Why do women ask for a man's advice, and then do the opposite?

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

Why do women ask for a man’s advice, and then do the opposite?

It doesn’t matter if you have been with a woman for 10 weeks or 10 years, it seems to be one of their bizarre flaws.

W: (7:00 am) “We are meeting for dinner tonight. What time should we tell her we will be there 5:15?”

M: “That is too tight of a schedule to make it there on time.”

W: “Well she says the buffet is best if you get there before 5:30 on Wednesdays.”

M: “Why should we rush for her?  She ALWAYS is late, or flat out cancels.  Tell her 6-ish.”

W: “Well, OK. I but I would rather get there sooner. So we will say 5:30-ish.”

M: “Uh-huh. Go ahead and rush, so you can feel foolish when you get there and she cancels.”

W: :annoyed as f*ck:

M: :completely ignores her and walks out of room:

W: (4:00pm) “She cancelled…”

M: “SHOCKER!!! Not!”

W: “Well I don’t really feel like going out tonight anyhow.” :starts changing to completely unrelated subject in true AWALT form:

M:  >:/

Almost all women have this flaw, I have seen it my whole life – all of them regardless of age.  The problem I have is when I know the REAL scenario, and give her the LOGICAL and CORRECT answer, and she is consciously aware that the friend cancels 50% of the time – yet she chooses to ignore it as if the friend hasn’t already been late or blew her off countless times.

As always, the core issues are forms of Validation.  She really wants to be validated that she is right.  When she is wrong she is still validated to some degree, by having someone to intelligent to consult.  In the end it also may come down to the simple validation of just having the pathetic need to “hear herself talk” in front of an audience, even though she is really just having a conversation with herself.  I don’t think there are many women out there who understands how frustrating this is to men. “Validate MEEEEEEEEE!”

It is a no-win situation.  Even when I try to rise above, and just remain neutral, it infuriates them in a different way.  My new tactic is a revised version of past failed ones.

W: “So I am thinking 5:15…”

M: “Perfect!”

W: “But you didn’t even listen to the rest!”

M: “5:15 is good.”

W: “But I wanted your input…”.

M: “Why, so you can ignore it like always?”

W: ………………….

If she gets the message great, I win.  If she gets p~~~ed, then I see her true colors – still a win.

Experiences?

Sovereignty above all else.

[QcummerParticipant 652]

because it reflects how they operate. They say one thing, but do the opposite. The do one thing, but say they did not.

Whatever comes out their mouth…it’s usually defensive techniques to fool you.

Example: “I do NOT want a sugar daddy”

bulls~~~, why wouldn’t she?

This is a real world example. I was sent one extensive text message to a woman that included a bunch of information…paragraphs, tons of my thoughts on her and my speculations…just throwing things out there. And out of all that I said, her 3 statement reply included the need to ‘defend’ herself by replying specifically to one silly statement I made jokingly about her needing a sugar daddy. I was just shootin’ the s~~~, and gets all direct and straight forward about her NOT wanting something I was f~~~ing joking about.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

My ex-wife was like that.  Ask for my opinion then do the opposite.

I could only speculate on her true thought processes.  If I actually had an intimate and truthful understanding of feminine logic, then I would be either insanely rich or richly insane.

1.  As you said.  She wanted validation that she is correct.

2.  I am or she thinks (more likely) I am an IDIOT and therefore anything I say is the wrong answer so doing the opposite is the best thing to do.

3.  She is an idiot.  She knows it.  Can’t stand it.  Feels inadequate, so yin yangs everything I say.

I stopped giving a s~~~ as to how women think nine years ago.  What they need to fully understand is the word ‘No’.

 

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[experiencedParticipant]

A friend of mine told me that in the middle of a heated argument with a woman he likes to stop, look her in the eye and console her saying,

“It’s OK… I forgive you.”

 

great fun

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[RoyDalParticipant]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

Why do women ask for a man’s advice, and then do the opposite?

I’ve never figured that one out. It’s been happening all my life. I suppose I might as well ask, “why do moths chase after flames?”

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

Or .. yes it was sex last night …… but now … this morning …. it’s rape.

[MantelarParticipant 77]

women are idiots.  that’s the basic moral of the story.  i’ve put up with this sort of thing on and off for years.  i’ve long since given up, and answer with brutal honesty.  and then, when they don’t take the advice, i mercilessly point out their cognitive dissonance.  it hasn’t helped any of my relationships at all.  but it does make me smile.  women don’t really get it…if a man gives advice, that’s because he probably knows what he’s doing and is trying to keep you from making a mistake.  otherwise, he keeps his f~~~ing mouth shut because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.  think of the idiot child, who just absolutely has to test the theory of the hot stove on his/her own.  women never really grow out of that.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

As always, the core issues are forms of Validation.  She really wants to be validated that she is right.  When she is wrong she is still validated to some degree, by having someone to intelligent to consult.  In the end it also may come down to the simple validation of just having the pathetic need to “hear herself talk” in front of an audience, even though she is really just having a conversation with herself.  I don’t think there are many women out there who understands how frustrating this is to men. “Validate MEEEEEEEEE!”

