. It is sort of like women showing off to other women “look at the one I got, he’s my pet/slave/economic-resource and he doesn’t even know it”. they glance knowingly at each other as they all know the game being played. It is only the blue-pill men who don’t see it. They think they are running the show/relationshop/world – <sigh> – poor misguided fools… But when immunised by the red-pill suddenly the world is available again to enjoy !

    #493689
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    Sky-O
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    It’s Subjective Vaginal Valuation:

    They are aware that their vaginas have depreciating market value.

    Therefore attempt to assign value to themselves based on how much money & resources they are able to extract from a man or multiple men.

    It’s a narcissistic game. Held together by their greed, manipulation & sociopathic instincts.

    #493715
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    FunInTheSun
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    There’s one thing that confuses me: why do women date criminals—especially violent criminals who indiscriminately kill people?

    I’m sure that most people understand how f~~~ed up it would be for someone to steal their car or rob their house. So why would anyone encourage such behavior? I never could understand the concept of a f~~~ed up situation being okay as long as it doesn’t happen to me. It’s just f~~~ed up, period.

    There’s men in gangs who will either sell harmful drugs to a child or kill a child if (s)he standing in front of their enemies and feel no remorse—not one iota of remorse about it. Yet there are women who are proud of these men and will eagerly spread their legs for them.

    If you’re dating someone who doesn’t care if a child is shot to death, why would you think that such relationship could be meaningful or long-lasting? Why would such a man be your top choice for being the father of your children? If he doesn’t care about killing random people, wouldn’t you be in great danger if he stopped caring about you or you did something to p~~~ him off? These are the questions I want to ask these ladies (who can easily choose to have boyfriend with a legitimate job and won’t end up in prison).

    Personally, I would love to have some more money, but not if it means dating a woman who steals from others, sells illegal drugs, and murders children. I don’t love money so much that I would praise the gifts that were gained from acts of injustice.

    "I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

    #493724
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    MACHO
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    There’s one thing that confuses me: why do women date criminals—especially violent criminals who indiscriminately kill people

    The link between sex and violence is a known fact. Women get excited! Also they paradoxically must feel safer with such men that at the drop of a hat can snuff someone. It’s like having a bodyguard with a licence to kill.

    You must own a better Crystal ball than I
    #493728
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    NerdTunneler
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    The asset women value the most is a rich husband. Good thing we keep our own money now that we are going MGTOW. I seem to have a bit more money now that the wife left. Hmmm. Its daunting on what to do with my money when I had been conditioned to spend it for someone else…It has been a long time since I spent something on myself but I want to grow what little I have into something bigger. Just preparing for myself. I think having much money for oneself is also a “F~~~ You” to ex wife. Someday when everything in my life is in order, Im going to buy a motorcycle and go wherever the f~~~ I want however long I want. Im starting to dream…Yes…

    I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

    #493751
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    Lupus
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    There’s one thing that confuses me: why do women date criminals—especially violent criminals who indiscriminately kill people?

    I’m sure that most people understand how f~~~ed up it would be for someone to steal their car or rob their house. So why would anyone encourage such behavior? I never could understand the concept of a f~~~ed up situation being okay as long as it doesn’t happen to me. It’s just f~~~ed up, period.

    There’s men in gangs who will either sell harmful drugs to a child or kill a child if (s)he standing in front of their enemies and feel no remorse—not one iota of remorse about it. Yet there are women who are proud of these men and will eagerly spread their legs for them.

    If you’re dating someone who doesn’t care if a child is shot to death, why would you think that such relationship could be meaningful or long-lasting? Why would such a man be your top choice for being the father of your children? If he doesn’t care about killing random people, wouldn’t you be in great danger if he stopped caring about you or you did something to p~~~ him off? These are the questions I want to ask these ladies (who can easily choose to have boyfriend with a legitimate job and won’t end up in prison).

    Personally, I would love to have some more money, but not if it means dating a woman who steals from others, sells illegal drugs, and murders children. I don’t love money so much that I would praise the gifts that were gained from acts of injustice.

    This might help:
    http://sheddingoftheego.com/2015/08/23/hybristophilia-the-female-attraction-to-violence/

    #493754
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    NoMore
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    What women want is control. During the marriage they do their utmost to control you through sex, finances, and children. You become an indentured servant whose debt will be finally paid in full at your funeral. If you try to leave early, she will demand and use every resource to excise whatever debt, monetary or misery, she feels you owe and that she deserves.

