Why Bother Grasping for the Wind

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Good God…

I keep trying to type up this story to get your guys input, but I already know what the answer is…So here’s the short and skinny, and you can just lay it out for me (just like I *know* it already is). This sounds like such a teenage story, but my point is WHAT interaction with a female isn’t? Even though I identify with MGTOW, I will always love the physical beauty of a young woman, yet they make things literally IMPOSSIBLE!!!

1. Dude (me) meets physically charming girl/new younger/foreign neighbor
2. Girl comes over, seems cool as f~~~; and flirty as f~~~; we have a lot of fun together
3. Dude sees girl around after good time – “hey, want to hang out?” Girl acts like she has plans; she doesn’t because dude is her neighbor and sees chick alone EVERY night
4. Girl won’t even look dude in the eyes again when he says hello…common COURTESY you f~~~ing c~~~. And we’re NEIGHBORS – bitch!

I still like pussy guys; but I do NOT want or am NOT willing to exhaust my efforts to get it. I suppose the short and skinny is me venting/ranting that even when you clearly have a FUN time with a girl in a situation that required zero effort on either end, they STILL make it so impossibly difficult to further that experience. It’s entirely insufferable.

Why the F~~~ would any creature do this? And why the F~~~ do they think we’re going to put up with it?

I know I will not.

/End Rant

Resident cynic.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I’m guessing her name is Sue, and she probably met another guy she’s interested in.

Don’t let it get you down, bro. That situation happened to me and I’m sure a lot guys here can tell you a similar story. Just give your attention to your hobbies and date another woman. I can almost guarantee that she’ll flirt with you if she sees you having a good time without her. Trust me, 20 years from now you’ll be laughing about this and her post-wall face.

Meanwhile, let’s clap our hands to this:

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[HitmanParticipant]

yep,
welcome back brother…
ignore her and she’ll be interested.
reverse logic for us..
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[Anonymous 3]

Funny, had the same thing happen to me about six months or so ago. Was in a small group, after church gathering on a Sunday, good discussion, and we’re just all chatting and the like. Cute-ish woman asks me a few questions about van dwelling last summer. As we were leaving, I said “Come join me for coffee and we can chat some more.”

Head up to the local McD’s (underrated coffee!) and she even buys. Shoot the breeze for a couple of hours, leaves with a smile on her face, nothing appearing like she’s mad or anything of the sort.

Starting the next Sunday, not a word. Not a hello, not a “Hey, you’re really an ass”, nothing. Can’t even look in my direction. Yeah, chicks are the same in and out of Sunday….

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Good God…

I keep trying to type up this story to get your guys input, but I already know what the answer is…So here’s the short and skinny, and you can just lay it out for me (just like I *know* it already is). This sounds like such a teenage story, but my point is WHAT interaction with a female isn’t? Even though I identify with MGTOW, I will always love the physical beauty of a young woman, yet they make things literally IMPOSSIBLE!!!

1. Dude (me) meets physically charming girl/new younger/foreign neighbor
2. Girl comes over, seems cool as f~~~; and flirty as f~~~; we have a lot of fun together
3. Dude sees girl around after good time – “hey, want to hang out?” Girl acts like she has plans; she doesn’t because dude is her neighbor and sees chick alone EVERY night
4. Girl won’t even look dude in the eyes again when he says hello…common COURTESY you f~~~ing c~~~. And we’re NEIGHBORS – bitch!

I still like pussy guys; but I do NOT want or am NOT willing to exhaust my efforts to get it. I suppose the short and skinny is me venting/ranting that even when you clearly have a FUN time with a girl in a situation that required zero effort on either end, they STILL make it so impossibly difficult to further that experience. It’s entirely insufferable.

Why the F~~~ would any creature do this? And why the F~~~ do they think we’re going to put up with it?

I know I will not.

/End Rant

[FermatParticipant 3478]

Interesting story. I am a strange guy. I have only taken a woman out to lunch ONCE in all my 24 years of living. It was Chinese. Food was good, but the conversation was boring. I don’t see taking women out for food (or really anything) as a valuable life skill and have vowed to never do that again. I prefer my own company when I eat anyway.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[The Batman 2020Participant 2112]

What’s up RedPillBible! One of my favorite mgtow

Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

[narwhalParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Why the F~~~ would any creature do this? And why the F~~~ do they think we’re going to put up with it?

I bet we could come with a dozen different reasons why women do 180s like this. It doesn’t really matter why, it just matters how you’re going to handle it. Here are the options.

1 – Don’t deal with women at all, therefore no chance to do a 180 on you.
2 – Put them on a pedestal, demonstrate how you care and what a great guy you are. Follow her around.
3 – Call a foul. Tell her she’s horrible for doing this and try and ruin her reputation.
4 – Expect this going in. Don’t be surprised when she disappears. Enjoy the ride, but walk away when it’s over with no regrets. Be thankful that she’s giving you the opportunity to avoid the drama that’s coming.

#2 is absolutely the wrong choice, and #3 can be dangerous. #1 is the safest, but I prefer #4.