This reason has my vote. It is a common tactic with narcissists. It’s called narcissistic supply.

 

[ToadParticipant 271]

“Women don’t want to hear what you think. Women want to hear what they think – in a deeper voice.” Bill Cosby…
Nuff said…

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

This is simple/

They operate out of default preconception that you are wrong and they are right. If they don’t know what’s right – they take what’s wrong and try the opposite. The whole idea is the hope to make a fool out of you and then rub your face in it: “I told you so”.

This is by the way a pretty strong strategy. And instead of discounting it as “stupid” – try it for yourself and see the miracles you will achieve. Listen to a woman and do the opposite

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

Why do women ask for a man’s advice, and then do the opposite?

Because they don’t think men’s opinions are good enough for them. So they choose the other options to spite men.

[– Deleted on Request –Spectator 936]

They merely need to have independent confirmation of what they’ve already decided to do.

It’s like some of the interviews I attended several years ago.  I often left them wondering just why I was even there in the first place.  I quickly found out the answer when the employers either announced who got the job or eventually got around to telling me to drop dead (often after I had to call them first).

Often, they had to interview people like me to comply with law or internal regulations.  Also, I suspected that they already knew who they wanted but simply needed to have someone like me to show that the chosen candidate was indeed the right choice.

 

[JasonParticipant 282]

I’ve experienced this so many times… In particular in regards to one of my female relatives; my father and I have given her advice (sometimes unsolicited, but far more commonly solicited) and she has almost always ended up doing something different than what we advised. The result? She’s refused to follow our advice literally hundreds of times and she’s ended up screwing herself over 99% of the time. And still she refuses to follow our advice. I don’t even try anymore…

There lies serenity in Chaos. Seek ye the eye of the hurricane.

[Lazarus LongParticipant 365]

Just to see if they really just think all men are idiots has anyone run an experiment where they give them the s~~~ty advice as though they really believed it? Do they follow it because that was what they were already going to do and then blame you for it or did they do the opposite because men are always wrong?

Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

– Deleted on Request – wrote:

They merely need to have independent confirmation of what they’ve already decided to do.

This 100%.  They have already made up their mind, they are just looking for validation that they have made the right choice.  Even if there choice is a bad choice and they agree with you it is a bad choice they will go off and do what they wanted anyway then bitch about it later.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[DeepInThoughtParticipant 2710]

The most annoying trait I have found in regards to this post and my experiences is this: when you are with your girl for many months or even years, they are suppose to love and trust you, your advice and even expertise in areas you are a master in yet, they will instead listen to a female friend, a family member or worse some other new guy/a stranger and totally disregard you like you are a f~~~ing idiot. Man, that use to burn me up massively especially with other guys and his advice was wrong, flirtatious and if I stood my ground and said this isn’t appropriate I was the insecure jealous one.  Never ever again! I have actually had women ask me similar things against their partners and I always said “ask your man, he’ll know.” Every time. Bro code!

[flightspaceSpectator 207]

because they’re f~~~ing women. don’t try to understand it. why would they expect you to understand something even they dont understand?

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

flightspace wrote:

because they’re f~~~ing women. don’t try to understand it. why would they expect you to understand something even they dont understand?

This website was made exactly because we do study and understand how they operate now. It’s not a secret anymore.

One of the reasons  I find this resource so good. )

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[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

F~~~. S~~~. C~~~. Edited my 200+ word message and it vanished. I will make a short one.

Knights Templar Rising wrote:

M: “Why, so you can ignore it like always?” W: ………………….

Because I lost my whole f~~~ing post again, In short: this is genius Thor 5/5 response, KnightsTemplarRising.

her Loki maneuver gets 0/5, instantly destroyed.

Only way to win for you is not to play this mind game, and chop it of like a tree at its root.

 

Because no matter what you say or advise (right or wrong) it can be used as a Fuel for her to blame you later or boost her ego, at ANY point in your life. Giving advice is a guaranteed fuel for her, no matter the outcome of situation. It’s awesome for her because its a Win either way.

Examples, after the situation resolves her way:

She is right (and you are right) ”I told you so”

She is right (and you are wrong) ”I told you so, and was right, and you doubted me”

She is wrong (and you are right) “You could’ve explained it better, it’s your fault. You are mean.”

She is wrong (and you are wrong) “You didn’t know better.”

 

If she is a real c~~~, she is now weaponized by the situation and rocking . And it can happen daily, until she gets a tanker of s~~~ on you. 

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

“Let a woman in your life. And patience hasn’t got a chance.
She will beg for your advice,
Your reply will be concise,
Then she”ll listen very nicely, and go out and do precisely what she wants!”

– My Fair Lady | Best Picture 1964

There is a reason it won best picture.
Asking why do women do it….. is like asking “why does a kangaroo hop?”

/video/let-a-woman-in-your-life/

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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