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Edit #72: I don’t know why the links hate me.
I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.
“abandoning feminism” is a change in tactic to accomplish the same goal, to serve herself.
Have you ever heard of the “good cop, bad cop” routine?
the feminism, anti-feminism routine is similar. The feminist adopts the aggressive posture leading to tension and apprehension of men. Other females sees this and decides to adopt an anti-feminist posture to lower men’s guard and elicit cooperation in getting what she wants. DO NOT BE FOOLED BY IT.
"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt
When women begin supporting default 50/50 custody of the children in divorce, with no “support” changing hands, I might start to believe their change.
Nah. I still won’t f~~~ing believe them.
Anonymous2Even feminist women despise manginas. They just like to use them to serve their agenda. Feminist women like to give feminist men praise for being good little lap dogs, but every married feminist woman I’ve come across is married to some guy who is a douchebag or dumb jock type that’s too stupid to realize that she’ll be f~~~ing him over in divorce court a few years down the road. Women HATE feminine men. They consider them weaklings, and only use these men as puppets to help serve their agenda.
As far as anti-feminist women go, they’re mostly just women who want traditionalism back, and traditionalism is just “the other feminism” as far as I’m concerned. It still expects men to be used as disposables and to risk their safety and well-being for the benefit of women. Anti-feminist women simply realize how good they had it under traditionalism, and want that deal back. They also think that going back to supporting traditionalism will help their chances of getting married so they can f~~~ him over in divorce court down the road.
Anti-feminist women are no better than feminists. Now that more men are unwilling to get married, they see their gravy train pulling away and are trying to get it back by saying they are against feminism in hope that men will come back and pony up to the table to play a rigged game where they hold all the cards. Sorry, but I’ve seen how that game goes, and telling me you’re an anti-feminist isn’t going to convince me to play.
Anti-feminist women are no better than feminists. Now that more men are unwilling to get married, they see their gravy train pulling away and are trying to get it back by saying they are against feminism in hope that men will come back and pony up to the table to play a rigged game where they hold all the cards. Sorry, but I’ve seen how that game goes, and telling me you’re an anti-feminist isn’t going to convince me to play.
I’d up vote this a thousand times if I could. Well said.
That is really the heart of the matter. Whether or not they back their words with actions. Specifically, making changes to laws which are inherently aimed at robbing men.
But here’s the thing about that: they don’t intend to change the laws themselves.
At best they are expecting men to fix this s~~~ for them. That’s what this whole anti-feminist act is all about. They are once again trying to entice men into solving their problems for them.
If they were really against the unearned benefits feminism provides them, they would be getting on with things themselves to correct the laws.
They are either too stupid or too lazy to understand that this is their problem, that they created for themselves, and only they can fix it. It’s not men’s problem to solve even if men could. Or even if men cared any more.
That’s the thing that these anti-feminist and judas goats like those f~~~s over at prager looniversity don’t get: Men walking away from women is a problem for women. It’s a problem for society. It is not a problem for men. And it’s not men’s problem to solve, either.
And we are all out of f~~~s to give.
When women begin supporting default 50/50 custody of the children in divorce, with no “support” changing hands, I might start to believe their change.
F~~~ that.
When women actually fix the laws to make 50/50 custody the law and eliminate non-custodial “child” support, then maybe I’ll take them seriously.
Until then, talk is cheap and their “support” means nothing.
The thing is that women are not Abandoning Feminism in any regard they are just abandoning the label since it is man repellent in finding a husband. Calling yourself a Feminist is the equivalent of calling yourself a c~~~ to most of us guys because Feminists tend to be c~~~s.
However these Anti Feminist women do not want to give up the privileges Feminism provides. Anti Feminist women are not giving up the right to vote or drive, they do not wanna be submissive in a relationship and not be the equal etc. All these Anti Feminist women want is s husband to be their slavehorse while they live the not so hard (with modern technology) housewife role where they do not have to work, barely have to clean and sometimes do not even have to cook but still want a man.
