Why did Bill Clinton's infidelity matter?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Assuming that one of these numerous reports about Trump and Stormy does break, and it can be shown that Trump did have an affair with a porn star, then I am left to wonder about Bill Clinton. There is lying under oath, which is one thing. There is also maybe, while in the White House, oral was performed. However, beyond this, why does it matter? Aren’t there more important matters than what a man does sexually, in determining whether he should be in the White House, or is it only relevant as a weapon used to score political points against someone you dislike? Like Anthony Weiner. Is the only issue the sexual side?

See this as an example of one of Stormy articles:
https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/06/politics/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-lawsuit/index.html

Your thoughts?

Latest word is Cohen borrowed money against his house to pay Stormy to not leak out information. Looks like a loser cause to me, if true. Why do this?

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 54]

My first thought is,if your name is Anothony Weiner, dont get caught texting pics of your weiner! Hahahh

Its just ammo for politacal warfare.

I dont care what parts get stuck in witch hole.

As long as they’re not trying to stick them in mine.

Id take a blow job from that chubby
Lewinski chick.

What the hell!! Haha

[UntamedParticipant]

I seriously doubt that President Trump was sexually involved with a porn star. I’d need explicit photographs to believe it and the proof those pictures weren’t doctored.

What most likely happened is that bitch Stormy – what kind of a f~~~ed up name is that anyway? – got close to Mr.Trump through one of their mutual friends, tried to get money by whatever means these bitches are known for and Mr.Trump humored her for as long as it was beneficial to his empire and dropped her like the hoe she is.
Now she’s mad because he’s president and she’s a nobody-C~~~ who got ass-reamed just to pay the bills.

If she had anything on him you could bet your ass that she would already have released whatever proof there is to support her claim.

What proof do you have?
Blah blah blah blah-blah *sobs* blah blah blah *sobs*…

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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[BigDParticipant 3024]

At the time he was Commander in Chief of the military many, like myself were in the military. All military personnel are under what is call the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

So, at the time, and I don’t know if it’s still a thing, but in the military under UCMJ if you committed adultery you received 7 years for each act and 7 years for sodomy (blow job/anal). So, every time Monica stuck Bill’s dick in her mouth that was 14 years. If during the act she pulled his c~~~ out of her mouth and put it back in it’s another 14 years. This is a compounding act.

For service members CID was quick to get a weak minded woman to confess to multiple instances of pulling out and putting it back in to get multiple years put on someone’s jail time.

As Commander in Chief he was supposed to be under UCMJ. Apparently we are a nation of men and not a nation of laws. That was the big deal.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Politics is full of people that are trying to maintain a certain “image” for the public eye.

Bill Clinton enjoys women and blow jobs. Who Cares ?

Maybe, Trump had a thing for heavily breasted porn stars at some point, Who Cares ?

Now, lets throw in the mix that these Men are Powerful, Wealthy, Influential, Famous etc., and Women by nature are hypergamous, and what do you think is going to happen when one of these men winks at pretty much ANY Women ??

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[Anonymous 14]

Don’t really care either way about any sex scandal. Women have been dropping to their knees and spreading their legs for men in positions of power throughout all of history, nothing is going to change that.

Hillary however staying with Bill after it was PROVEN is another thing, it shows me that the marriage was/is about power to her, not love, respect, whatever… Pathetic woman on many levels.

[UntamedParticipant]

Awakened wrote:

Politics is full of people that are trying to maintain a certain “image” for the public eye.

Bill Clinton enjoys women and blow jobs. Who Cares ?

Maybe, Trump had a thing for heavily breasted porn stars at some point, Who Cares ?

Now, lets throw in the mix that these Men are Powerful, Wealthy, Influential, Famous etc., and Women by nature are hypergamous, and what do you think is going to happen when one of these men winks at pretty much ANY Women ??

You make a good point, Awakened.
If Trump f~~~ed that hoe I hope he got his money’s worth because NO Lady is worth more than a couple hundred dollars for an entire night.