Ok. Then do it.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

I’m going to take another perspective on this one. It could be as simple as she doesn’t feel the same about you. Maybe after hanging out with you she realized that she didn’t have a romantic interest in you but she could tell that you had one in her. Instead of being honest and telling you, she’s just avoiding a difficult conversation.

I’m assuming you have zero interest in being her emotional tampon, and why would you want to be friends with someone who can’t be honest with you? So move on. You have to remember that if she is hot, then she has a ton of guys throwing themselves at her. She probably either found a Chad or a guy that she can use more successfully and efficiently than you. Or both….

Don’t forget. Hanging out and having fun is enough for a guy. It’s rarely enough for a girl. They expect cash and prizes as well.

Order the good wine

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@ancientwisdom: I understand what you’re saying. Let me share a story, so you know it’s not just you. I was auditing one of my client’s businesses back in June. One of the girls that worked there was overtly flirty with me, dressed hotter and hotter every day, and insisted I work at her desk with her. I finally ask her out “after” the audit is complete. She says a very happy “Yes” amongst other things like “You’re going to be in trouble.” We had great chemistry. Maybe two weeks later, we are driving around and she tells me that she thought about it and she is so busy and doesn’t think she really has time for a relationship. I am FB friends with her, and it truly does look like all she does is work, spend time with her nephew and three dogs and work out. So, although I think she was being honest with me, it just goes to show you how crazily they can change their minds. It really frustrated me the flakiness of it all. I mean, if I felt she just wasn’t interested that’s one thing, but she was absolutely googly about me for weeks. That experience sucked and was very disappointing.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

I have a saying, “You never know with a HO, and they are all Ho’s”. So f~~~ it, go out and rent yourself some guaranteed fun, and stop wasting your time, energy, and effort trying to figure out what some HO has going on in her fragile egg shell mind. Life is way to short, and women are way to illogical !!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Awakened wrote:

I have a saying, “You never know with a HO, and they are all Ho’s”. So f~~~ it, go out and rent yourself some guaranteed fun, and stop wasting your time, energy, and effort trying to figure out what some HO has going on in her fragile egg shell mind. Life is way to short, and women are way to illogical !!

Normally I would agree with you. Im not sure where you live, but where I live Ive got a better shot at negotiating the sale of the Brooklyn Bridge (which I dont own) in Mandarin (which I dont speak) than I do ligning up an appointment with a hooker on a Friday or Saturday night.

Its virtually impossible.

It would be easier to simply go out and get laid.

AND- theyre tricks.

Case in point: last time I tried to schedule one the girl kept responding to my texts, saying “in a bit…at a bar”. This is in a downtown area and Im texting her around midnight. Finally at around two am-ish she says shes ready to come over.

Now, I was deep into the drink but not too deep to know; had cash on hand but Im not the choir boy (at least not THAT night). She shows up. Has a drink and a smoke. I lay the money out on the table top. Shes muddling through her purse, then says – ” do you have a rubber?”

“No.”

“Neither do I. I cant BELIEVE you dont have a rubber!”

“YOURE the prostitute, YOU should have a rubber!”

Long story short, shes asking me where the closest place to buy a rubber is, but shes clearly being a trick and trying to grab my money and leave.

I looked her in the eye and said – “Youre NOT going to come over to my place, have a drink and a smoke, then walk out with my cash. Its not going to happen”.

She agreed then told me she was going to go buy rubbers and come back…She never did.

Total tricks.

Oh- and my long winded details about the timing of her text responses have a material point: she was CLEARLY on the prowl, waiting for a “drunk john” she could play her tricks on and simply walk in and walk out with the cash.

Its been said that “at least prostitutes are honest”; that should be qualified with ***IF*** you can find an honest prostitute.

Tricks.

Same games…Same lies…Same s~~~.

Resident cynic.

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

Just wanted to say welcome back Ancientwisdom, I havnt seen you in a while and thought you weren’t coming back. As for your post, yeah girls are flaky, just ignore them and then they want your attention, I won’t preach here, you know the deal with the way most of these c~~~s are.

There’s another member with your avatar but a different name, I wasn’t sure if it was you before, but now I know for sure cause your back. His points are lower, you’ve been gone a while but yours is still fairly high.

I remember you cause you are a passionet believer in the Lord.

Hey bro,

Thanks so much for the warm welcome back. That means a lot to me. Yes, I am a passionate believer in God; although I must admit I have done MANY things contrary to my belief, and I feel like a bad representative of what it means to be a follower of God.

In the end, I think most men on this site are intelligent enough to realize that even a man who beleives in God, and His ways, is still a sinner like All of mankind. God forgives us all, because we have ALL fallen short of his standard; but through Christs perfect sacrifice, we can and will be redeemed.

That is one aspect of this site I relate to my spiritual beleifs: the world we live in is corrupt and not functioning the way it was intended to be. Every man on this site, whether atheist or whatnot ALL recognize this fact.

God intended things diferently. If all of us men didnt realize this, then why are we here? There exists a God given natural law and order which is manifest in our rationale and spirit. Its where nations derive their social contract theories, and dostinguish betweeb right and wrong.

On this forum we all intuitively “know” something is a-miss in the natural order of things between men and women and so much more.

How do we all “know” this?

Its a God given intuition of morality and rationality.

There is NO other answer.

Resident cynic.

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