Only the foolish MRA’s are actually gonna let this chicks in their community as for MGTOW at least on this forum (one of the biggest on the net) we smell out tuna when they try to get on the board and rarely do any actually get past the 100 star rank (except Paulina23).
Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.
Even feminist women despise manginas. They just like to use them to serve their agenda. Feminist women like to give feminist men praise for being good little lap dogs, but every married feminist woman I’ve come across is married to some guy who is a douchebag or dumb jock type that’s too stupid to realize that she’ll be f~~~ing him over in divorce court a few years down the road. Women HATE feminine men. They consider them weaklings, and only use these men as puppets to help serve their agenda.
As far as anti-feminist women go, they’re mostly just women who want traditionalism back, and traditionalism is just “the other feminism” as far as I’m concerned. It still expects men to be used as disposables and to risk their safety and well-being for the benefit of women. Anti-feminist women simply realize how good they had it under traditionalism, and want that deal back. They also think that going back to supporting traditionalism will help their chances of getting married so they can f~~~ him over in divorce court down the road.
Anti-feminist women are no better than feminists. Now that more men are unwilling to get married, they see their gravy train pulling away and are trying to get it back by saying they are against feminism in hope that men will come back and pony up to the table to play a rigged game where they hold all the cards. Sorry, but I’ve seen how that game goes, and telling me you’re an anti-feminist isn’t going to convince me to play.
I don’t think that anti-feminist women are all traditionalists. Some of them are whores who f~~~ random guys. Some of them are porn stars. Those sorts of women usually aren’t welcome in the traditionalist crowd or the feminist crowd.
Here is something that I want to emphasize: I don’t think that women are trustworthy. I never said that.
I just like it when women are nicer than usual. I like it when I’m in public and the women around me aren’t spewing crabby feminist s~~~. I like it when women wear something cute or sexy instead of something hideous. I like it when women talk about video games without mentioning “video game sexism”.
Anti-feminist women are like poison dart frogs. I can say “They are beautiful.” without saying “Touch one. It’s safe.”
I don’t see how anti-feminist women are just as bad as feminists.
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
I don’t see how anti-feminist women are just as bad as feminists.
I’ll answer that one.
They are women. Meaning that regardless of ideology. If you get involved with one. It will all play out in the same way. She winds up screwing you over. Time and time again. Her political ideology will not bypass her hypergamous nature. Nature is hard wired. Ideologies can be adopted and tossed out on a whim.
Also agree with the many here, who clearly see that they are simply changing bait. I think that is a very sound conclusion.
They are either too stupid or too lazy to understand that this is their problem, that they created for themselves, and only they can fix it. It’s not men’s problem to solve even if men could. Or even if men cared any more.
I’m in agreement on the points you raised.
The origin of feminism, as many have mentioned across other threads. Is that it is a man made ideology. Behind it? Communism. Marxism. Could lead all the way to Fascism. All the isms, are man made creations.
In this sense, they did not create this problem. Feminism is far too effective, as a strategic deployment, to be given credit to women. It works far to well, to possibly think that women could have had the intellect to create it.
It was created by men. Men who oppose the ideologies that we live by or adhere to. In an effort to collapse and weaken our way of life. Which thus far, feminism has succeeded quite well.
I agree, that one possible response to feminism, is MGTOW. To just say f~~~ it to the lot of them. Toss them overboard and be rid of them. I believe you are alluding to this approach.
I am MGTOW. I am living this approach. And thanks to MGTOW, there are now intelligent options in how to handle and interact with women. Pump and dump, being perhaps the safest route compared to relationships, co-habitation and worst of all, marriage.
My point, is that everything in existence can be leveraged. Everything. And stupid and lazy women, are no exception to this rule.