If you get a bitch in bed after a few nice well-placed sentences you’re the Mac.
If you get a bitch in bed after paying her a McMeal you rock.
If you get a bitch in bed after a $50 restaurant meal you’ve been had.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 43]

Why did Bill Clinton’s infidelity matter, because character counts. If the Douche nozzle in Chief can break a promise to his wife, ie the wedding vows, then he has no loyalty to his country either. When you are the Penetrator of the United States, character matters.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22531]

IGMOW, let us get something straight.

It was not the infidelity of the Clintons that was the problem. It was everything else. The fraud scandals, the campaign scandals, the selling of nuclear secrets to foreign powers, overseeing the ratification of NATFA (though Bush 41 laid the groundwork for NATFA), the rumors of blackmail, placing their followers in key places in the various government agencies, rumors of bribing the media, and all the mysterious deaths left in their wake.

And the above is just the 1990’s, during the Clinton’s White House years. That is not even getting into later scandals, such as the Clinton Foundation which was only suppose to fund the Clinton presidential library, Uranium One, Russian Collusion, the Libyan rebellions, the U.S. embassy attack in Libya, the taking over of the DNC, the rigging of the DNC 2018 primary and possible rigging of parts of the November 2018 election.

The American people are poorer in many ways because of the eight years the Clintons were in the White House and the years Hillary was secretary of state.

President Trump for all his faults is public about who he is. He does not need a script. He can tell it as he sees it.

The Clintons pretend to be everything they are not. With them, everything is scripted beforehand.

A lot of people whom are either to young, or was not born during the Clinton White House years do not understand. The only information they can find involves Bill playing a saxophone, Hillary going to Bosnia, a cigar and a stained blue dress. But, there is so much corruption linked to these two individuals that it would take days to list all the known and rumored actions these two have taken against other people, from those the personally knew, to the American people, to humanity as a whole.

To this end, it cannot be understated how humanity dodged a bullet by President Trump defeating Hillary in the November 2018 U.S. Presidential election.

[Anonymous 42]

Bury the Clintons, all three of them! I’m so f~~~ing tired of their cackle! I called it back in the 90s’ and time has proven me right! Sleazeb~~~~ from day 1!

[RhinoParticipant 3477]

The reason why it was a scandal was because he did it on the job in the Whitehouse. Just like in any other job if you are found screwing around in your office you are going to get fired. Had he done it outside at night not off the clock it wouldn’t of been as much of a problem (although I think a President is really never really off the clock).

Clinton was impeached because he lied about the entire incident had he told the truth he would have still been in the office.

As for Trump even if he had sex with the Stormy witch it doesn’t matter if he did it because he was not the President at the time and there is no law against adultery. Yes it is morally wrong but not illegal and if we used Trump as a measuring stick for all men we would probably see close to a billion in jail along with him if it was illegal.

[Anonymous 7]

Rhino wrote:

Clinton was impeached because he lied about the entire incident had he told the truth he would have still been in the office.

He was impeached but not removed from office.
If he had told the truth nobody outside of D.C. would have cared.

He did lose his ability to practice Law.

[Anonymous 1]

BigD wrote:

As Commander in Chief he was supposed to be under UCMJ. Apparently we are a nation of men and not a nation of laws. That was the big deal.

Many people have the misunderstanding that the President is under UCMJ. While it is true that he is the Commander in Chief of the military, he is a civilian, and not in the military, has no rank, and is not subject to UCMJ. Neither is the SecDef, SecNavy, etc.

For those not familiar with the UCMJ, Article 134 is a catch-all restriction against actions that run counter to good order and discipline. Those actions could be any of MANY things, some of which are specifically discussed, including bad checks, bigamy, and several others, including adultery:

(1) That the accused wrongfully had sexual intercourse with a certain person;
(2) That, at the time, the accused or the other person was married to someone else; and
(3) That, under the circumstances, the conduct of the accused was to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces or was of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

[Usually folks say that if you’re not married, you can’t commit adultery. Note in (2) above, that for purposes of the UCMJ, if you OR THE OTHER PERSON is married, it’s adultery (because it makes the military look bad).

Rhino wrote:

there is no law against adultery. Yes it is morally wrong but not illegal and if we used Trump as a measuring stick for all men we would probably see close to a billion in jail along with him if it was illegal.