    When you file for divorce, you remove yourself from direct control and she has to use indirect control through the kids, money extraction, property, and just about anything she can think of. You had a fishing trip planned for months, well I just started a new job and I can’t find a babysitter. You’ll have to cancel and take care of them. You found a handyman to repair the drywall, well geez, I’m suddenly busy that day. So, you need to leave work early and be at the house. You call to talk to you kid, geez, I just put him down for a nap. You call back later and, well darn, he wasn’t feeling well. So, I put him to bed early.

    When you’re living in a friend’s bedroom and she’s living in your house rent free, she doesn’t expect to have to pay the bills. Despite that you separated bank accounts and gave her a generous amount of money, she isn’t spending HER money on the bills. Your only recourse is to pay the bills so your kid has lights, AC, and TV. You can’t keep your kid at your friends house because you only have a bedroom. So, you are forced to endure hours of badgering, snide remarks, and insults just to spend time with your kid.

    I have truly had my eyes opened to how much a woman wants control. They have a desperation to retain it after you remove yourself and will use any damn thing they can to attempt to exert it over your life.

    A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

    #493801
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    BrainPilot
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    a half century ago, men compared themselves to each other based on how much they earned. Earnings are a measure of performance and this is one way to score our performance against each other. Men considered themselves a success when they earned enough money that their wives didn’t have to work. Women also compare themselves to each other, but their measure of success is when they marry a man who makes enough that they don’t have to work.

    It’s about the money, but not only about the money. Women compare themselves based on the achievements of their children, the amount of attention they get from men, the things the get away with using pussy pass, the size of their t~~~, ass etc. It never stops.

    With many women, including my ex, I’m convinced that what they really want is someone to be responsible for them. Basically what mine wanted was to have a responsible adult just adopt her and allow her to go back to living the way she did when she was a teenager. We fought over money, and her unwillingness to get and hold a job after we got married. We eventually got divorced over that. But while we were still married, in one of our few civil conversations about it, she actually said that she couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t just give her an allowance every Friday. She argued that she wasn’t asking for much and that I could easily afford it, which was true at the time.

    But for me, the amount wasn’t the point. I was already paying both halves of all the bills. The point for me was that I was looking for an adult partner. I wasn’t willing to be used like a parent that way by someone fully capable of earning their own money, but determined to live like a child.

    She couldn’t balance a check book, or manage a credit card (like an undisciplined teen ager). But given someone else to be responsible for making sure all the bills were paid, and providing her a small allowance, she would have been free to resume the life she had as a 15 year old girl.

    If it had been straight up greed, she would have been trying to get as much as she possibly could have. But that wan’t how it happened. She’d easily settled for a relatively inexpensive ring. And the amount she wanted for an allowance really wasn’t extravagant. For her, it really was about just escaping adult responsibilities.

    I mentioned to a marriage counselor once that women like this seemed to be the only ones I ever attracted, and asked if it was possible to just acknowledge that this is as good as it was going to get and just try to work with it. Marriage counselor pointed out that eventually, children grow up and leave (the whole purpose of the parent child relationship is that the child one day grows up and leaves). I realized that the sooner that occurred, the less it would cost me. So, I ended it pretty quickly after that.

    I haven’t done anymore adoptions since, but I’ve been presented with plenty of opportunities. They don’t necessarily need a rich parent, just a super-responsible one.

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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    Anonymous
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    I think the term the OP was searching for was Whoring. All women are essentially whores when you get right down to it, as for the most part the highest bidder wins.

    #494059
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    Eyeswideopen
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    a half century ago, men compared themselves to each other based on how much they earned. Earnings are a measure of performance and this is one way to score our performance against each other. Men considered themselves a success when they earned enough money that their wives didn’t have to work. Women also compare themselves to each other, but their measure of success is when they marry a man who makes enough that they don’t have to work.

    It’s about the money, but not only about the money. Women compare themselves based on the achievements of their children, the amount of attention they get from men, the things the get away with using pussy pass, the size of their t~~~, ass etc. It never stops.

    With many women, including my ex, I’m convinced that what they really want is someone to be responsible for them. Basically what mine wanted was to have a responsible adult just adopt her and allow her to go back to living the way she did when she was a teenager. We fought over money, and her unwillingness to get and hold a job after we got married. We eventually got divorced over that. But while we were still married, in one of our few civil conversations about it, she actually said that she couldn’t understand why I wouldn’t just give her an allowance every Friday. She argued that she wasn’t asking for much and that I could easily afford it, which was true at the time.