Their greed and hypergamy can be leveraged. I am not sure exactly how, as I have not thought it through that far. But I think that this Trump victory is proof that women can be very powerful allies. Without women’s vote for Trump. The world would not be celebrating with our American Brothers. Instead, under Hitlary, likely the Nato threat that Putin has been warning of, would strike off, and we’d all be in war.
I’m not suggested trusting women. I am in no way whatsoever recommending that MGTOW ally with women. I am merely pointing out, that they can be used to our advantage.
That they can be harnessed and used to serve our needs. Our ends.
They are a resource, just like any other.
“He who takes an eel by the tail, or a woman at her word, soon finds he holds nothing.”
With women abandoning Feminism is them facing the fact that it was a failure from the start, and they hope we come back. F~~~ THAT S~~~. We ain’t coming back. We MGTOW are living the good life. Money in the bank, free time, Don’t have some nagging women tell us what to do. One think we know is that they wont drop there s~~~ty slutty attitudes the mint they leave feminism. The worse thing could happen is that there attitudes get much worse as they find out all the s~~~ they been bottle fed was all but nothing lies and hitting the wall in there 30s, with no husband, kids.
Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."
Anti-Feminists are just virtue-signaling to men that they are better than the crazy-ass Tumblr feminists in the hopes of snagging themselves loads of attention and other goodies.
Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.
I don’t give a f~~~ if a woman is anti-feminist or if she puts her hand in the fire to denounce feminism. Being “anti-feminist” is not remotely the same as “pro-male”. Doesn’t mean she’s in your corner.
Just listen to this peace of work and count the red flags.
“The enemy of your enemy” is not your friend.A feminist wears her hatred and disrespect on her sleeve out in the open.
This one lathers it in cream cheese icing before feeding it to you.Fist in a velvet glove.
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Left a reply there:
Good luck undoing the past 50 years.
There are plenty of men out there in that sea of effeminate candy-asses. Problem is, you don’t want to look. If you do, you’re unwilling to do the work. Time for you to do the chasing.
Don’t bother. We don’t want you.
Invest in cats and ice cream.
Have a pleasant evening.
Fuck this planet.When women begin supporting default 50/50 custody of the children in divorce, with no “support” changing hands, I might start to believe their change.
Nah. I still won’t f~~~ing believe them.
I’ll believe it NOT when “it seems that they support default 50/50 custody” BUT WHEN
Default 50/50 custody will be LAW
AND
Men will have the legal choice of giving up to rights and duties (aka support) towards the newborn during the first 20 or 24 weeks, AKA “FINANCIAL ABORTION”.Even feminist women despise manginas. They just like to use them to serve their agenda. Feminist women like to give feminist men praise for being good little lap dogs, but every married feminist woman I’ve come across is married to some guy who is a douchebag or dumb jock type that’s too stupid to realize that she’ll be f~~~ing him over in divorce court a few years down the road. Women HATE feminine men. They consider them weaklings, and only use these men as puppets to help serve their agenda.
As far as anti-feminist women go, they’re mostly just women who want traditionalism back, and traditionalism is just “the other feminism” as far as I’m concerned. It still expects men to be used as disposables and to risk their safety and well-being for the benefit of women. Anti-feminist women simply realize how good they had it under traditionalism, and want that deal back. They also think that going back to supporting traditionalism will help their chances of getting married so they can f~~~ him over in divorce court down the road.
Anti-feminist women are no better than feminists. Now that more men are unwilling to get married, they see their gravy train pulling away and are trying to get it back by saying they are against feminism in hope that men will come back and pony up to the table to play a rigged game where they hold all the cards. Sorry, but I’ve seen how that game goes, and telling me you’re an anti-feminist isn’t going to convince me to play.
This.
Who cares what “anti-feminist” women say?
Deep down they know that they have a legal system to get them their way if they change their minds.
