Why do you guys even interact with MRA's to the point of personal insult??

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Anonymous wrote:

KM, remember when you made a donation to that guy who’s wife left him with their disabled child?

Yeah we were p~~~ed when it was announced that he was considering taking her back when she saw $ 500 K he raised because she was such a c~~~. Could have predicted it myself. Live and learn.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

FreeGhost wrote:

My point is that if we acted more classy, the more our message would resonante with the mainstream media. Profanity and sexist comments derived towards women (as absolutely agreeable to me as they are via personal experience and observation) are a detriment towards our cause of creating a society which values both sexes equally.. Taking the classy route as Karen Straughen (sp?) is the best approach towards implementing true gender equality. The amount of leftists viewers that disagreed with Cenk’s pompous/illinformed viewpoint was astonishing to me. The down votes for “The young turks: was so unbelievable to me, many former leftists claiming “unsubscribed”.

I think most of us are tired of trying to compromise. It is useless. We can just live outlives as we see fit and other people’s opinions are irrelevant. Besides, people need the manosphere to vent. Its not just about informing others. Maybe I’ve misunderstood you, but the idea of places like this censoring opinions so that mgtow is sexier is absurd.

[The Shadow ManParticipant 29]

That which we resist only gains more power.

We would do well to disociate from petty comparisons and arguments.
By all means be involved, but refrain from taking it personally.
Speak the truth with wisdom.
State your message.
Listen openly to others opinions and points of view (because knowledge is power), and then know when it is time to disengage and walk away.
Rest assured that it is our ability to remain true and strong in our collective beliefs and values that will give us strength of character and the power to withstand any confrontation or emasculation.
As soon as we get involved in tit-for-tat petty and personal arguments, we become weak and lose our power and identity.
Drink from the warriors well, dine at the table of knowledge, eat the fruits of wisdom, and climb to the top of the mountain to see the horizon with clear eyes and a steady gaze…JW

Great post thanks Casper.

lust awakens a desire to possess, Her shining jewel is a fake treasure chest, The truth is that thing hidden under her dress invariably ends in murders and deaths........JW.

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

Keymaster wrote:

I’ll let you guys in on a little secret. A few months before (shortly before) MGTOW.com opened in April 2014 I (we) personally wrote to AVFM to offer help with their website when they were having a hard time with it. Hows that for a classy move??? They posted something about website problems and we answered it.
They didn’t get back to me/us on that.
Oh well.
Their loss.
We even did the same for Roosh when he posted an ad for help. He wrote back and said he was covered. But the ad still ran for at least 10 more months. It may even still be up. We are not the problem. THEY are. They just wanna HATE.
Love it.
That’s WHY we did it. To prove they don’t even WANT to get along.

Yep. They are content believing that we are a bunch of peter pans with Cheeto covered microdicks that hide in the manosphere because we fear women. They don’t have time for us. They just want to boast about how great their new pre-gaming ritual has allowed them to further connect with their ancestoral alpha male spirit or usher out emperor shelam’s new mandate on whatever they’re bitching about now.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Keysmaster, as much as I respect your opinion, you have a ton of nut sack grabbers that will ride you till your grave. Taking a classy route will allow your group to be represented in the mainstream (CNN, Fox, MSNBC). Sadly, I feel you are on a power trip with your likes and followers, remember the cause brother. The classier men act, the greater their chances of being represented in the mainstream media. Don’t be a pc detriment to societies growth. Men need to be retaliatory in an intellectual mannerism.

Enough with the cult mentality. MGTOW has already been represented upon multiple news sources in Japan, they are facing a profound demographic crisis. Discontinue your hate speech (as greatly I feel it is worthy), and you genuinely increase your chances of such movement being listened to for what it is

[Anonymous 18]

FreeGhost wrote:

Keysmaster, as much as I respect your opinion, you have a ton of nut sack grabbers that will ride you till your grave. Taking a classy route will allow your group to be represented in the mainstream (CNN, Fox, MSNBC). Sadly, I feel you are on a power trip with your likes and followers, remember the cause brother. The classier men act, the greater their chances of being represented in the mainstream media. Don’t be a pc detriment to societies growth. Men need to be retaliatory in an intellectual mannerism.
Enough with the cult mentality. MGTOW has already been represented upon multiple news sources in Japan, they are facing a profound demographic crisis. Discontinue your hate speech (as greatly I feel it is worthy), and you genuinely increase your chances of such movement being listened to for what it is

Tuna?