    But for me, the amount wasn’t the point. I was already paying both halves of all the bills. The point for me was that I was looking for an adult partner. I wasn’t willing to be used like a parent that way by someone fully capable of earning their own money, but determined to live like a child.

    She couldn’t balance a check book, or manage a credit card (like an undisciplined teen ager). But given someone else to be responsible for making sure all the bills were paid, and providing her a small allowance, she would have been free to resume the life she had as a 15 year old girl.

    If it had been straight up greed, she would have been trying to get as much as she possibly could have. But that wan’t how it happened. She’d easily settled for a relatively inexpensive ring. And the amount she wanted for an allowance really wasn’t extravagant. For her, it really was about just escaping adult responsibilities.

    I mentioned to a marriage counselor once that women like this seemed to be the only ones I ever attracted, and asked if it was possible to just acknowledge that this is as good as it was going to get and just try to work with it. Marriage counselor pointed out that eventually, children grow up and leave (the whole purpose of the parent child relationship is that the child one day grows up and leaves). I realized that the sooner that occurred, the less it would cost me. So, I ended it pretty quickly after that.

    I haven’t done anymore adoptions since, but I’ve been presented with plenty of opportunities. They don’t necessarily need a rich parent, just a super-responsible one.

    Holy crap Brainpilot.

    Your ex and my ex sound very much alike. Both operated at the level of a 15 year old in terms of responsibility.

    The only difference was I forced my wife to work – her retaliation was to jump in bed with a Chad; just like a petulant 15 year old would do. Lucky my marriage lasted less than 2 years. The divorce cost me next to nothing because she moved back in with mom – she was not money motivated in the sense of equity; she just wants a roof over her head and a small allowance. Mom would provide that as she had up to the point we got married.

    My relationship dynamic seems to be the same. I’m super responsible, but I seem to attract wayward charity cases that are looking to be adopted. I wonder if it’s being a physician gives off a codependent vibe?

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

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    Anonymous
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    There’s one thing that confuses me: why do women date criminals—especially violent criminals who indiscriminately kill people?

    Easy peasy man, they feel safe with violent men. That’s what one told me.

    I’m super responsible, but I seem to attract wayward charity cases that are looking to be adopted

    I’m not a physician like you and BP though stable. I used to allow that type into my life. Many women want a decent guy plus that secret Chad lurking in the shadows. Chad overcomes any and all obstacles to getting that pussy.

    #494123
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    BrainPilot
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    Dang Eyeswideopen,
    you a physician too? I didn’t realize. I’m guessing ophthalmology?

    my theory is that women have short term and long term goals for relationships. Like the differing short and long term goals men have, the short and long term goals of women are different. I might like a crazy nympho stripper for a short term girlfriend in my younger years, but there ain’t no way I’m wifing that up of the long term. Long term (if I was going to do long term at all), I would be looking for good mother for future kids. I equate this to a short term drive across town, I’ll take a motorcycle (fast, sexy, sporty, fun…). But for a trip across Asia, the winnebago is the more appropriate choice. Not fast, sporty or sexy, but way more comfortable and reliable for a month long drive.

    I think it’s a similar issue for women. Rock stars, bikers, jail birds etc are great for the short term tingles, but essentially worthless for long term provider/protector. The difference, of course, is that women have been told their whole lives that they can have it all. And they feel entitled to all of it, simultaneously. They are also indecisive as hell, and very short sighted. So they are unwilling to make the decision until the wall makes it for them.

    So, they screw all the bikers, rock stars and criminals they can in their 20’s, while telling themselves that they can change him. Then, they frantically try to close on a long term provider/protector as the wall approaches. For many though, they still want to keep the criminal on the side…

    Some are straight up god diggers who want nothing but money. Some are just children in adult bodies who want a man to be the adult and relieve them of any adult responsibilities. Many don’t have a specific idea of what they want, only that whatever it takes to make them happy, a man who marries them is obligated to provide it.

    Once upon a time, long term providers required virgins in order to make that commitment. A divorced woman could never hope to be wifed up a second time, and society’s rules and the risk of pregnancy kept their behavior in check. Now that those external limits on their behavior have been removed, we have the behavior that we see today. For its part, the government encourages them to do it by showering them with cash and prizes for behaving this way. I suspect it’s because the billions that are transferred from male (earning) hands to female (spending) hands is good for the economy, and a good way to keep men working and producing taxable income.

