Work fingers to the bone until at least 75…

[It’sallbsParticipant]

All for a pension of £122 per week.

https://www.davidicke.com/article/456716/britain-pays-retirees-worst-state-pension-developed-world-basic-payout-122-30-week

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[joetechParticipant]

Life in the free world. How did the human race manage to f~~~ up the 21st century so completely? I really feel for young people these days.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Anonymous 1]

Just think, all that money they gave to immigrants, could have gone to welfare for retirees.

[Anonymous 7]

Anonymous wrote:

Just think, all that money they gave to immigrants, could have gone to welfare for retirees.

Yup.

Do not rely on the Government to supply your retirement.
Especially you younger dudes, start saving.

[Will RobinsonParticipant 3479]

Just defund all the women’s programmes like the US is doing. Problem solved

May you walk in peace and happiness, May you and all mgtow, near and far walk in peace and happiness.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Anonymous wrote:

Just think, all that money they gave to “future cheaply bought voters”, could have gone to welfare for “short term expensive votes”.

Fixed to demonstrate their reasoning.

Will Robinson wrote:

Just defund all the women’s programmes like the US is doing.

Taking the vote away from non-taxpayers would be more effective.

[Anonymous 1]

I tried to be very frugal my entire adulthood.
After divorce rape, I lost half of mutual funds, stocks, bonds, 401k, checking, savings, home equity (all 100% my earnings funding them…she kept her stuff) and a portion of military retirement.

And I get to pay spousal support for the next 10 years, as a thank you for my paying for her master’s degree so she can be a community college professor.

I figure I’ll have to work until at least noon on the day they put me in the ground.

[LivingWhileAliveParticipant 14]

Well, I’m already looking at being able to retire when I turn 68, however it’s linked to the rise in the average lifespan (if that trend continues) – so it’s more like 72 years old. Not all that far from 75 really.

I know my father was able to retire when he turned 60. I wonder what changed over the time of 20 years to make the retirement age raise about 12 years. It lookes like someone used all of their parents savings, their own money and their childrens money…

Just keep on breathing - you just have to put one foot in front of the other to get away .. quite simple really.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Wizard’s Pupil wrote:

Just think, all that money they gave to immigrants, could have gone to welfare for retirees.

Yup.

Do not rely on the Government to supply your retirement.
Especially you younger dudes, start saving.

No thanks. You guys who are over 50 have something to retire to, the rest of us, get to inherit the smoldering pile of ash and rubble that is our future. You think I want to spend that time in the twilight years of my life watching my health fail? No thanks. It’s already failing now. Back problems, foot problems, knee problems, nerve problems, deafness, blindness..

Once my hearing is gone, I’m applying for disability. I’ve spent the majority of my life living paycheck to paycheck. I’d rather die with dignity, than live to slave away. I’m clocking out at 50. I’ve lived a fulfilling enough life. The government would rather take from me, and make me work longer to give to the have nots who don’t belong here. F~~~ THEM! I’m not playing their game. I’m not contributing to their system.

[Anonymous 42]

joetech wrote:

I really feel for young people these days.

They’re denying old and disabled in favor of young and disabling!

sidecar wrote:

Taking the vote away from non-taxpayers would be more effective.

They took my vote away by nefarious deceitful criminal acts, so I stopped paying taxes, you know, EQUALITY!

America is broke and in debt paying the same banksters interest on money stolen from us in nefarious, deceitful criminal acts.

America is well under way to becoming a 3rd world nation. Like where I live! A condemned family campground under CEASE AND DESIST.

I trust the law and politicians (all of them) as much as I trust an angry toddler with a machine gun!

For me, America is dead, for others it’s dying, while others thrive on its death.

God Damn America! It’s the only prayer that actually fits like a hand and glove. No other prayers come close to an actual fit!

F~~~ it!

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

sidecar wrote:

Taking the vote away from non-taxpayers would be more effective.

They took my vote away by nefarious deceitful criminal acts, so I stopped paying taxes, you know, EQUALITY!

America is broke and in debt paying the same banksters interest on money stolen from us in nefarious, deceitful criminal acts.

America is well under way to becoming a 3rd world nation. Like where I live! A condemned family campground under CEASE AND DESIST.

I trust the law and politicians (all of them) as much as I trust an angry toddler with a machine gun!