What’s your obsession with mainstream media?

CNN, FOX? Who in this generation watches that crap?

“Alfred come heeeyyee. They are taaaaaaaalkin bout your favorite show meeeeig tow again. Bring my dentures too.

Oh he left his hearing aid on couch again’

And even if we were diligent little puppets to garner attention from mainstream media, this is how it will be read by a pretty woman on Fox:

“Our sources have reported that this group sponsors hatred and crimes against the vulnerable sex and Congress has passed bill B28 to outlaw online forums exclusive to men only. Senator Turd Phagut who is running for re-election states that in his female-friendly state (making up for 80% of swinger voters), congregation of 10 or more heterosexual male group will be crime punishable by inforced marriage to a woman seeking a man but unable to find one. The children need a father figure. “

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

AFM is sinking and so is matt forney, rooshv. All these dudes web traffic went down considerably. This isn’t a baseless claim because you can get traffic stats. Recently Mr Elam threw a ex staff under the bus. These dudes all struggling financially and will probably disappear within 10 to 15 years tops.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Reading “Bitch”, “C~~~”, “Whore”, “Slut”, etc on this site ALL DAY, doesn’t help our cause of raising national attention. The classier we act and present ourselves, the more likely we will be represented in one mannerism or the other in the mainstream media..

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

Keysmaster, as much as I respect your opinion, you have a ton of nut sack grabbers that will ride you till your grave. Taking a classy route will allow your group to be represented in the mainstream (CNN, Fox, MSNBC).

We ARE classy. Revert to previous.

FreeGhost wrote:

Sadly, I feel you are on a power trip with your likes and followers

Too many examples of me saying “I’m just the janitor here”… and “this site doesn’t belong to me – it belongs to all of YOU” for that to have any merit. If I were interested in likes and followers I would be working on a website for WOMEN telling them all kinds of bulls~~~ they want to hear. We’re not here for the “likes” man. Don’t know where you got that crazy idea from.

FreeGhost wrote:

The classier men act, the greater their chances of being represented in the mainstream media.

Already have the mainstream media knocking.

Only days ago we received an invitation to take part in a “television opportunity:” from a small / independent Los Angeles Entertainment company . They wrote with “great interest about our organization”. In 3 emails we had to tell them it’s not an “organization”. They kept using the word “organization”. Did you watch a single MGTOW video honey? Did you read the about page? Did you read the Manosphere page? They want to gather us up and take part in their docu-drama about s~~~ they know nothing about.

We asked them to tell us more about it, and what first started to sound like a 20 second appearance on the evening news, turned out to be this totally inconvenient list of s~~~ they wanted us to do. Skype chats. An “audition for casting”. Just RIDICULOUS set of “we wants” but NO MENTION OF WHAT THEY WERE OFFERING – like we’re not busy doing other stuff!!. Yeah it was a woman too. It didn’t even occur to her to send dates. We had to ask 3 times. “What are we talking about here?? We’re BUSY. She actually expected us — without any schedule or plans or dates – to just agree to all this crap!!

…. until we just ended up saying “The best representative of MenGoingTheirOwnWay…….. is an empty chair”.

Done. Film an empty chair.
No scheduled Skype chats or casting auditions required.

They will get it eventually.
Probably when they film a show asking “where are all the men???”. (*rolls eyes*)

“Classy” and “Mainstream media” are a c~~~radicktion in terms.

Enough with the cult mentality

Already shattered that one to bits too. Don’t forget, SHELAM and ISMAY (for example) are signed up here. If MGTOW were a cult we would be telling them what to do, what to eat, where to sleep, what to think and what to drink. MGTOW is nothing of the sort. And neither are we.

