I am wondering if MGTOW can go this way, and get a life on its own, and end up becoming like any other tribal matrix.  This is a concern of mine.

Please feel free to express your thoughts here, and here is my thoughts on it:

I get hesitant whenever there is talk about “This is MGTOW” because it can end up telling men who aren’t married, who have decided to they aren’t “MGTOW” because their thoughts don’t line up with a definition and norms.  In addition, there is a case of a man going his own way, not of social norms, who does things his own way and what works for him, and him being told he isn’t “MGTOW” because his thoughts don’t line up right with what is the approved definition of MGTOW that is assumed to be some collective norm agreed to.  I do see, for example, some circling of the wagons when someone is critical of a video done by a MGTOW channel on YouTube, and this person gets attacked.

Anyhow, please let me know your thoughts on this, and pardon my bungling through that video. It is probably something I should revisit some other time for clarity.

Stop focusing on “MGTOW”. We are here because other men saw THE TRUTH and we came together in a space for us to discuss these issues. You can either continue to take the red pills and go deeper into the rabbithole or you can hop off the ride and go play with some vagina. I don’t give a s~~~ what you do, but if you vomit nonsense on the internet, I am likely to call you on it.

I’m not much of a joiner, so I’m biased to begin with. At this stage of my life, I am adverse to joining hierarchies even a loose tribal structure.

I would speculate that is the norm for men being MGTOW.  With this likely the norm for each member, I am curious what the impact will be on what the future of MGTOW as a phenomenon/group identity will be.

I have been wondering, for example, how MGTOW changed from the original manifesto piece that was written over a decade ago, that apparently put the label “MGTOW” out there.

It is clear, even as a newcomer, this site is successful because of the lack of judgmental behavior – and more importantly that we continue attempting to maintain a lack of ego.

As long as the current MGTOW stays an “idea” and not an “religion”, it should be safer than the other offshoots. It is clear, even as a newcomer, this site is successful because of the lack of judgmental behavior – and more importantly that we continue attempting to maintain a lack of ego.

I was going to do a post on the nature of having the only criterion be that something be “men only” and allowing a diversity of though, that this restriction allows for more liberation in thought.

I do have a philosophical bent, so wonder about the structure of things, and wonder why they are and what make sense, which also relates to how I am doing the Youtube channel.  With this, I do wonder how the school of thought around MGTOW may change, or has changed.

I am seeing, for example, MGTOW now, has taken on a life different than the writer of the MGTOW manifesto intended.  Here is the original mainfesto:

http://no-maam.blogspot.com/2001/02/mgtow-manifesto.html

I do see DNA of current MGTOW in it, but MGTOW now is a different animal, dropping a number of things there and adding attributes (like avoiding women to a certain degree, which can mean celibacy and nothing about instilling feminism in women).  I do see the MGTOW sign in there, which I assume was in the original article.

When a silent resistance has no “Canon” agenda, it is going to be very tough for outside groups to attack it.

I also think the strength of this site is “Silent Resistance”. Certainly when I first viewed this site a few weeks back, it was just pure curiosity. But what fascinated me is what it is like an “obvious yet unseen” situation, this site looks absolutely polished and has some very intense discussion; but when one immerses himself in the actual context, it is obvious that there is no defined agenda – which is a first for me. Also, given the gravity and emotional nature of the discussions, for a group of guys everyone seems extremely “rationale” even when disagreeing. When a silent resistance has no “Canon” agenda, it is going to be very tough for outside groups to attack it.

Well said 👏

When this baby becomes organic …. I will pop a bottle of old ma’s special.

That’s when the silence becomes deadly ….. and you won’t stop it.

We are smoke ….. and you can’t kill smoke. Can’t arrest it, make laws for it, shame or trap it.

You certainly can’t marry it 😆

Once there are likes of RooshV capitalizing on what mgtow should be, I can go my own way once again. Since conforming to societal norms would mean jack s~~~ by then.

This doesn’t need an identity beyond one’s own requirement of sanity by having other like minded men sharing their stories or wisdom. Feeling like a part of stratosphere where I don’t spend time and energy seeking approval or arguing my beliefs. The magic lies in lack of boundaries or any concrete definitions.

Back when the original concept began, the climate was too PC too handle it.   The 1990’s PC movement crushed many men down into such manginas, they probably had a negative reaction to the MGTOW idea.

1970’s = “Men are oppressive!”

1980’s = “Men are part of the system that keeps us down!”

1990’s = “Men are war mongers!”

2000’s = “Men are mindless animals, use them as ATMs until you find them disposable!”

2010’s = what the f*ck else can the feminazis accuse us of? NOTHING.

After 50 years there will be a backlash.  Law of physics lads, most men here know at least the basics of that science: “What goes up must come down…”.

Can you all feel that under your feet right now?  It is the rumble you feel before the lightning is even seen.  The storm is on the horizon.