For me, America is dead, for others it’s dying, while others thrive on its death.

God Damn America! It’s the only prayer that actually fits like a hand and glove. No other prayers come close to an actual fit!

F~~~ it!

The government is some crooked ass motherf~~~ers!

LivingWhileAlive wrote:

Well, I’m already looking at being able to retire when I turn 68, however it’s linked to the rise in the average lifespan (if that trend continues) – so it’s more like 72 years old. Not all that far from 75 really.

I know my father was able to retire when he turned 60. I wonder what changed over the time of 20 years to make the retirement age raise about 12 years. It lookes like someone used all of their parents savings, their own money and their childrens money…

I can’t speak for other countries, but in America, our last two presidents couldn’t keep their hands out of the cookie jar. Not only did they spend us into oblivion (taking our social security with it), they never intended to put it back. Science has also kept people alive 15-30 years longer than they would have normally lived. Which means, more money spent from the retirement kitty. I wouldn’t mind playing the government’s game if I knew there was something at the end for me. Sadly, they can’t even dangle the carrot at the end of the maze, so why should I run it in the first place?

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

joetech wrote:

How did the human race manage to f~~~ up the 21st century so completely?

Feminism.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Puffin StuffParticipant 25019]

It has to do with a complex formula which breaks down into “people live longer, we don’t have enough money to pay past 65 so we’ll raise it to 67. What are they going to do about it?

And nothing was done. They marched with pussy hats but let our retirement slip years and years away.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

IRuleMe wrote:

F~~~ THEM! I’m not playing their game. I’m not contributing to their system.

Its the only way to win these days. What does the system want you to do? Work a lot and make money, buy a house, and buy a car(s). What do you get taxed for? You get hit for income taxes…the more you make the more you pay, and you get hit for property taxes, so the nicer your house/car(s) are, the more you pay, and depending where you live might get hit for sales taxes as well.

Its a death spiral. The more you want, the more you have to earn, the more the government bends you over.

Solution? Live cheap, retire early.

By driving a modest car compared to going and buying myself a big truck and a sports car just because I can, I probably save about 1000 dollars a year in property taxes. By living in a small condo instead of a nice house, I probably save about 5000 a year in property taxes. Between federal and state payroll taxes I think I got whacked for about 43k last year. So in other words…if I continue to live a modest lifestyle and retire 20 years before the “retirement age” I’m essentially denying the government a million dollars during that 20 year period. F~~~ yes…sign me up for that.

[BoarParticipant]

Men will work their fingers to the bone until age 75. I expect being female above the age of 55 will become a criteria for a disability retirement. After all, working into her senior years is not what society promised cupcake…

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[LurchParticipant 3882]

Anonymous wrote:

After divorce rape, I lost half of mutual funds, stocks, bonds, 401k, checking, savings, home equity (all 100% my earnings funding them…she kept her stuff) and a portion of military retirement.

And I get to pay spousal support for the next 10 years, as a thank you for my paying for her master’s degree so she can be a community college professor.

I figure I’ll have to work until at least noon on the day they put me in the ground.

Have been married once and that ended when she died.

Come to think of it… I got off easy!

Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

[Colin Combover in a ComaParticipant 5102]

Once you are past working age, you are obsolete in the eyes of society, taking away natural resources. Hence companies contributing to you’re retirement. The government wants to do away with state pension. What they are really hoping for is a long, harsh winter, kill off all the old f~~~ers.

[narwhalParticipant]

Retirement really started falling apart at the same time family did. Families used to be responsible for taking care of the elder members of their family. We looked out for each other. It was never the responsibility of the government.

So we were told to be independent, causes us to lose relationship with parents and family and no longer feeling obligated to care for parents. We were told to have kids when we older, meaning we have young kids who need us at the time our parents start to need us.

Ok. Then do it.

[It’sallbsParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

It was never the responsibility of the government.

People pay for their state pension through NI it is our money.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

It has to do with a complex formula which breaks down into “people live longer, we don’t have enough money to pay past 65 so we’ll raise it to 67.

That’s the excuse, not the reality.

The reality is that government just can’t help themselves when there’s a large sum of money just sitting there collecting interest against future liabilities. They just have to dip their filthy little paws into that cookie jar to buy welfare votes, and then they cry “moar revenue” when it’s time to pay out from the now empty piggy bank.

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