    50 years ago, responsible men would have been the prime catch just for being reliable. Today, we are just a target to be ‘harvested’ by the divorce industry if we are still blind and gullible enough to get married.

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #494137
    Eyeswideopen
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    Dang Eyeswideopen,
    you a physician too? I didn’t realize. I’m guessing ophthalmology?

    ……..
    50 years ago, responsible men would have been the prime catch just for being reliable. Today, we are just a target to be ‘harvested’ by the divorce industry if we are still blind and gullible enough to get married.

    Brain Pilot;

    Emergency Medicine + General Practitioner

    I agree 100% with your above prescribed theory. It really is sad, but you are correct – we are just to be harvested between Chad dalliances. The beauty of this racket, is if she miscalculated, which she is highly likely to do, Daddy Government will step in and pickup the slack. I escaped without kids and a short marriage.

    I got burned by a DD redhead that was an 8.5/10 – looking back, given my conservative upbringing circa 1950s Europe sensibilities(parents), I did not stand a chance. LOL. One burned by a fire-bush, twice shy.

    I know now to enjoy women as temporary dalliances in today’s society. I’m late 30s and not quite done with women on this level. Lesson learned.

    - Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

    #494163
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    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
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    don’t feel bad eyes…
    Mine was a life sized barbie. blond hair, blue eyes, off the chain in bed. But couldn’t manage a check book or a credit card to save her life.

    Marriage was a constant 2 year long fight over her inability to get and keep a job beginning immediately after the honeymoon. Reasoning, threatening and bribing all failed to get her off the sofa. After almost 2 years, I gave up and walked. It worked out reasonably well for me. She was so immature and irresponsible that when she got the divorce papers, she just ignored them on the assumption that nothing could proceed without her signature somewhere. In my state, if your spouse ignores divorce papers for 60 days, you can get a default judgement on whatever terms you want on the 61st day. Needless to say, my terms did not include alimony or spousal support… 😀 It took another couple months for her to realize that the divorce had come and gone, and the signature that she expected me to have to pay her off for, was unnecessary.

    A few months after extracting myself from that trap, I was able to buy a house. A few months after that, I paid property taxes on the house for the following year, which appeared on the internet on tax rolls as an address next to my name. A few weeks after that, like some kind of miracle totally out of the blue, she called and told me that she had thought it over and decided to give me another chance…LOL.

    I agree with your assessment as temporary dalliances. That will keep you safe. If you are late 30s, childless and red pill enough to be here, you’ll be retired in early 50s…

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

    #494550
    Stealth
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    In my state, if your spouse ignores divorce papers for 60 days, you can get a default judgement on whatever terms you want on the 61st day.

    Same in my state. Except not in practice.

    Initially, after explaining I needed to file first to avoid alimony payments since wife had fled the state, my lawyer explained that if she did not respond in time I could name the terms of the separation, which were going to be we get from our marriage what we each put in, rather than a blind 50% split which would carve another six figures from my flesh and simply hand it to her. My version sounded fair: she wanted out, she could take what she put in and get out.

    Contacted the lawyer on next steps when his office informed me she was past due with responding. But then the story changed. Yes it’s the rule but in practice it doesn’t play, and the judges wouldn’t really follow through on it. Everyone was dead-set on her getting that 50%, even if they had to hold exW’s hand through her lawyer’s goof-ups to make sure she got it. Lawyer called up a legal clerk he knew and had me on speakerphone, confirming behind the scenes that if we moved to set the terms it would not be honored since defending myself on those legal terms felt like a “s~~~ty move”. Nobody worried if her whole divorce program was one giant s~~~ty move.

    There were other easter eggs also, like the surprise 20k student loan debt she entered marriage with (and forgot to mention until after we were married) “didn’t count” when adding up our starting marriage assets, also the tuition she asked me for to cover her masters degree a few months before the divorce “didn’t count”. I put off my own graduate degree for this s~~~. Also tax loopholes she refused to cover her part in, bringing her divorce winnings to quite a bit more than 50%.

    "Once you’ve taken care of the basics, there’s very little in this world for which your life is worth deferring." -David Hansson. "It’s not when women are mean or nasty that anything is out of the ordinary. It’s when they are NICE to you that you have to be on high alert..." -Jackinov.

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