That’s why they want to go back to “traditionalism”, but it’s just a buzzword: if real traditionalism would be enforced, then most “anti-feminist” women wouldn’t be interested anymore!SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Their greed and hypergamy can be leveraged. I am not sure exactly how, as I have not thought it through that far. But I think that this Trump victory is proof that women can be very powerful allies. Without women’s vote for Trump. The world would not be celebrating with our American Brothers. Instead, under Hitlary, likely the Nato threat that Putin has been warning of, would strike off, and we’d all be in war.
I’m not suggested trusting women. I am in no way whatsoever recommending that MGTOW ally with women. I am merely pointing out, that they can be used to our advantage.
That they can be harnessed and used to serve our needs. Our ends.
They are a resource, just like any other.
PRACTICAL EXAMPLE:
The male pill.
Tell women that this is going to relief the burden on women.
They’re short-sighted, they’ll be glad and they’ll support it.
Even many feminists.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
The Trump election was a result of the majority of voters — and the majority of female voters. They actually did something this time around. Something to actively START to put an end to this feminist S~~~E.
Perhaps he’s the right prick at the right time, like Winston Churchill?
Obama was Chamberlain, and Horrilary? Women weren’t part of the patriarchy, they didn’t wear the pants.Perhaps people, both men and women have seen the same wool they tried to pull over our eyes, the media talking about some utopia economy and living standards that truthfully do not exist. We see our own economy sliding while the Washington elites keep partying and thriving.
The “real people” (like us) that have been scurrying around like the peasants all around dear leader’s palace in North Korea.
We never wanted solar panels loaded with toxic heavy metals to cover our farmlands. We never wanted giant windmills with their hypnotic strobe covering our ridges and mountains.
We never wanted electric cars that burst into flames.
We never wanted brand new Chinese Steel Bridges manufactured by Chinese Steel Workers.
We never wanted 50,000,000 million people eating on borrowed time.
We never wanted to see all our factories gone.
We never wanted 100,000,000 million people out of the workforce.
We never wanted them to take all our guns.
We never wanted everything we say on the telephone to be reviewed by big gov #1.
We never wanted a carousel of medical doctors so many that it gave some people vertigo, while others were promised 2,000 cheaper and are paying 4,000 more.
We never wanted to fire all the coal miners. We wanted clean coal burning gasification systems to remove the mercury and return the CO2 back into the earth.
We never wanted the bankers to back up the treasury with 10,000 armored cars to unload it in the biggest robbery in HISTORY!
We never wanted the race war to reignite with civilians and cops being shot in cold blood every night.
We never wanted an apology tour between games of golf, flying here, crying there, and always stopping over for a game of golf.
We never wanted Airforce 1 to log so many miles like flying back the White House for trinkets that someone forgot.
We never wanted women in the men’s room and men in the woman’s room.
WE never wanted to be RAPED, PLUNDERED, AND ROBED!
I will never understand why the voters elected him in the first place, then they blew my mind by going a second round of more slaps in the face.
They’re all millionaires now, I lost in the stock market thanks to Ameritrade, then to add insult to injury they devoured my remaining scraps for inactivity fees, I was totally unaware of and apprised until the pigs were done. Then to add further insult to injury the bankers bailed out these very same brokers in a bailout with the money they stole from the treasury, what a f~~~ing party! too bad I wasn’t invited and only got the bill.
Then there’s the Social Security of which I get NONE.
Then there my real estate that’s been on the market at half price for 2+ years without one single bite. Think I can get a mortgage on collateral like before? NO no Mr. MG-Tower and Mr. Gem10 your 8,000+ credit ratings between the two of you is not enough! But thanks anyway, we’ll use your combined 16,000 credit score to loan your government more cash in your excellent and untarnished credit names! Look at all the good we’ve done! Here’s your over assessed tax burden and thanks for chipping in!
I/we Mr and Mr F~~~ED, plan on BURNING EVERYTHING in a video that backtracks and chronologically recites all the pitfalls we these two people that have lived a life of being ROUSTED by well armed TYRANTS always firing TYRANNIES GUN!