FreeGhost wrote:

Discontinue your hate speech

FIND me a single piece of “hate speech” here.
Here let me help you…… with a mainstream media example

/video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/

IS that what you meant by “hate speech”????

Or do you think it was “hate speech” when another poster said “why I hate women and why you should too”……….. and I responded with “You don’t hate women. Don’t be silly. Do you go around setting their hair on fire? Do you key every car you know belongs to a woman? Do you spit on women as you pass them? Do you knock their cappuccinos out of their hands at Starbucks? Of course you don’t. And neither does anyone else here. That would be “hate” – or an intense dislike. I treat women better than they deserve.”.

I don’t know how you misunderstood me so poorly.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 18]

FreeGhost wrote:

Reading “Bitch”, “C~~~”, “Whore”, “Slut”, etc on this site ALL DAY, doesn’t help our cause of raising national attention. The classier we act and present ourselves, the more likely we will be represented in one mannerism or the other in the mainstream media..

1000s of men who went to great trouble to wear suits and tie to courtroom to seek fair custody rights to their children and pleaded don’t have a voice in mainstream media.

Victims of false rape allegations don’t have a voice in mainstream media.

Men committing murders or suicides from manipulative gfs or wives don’t get much attention in mainstream media. But some BITCH who leaves her 1 year old to party is all over the news and gets to publish f~~~ing book. The baby died because this woman had to be a WHORE that particular night getting drunk and dancing on a table.

Men victimized by domestic abuse don’t get to send their wives off to jail for a few nights.

What mainstream media does support is: violence towards men, paternity fraud, attention on SLUTS looking for free paternity tests for the 5th time on daytime show, feminists making up stats/lies (. 75 cents for a dollar), woman like the mattress girl getting invited by a congresswoman.

Mainstream media isn’t what you think it is my friend. It doesn’t work to inform public. It works to program people to think, behave and react in certain ways.

If anything mgtow would provide a trigger word for these drones to violently attack men who are otherwise just happy minding their own business.

Besides all this mainstream business, what part of going YOUR own way is so difficult to grasp?

You can gel your hair and look dashing for your interview at CNN man but don’t expect the entire mgtow community to be behind you. Most will not appreciate any man becoming the face of mgtow.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

I used to be an MRA. I was top poster on mens news daily, the spearhead and for a while on a voice for men and mens reddit. My handle was singledad.

My son grew up and issues of custody and divorce became less important to me. So now I go my own way, with the knowledge I’ve gained as a MRA and the knowledge that I have contributed to the discussion on men’s rights. I used to donate to all of them. I was voted top ten poster at the spearhead.

All were named and blamed by the Southern Poverty Law Center at the time I was posting a lot.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2012/misogyny-sites

I’m very proud to say.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

Reading “Bitch”, “C~~~”, “Whore”, “Slut”, etc on this site ALL DAY, doesn’t help our cause of raising national attention.

You just lied.

There are 125,000 posts on this forum. The following stats were looked up on 09.27:

• Use of “women” when speaking about women: 28550 posts

• Use of “bitch” when speaking about women: 5864 posts
(not a problem because WOMEN use that word to describe themselves proudly)

• Use of “slut” when speaking about women: 1290
(including use of the term “slutwalk” used by feminsts)

• Use of “wench” when speaking about women: 57 posts (including requotes)

75% of the time (or 300% more often) MGTOW use the term “women” when speaking about —– “women”.
That’s the whopping majority. And someone writes an article highlighting the use of the word “wench”??????

And you pretend we over use the words “slut” and :”c~~~”?? We don’t use them enough!!!! We’re being POLITE.

••••••••

Now, what if the grapes REALLY ARE sour.

What if a “woman” is REALLY a “whore”?
Here is one telling you that she is.

What if a “woman” is REALLY a “bitch”?
Here is one telling you that she is.

What if a “woman” is REALLY a “slut” and holds a sign above her head while marching nearly naked down the street after inking herself with the word?

Do you mind if we talk about it?