Adultery is illegal in many states, including NY and all the SE US states from MD to MS. I think it is rarely enforced, and although it is a felony is some places, it is usually deemed a misdemeanor.

As we XY of the species know, however, is that adultery (or even the claim of adultery) makes court sponsored divorce rape even easier and more thorough for the XX.

Bill Clinton was impeached (acquitted) for perjury and obstruction of justice…for LYING about the affair/sex to big wheels, not technically for HAVING the affair/sex.

[joetechParticipant]

When Bill Clinton ran for office he and his wife bought TV time immediately following the Superbowl. I’ll never forget it. Brilliant marketing! Here was this guy I’d never heard of before with his wife telling everyone that he was going to run for president. Then they went on to discuss Jennifer Flowers and why it was just an irrelevant scandal that the opposition was going to use to smear him. His wife was standing by him and all that was in the past. Then, Bill Clinton got elected and proceeded to make cigars and dress stains “Presidential”. The Dems should remember this before trying to pull a sex scandal on anyone. So he f~~~ed a porn star? Good for him! How many c~~~s does that make for her? Who cares? Unless it puts money in my pocket or jobs on the market…I don’t give a f~~~, and I think the MSM is about to find out how many of the rest of us don’t either.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Anonymous wrote:

My first thought is,if your name is Anothony Weiner, dont get caught texting pics of your weiner! Hahahh

I agree with you here on this. Depending on your name, you can’t do things. It will just snowball.

Untamed wrote:

What most likely happened is that bitch Stormy – what kind of a f~~~ed up name is that anyway? – got close to Mr.Trump through one of their mutual friends, tried to get money by whatever means these bitches are known for and Mr.Trump humored her for as long as it was beneficial to his empire and dropped her like the hoe she is.
Now she’s mad because he’s president and she’s a nobody-C~~~ who got ass-reamed just to pay the bills.

Stormy is her porn name. She has an actual normal name, just went with Stormy for when she did porn stuff.

Anonymous wrote:

Why did Bill Clinton’s infidelity matter, because character counts. If the Douche nozzle in Chief can break a promise to his wife, ie the wedding vows, then he has no loyalty to his country either. When you are the Penetrator of the United States, character matters.

Are you saying that it matters when you are president, or also when you aren’t? Trump has been divorced twice and remarried 3 times. This area with women, isn’t a strong point of his. My question is one of: Why does it matter anyhow? Trump said in an interview, years before he ran, that his track record with women, would be a problem if he ran.

Faust For Science wrote:

IGMOW, let us get something straight.

It was not the infidelity of the Clintons that was the problem. It was everything else. The fraud scandals, the campaign scandals, the selling of nuclear secrets to foreign powers, overseeing the ratification of NATFA (though Bush 41 laid the groundwork for NATFA), the rumors of blackmail, placing their followers in key places in the various government agencies, rumors of bribing the media, and all the mysterious deaths left in their wake.

Actually the infidelity issue is what ended up with him being grilled over, and was a driving force for him facing Impeachment. Are you saying these other issues relate to Trump? There is the whole Stormy Daniels thing, and Bill Clinton faced infidelity issues, so I am asking why this matters. Anything else is subject to another thread.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

Why it matters is because of the double standard of the Democratic party. It doesn’t matter what they do, but it matters what a Republican does. For example, when Senator Packwood (R) was kicked out of the Senate for getting drunk and groping a few women, the man in charge of the Ethics Committee was Ted Kennedy. Ted F~~~ing Kennedy. The guy who got drunk, drove his car off of bridge, and then swam to safety leaving his female passenger to drown. Mary Jo Kapechni.

Dem’s have never cared about morality in who they have put in office, as long as they get to use from their power. Hell, they probably prefer someone who can be manipulated. They’re just p~~~ed that the Republicans have finally caught on to the game and don’t care about Trump’s past.

The R’s are finally playing by the same rules, and the D’s don’t like it.

The other reason why Clinton’s infidelity mattered is because it reinforced the notion of men who were above reproach. Kind of like Harvey Weinstein. The people that didn’t want him impeached CREATED the double standard of certain men that could get away with anything, while the rest of us played by completely different rules. Now those same women, once they benefited from that double standard by spreading their legs for cash and prized are screaming METOO.

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