F~~~ them! They can eat the GOD DAMNED ASHES!
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this blurb is a great example of how i have felt about the situation overall, although i had a different experience, i have been horrified, over and over again, reading story after story, even before i found MGTOW, about the heinous crimes that have been perpetrated on us Americans and the citizens of other nations, by this same group of elitist left-wing criminals.
it is amazing what they get away with. not for long. Divine justice is real. it is terrifying what can happen to these people once they are standing before what the prophet Daniel called the Attiq haYomim, the Ancient of Days.
all non-theists, athiests, anti-Christian MGTOWs that want to attack me on this post or future ones (just because i don’t answer doesn’t mean i don’t see what you write and dismiss your venom, and forgive you to boot), YOU WILL ALSO STAND BEFORE THE ANCIENT OF DAYS.
once these criminals stand before the One who sits on the throne, who’s hair is white as wool and who’s face shines like the sun in full strength, who’s legs and feet are as burnished bronze, and who’s voice is like the sound of rushing waters, they will be asked questions that they cannot answer, they will be unable to properly explain why they did what they shouldn’t have and why they did not do what they should have.
after that, any of them that are not covered with the blood of Jesus Christ and who are not in His covenant of grace by faith in Jesus Christ, will face frightening feelings and experiences that you and i cannot fathom or imagine.
there will be justice done for the crimes against humanity that have gone on, year after year, decade after decade, century after century, against a struggling and nearly defenseless citizenry in every nation since the beginning of the human race, these leaders will be brought to account and they will certainly pay for what they have done.
it is no different now. God, the God of Israel, Father of our Lord Yeshua haMashiach, the Son of God, watches from His holy habitation, in heaven, and takes in, SIMULTANEOUSLY, and with complete understanding and omniscience, every act and every occurance of every event, both interpersonal among human beings, and inpersonal on this planet and in outer space, and tracks and knows, from the end and the beginning, past present and future, the full ramifications and consequences of every thought, word and deed.
He sees and hears and understands all, and in His righteousness He will judge in favor of the poor and the oppressed. for it is written:
=======For the oppression of the poor, for the sighing of the needy, now will I arise, saith the LORD; I will set him in safety from him that puffeth at him. -Psalm 12:5 KJV
22 Rob not the poor, because he is poor: neither oppress the afflicted in the gate: 23 For the Lord will plead their cause, and spoil the soul of those that spoiled them. -Proverbs 22:22-23 KJV
4 He shall judge the poor of the people, he shall save the children of the needy, and shall break in pieces the oppressor. -Psalm 72:4 KJV
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10 Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed;
2 To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!
3 And what will ye do in the day of visitation, and in the desolation which shall come from far? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?
4 Without me they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
-Isaiah 10:1-4 KJV
Alright, you guys are right about AWALT. I still don’t plan to ever get married.
Here’s the thing: If I was having a pleasant conversation with an anti-feminist woman, I wouldn’t mention AWALT. If I did that, she might change her tune.
Perhaps anti-feminist women are faking it, but I still want to hear them insult feminism and feminists. If it’s fake, I don’t care. I don’t want them to stop.
You know what they say about watching sausages being made.
Fake t~~~ are fake too … and I don’t care about that either. I wouldn’t marry a woman with fake t~~~, but I wouldn’t tell her to f~~~ off either.I on the other hand want feminism to continue.
Otherwise how will men wake up? Men had suffer for thousands of years in Tradcon life, it is time to wake up and enjoy ourselves.
If women go into chameleon mode, men may go to sleep and forgot about the nature of women. Just like the Roman empire and Babylon. We need feminism, so men will not forgot. Or at least a few generation longer.Tradcon is more dangerous then feminism in their slavery of men. Feminism is so obvious in their misandry that only mangina dumb enough will marry them.
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
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