/forums/topic/fresh-article-on-vice-by-mack-lamoureux/

FreeGhost wrote:

remember the cause brother.

Oh don’t worry. I remember it very well.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Mgtow already has public awareness. Huffpost articles, Washington post articles, CNN articles, Fox news, articles etc all are addressing the issue of young men choosing not to get married, The classier we can shine ourselves among the mainstream media, the better. Sometimes when I hear an ex husband call his exwife a “c~~~” I feel it is spoken with due justice, yet potentially weakening our cause. If we can deter ourselves from our hostile language (as just as it may be), we can cast ourselves as a more legitimate organization/group. Just my take.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

weakening our cause

Ahhhhh now we’re making progress

MGTOW isn’t a “cause”. It’s the EFFECT.

THEY are the “cause”. And it’s about f~~~ing time they are forced to accept it.

Every time a man sees this….. +1 MGTOW.
/video/spermjacking/

Any more mainstream media anyone? We’ll be serving it up all week. It’s the daily special.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Source?

[Tiga KParticipant 1693]

FreeGhost wrote:

Reading “Bitch”, “C~~~”, “Whore”, “Slut”, etc on this site ALL DAY, doesn’t help our cause of raising national attention. The classier we act and present ourselves, the more likely we will be represented in one mannerism or the other in the mainstream media..

Dude. You need to realize something. Mgtow isn’t some gang you join and then you abide by some rules to stay in the gang. We’re just some guys that have each turned our backs on the gynocentric society we don’t agree with and come here to help each other, laugh, complain, and what not. If you want to reach out to other guys and convert mainstream culture, cool, go for it. None of us are taking orders from key master. If you want people taking orders and policing each other, go join the MRAs. The guys on this site don’t serve some cause. We are not followers as you have accused us of being, we are going our own way.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

Source?

You’ve got to f~~~ing kidding me. I just gave you a dozen “sources” and you provided NONE.

Start back at page one of this thread and then review. Then when you have provided the same number of “sources” for your allegations, someone might take you seriously. I hand-delivered you the sources. We provide you with 2 searches (site archives and forum) to do your own homework. It’s not my problem if you’re too lazy to look it up.

I did. And then I f~~~ing spoon fed it to you. You’re welcome.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 18]

FreeGhost wrote:

addressing the issue of young men choosing not to get married,

Which is to say men don’t prefer getting married.

MGTOW is more than that.

Would the sources above publish the widely acceptable notion that men aren’t getting married because feminism sabotaged whatever salvageable traits marriage had to begin with? The legal battle is anything but. It’s a gift of lifelong alimony and in cases child support for a child that is not even of the man? Or women today are promiscuous and executive monkey branchers or borderline personality disorder going by the list of ex-bfs and failed after failed relationships?

NOW that would be interesting.

Official version : Men aren’t getting married because of unemployment, delay in getting established careers, WOMEN are unavailable (lol) because of their own careers and goals.

[FreeGhostSpectator 318]

Less of a contributor here statistically, I understand the sentiment of MGTOW rigorously.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

FreeGhost wrote:

I understand the sentiment of MGTOW rigorously.

You don’t have a clue. Not too late for you to get one though. Have a spectacular weekend. Since you’re looking for sources, you can spend it in the archives. We created them just for that purpose. Knock yourself out.

Someone could bring you sources and deliver them straight to you. You don’t even acknowledge, give thanks or respond directly to it. Do you have a vagina by any chance??? You sure behave like you do. You just type whatever BULLS~~~ comes into your head and when your belief system is shattered right in front of you, You still say “Source??” when it’s staring you in the face. I expect that from a woman.

You may now respond DIRECTLY to the responses provided for you before you change the topic or start another thread. That’s how a thread works. Anytime you’re ready. “Gosh, I never considered that before. Thank you for providing actual numbers and direct references….. I realize now that I was wrong..” is a perfectly acceptable response. Feel free. Unless of course your ego’s so f~~~ing huge you just CANT BRING YOURSELF to say any such thing. It would be IMPOSSIBLE.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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