Why Are Soo Many Men On A Marriage Strike? (Dr. Helen Smith Compilation)

[Anonymous 11]

For me, it fails a basic risk versus reward analysis which was even glaringly obvious at my blue pill max.

For starters, knowing that he can be divorced raped with a stallion’s c~~~ due to her simple ‘boredom’ is no incentive to get married.

[MACHOParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

For me, it fails a basic risk versus reward analysis which was even glaringly obvious at my blue pill max.
For starters, knowing that he can be divorced raped with a stallion’s c~~~ due to her simple ‘boredom’ is no incentive to get married

Women were never at the top of my priorities, now.. since my realization that the feminists have rigged everything in their favor.. Women are no longer on my list of priorities in Life! I’m assuming the same applies to most Men Going Their Own Way!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[IRuleMeParticipant]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

She’s harmless. She’s in it for the money but does make an effort to explain men’s problems to manginas and feminists on national TV.

She also is a psychologist that counsels a lot of men on men’s issues.

It’s just her job. I think she articulates men’s issues well.

Right, but women who defend men tend to get a bad rap here, which is kind of unfortunate, because just telling the truth about men’s issues put them at great personal risk by their own sex. Whether it’s their reputation other women seek to damage, or their wallet, which other women will fk with by getting speaking engagements cancelled, or their life in the form of death threats. Agenda or not, they’re still risking a lot just to come to the defense of men when it would be easier not to “rock the boat” and stick with their fellow hive. We blast women from a state of anonymity. These people are on full display in the public eye with a lot to lose.

[bagsofsandParticipant 1391]

IRuleMe wrote:

Puffin Stuff wrote:

She’s harmless. She’s in it for the money but does make an effort to explain men’s problems to manginas and feminists on national TV.

She also is a psychologist that counsels a lot of men on men’s issues.

It’s just her job. I think she articulates men’s issues well.

Right, but women who defend men tend to get a bad rap here, which is kind of unfortunate, because just telling the truth about men’s issues put them at great personal risk by their own sex. Whether it’s their reputation other women seek to damage, or their wallet, which other women will fk with by getting speaking engagements cancelled, or their life in the form of death threats. Agenda or not, they’re still risking a lot just to come to the defense of men when it would be easier not to “rock the boat” and stick with their fellow hive. We blast women from a state of anonymity. These people are on full display in the public eye with a lot to lose.

I watched the whole clip linked, and I agree with her viewpoints…. obviously. What a gem she is.

What annoyed me were the interviewers/hosts around 3min10sec mark trying to dilute her points by proclaming you just have to “man up”, “you don’t become a man until you assume responsibility”…….

ARRGG! Shut the f~~~ up, you mangina cream puff! Way to kill the discussion totally, and keep up the feministic bulls~~~! And then the bimbo starts her yayayayaya drivel afterwards.

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

Wow a chick on OUR side? The f~~~? <clapping>

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Very well put taxguy – I read her book and found it slightly informative. It would be a greater help to the uninitiated, but the raw truth on this site surpasses even the knowledge she spouts.

Regardless, she might be able to identify the issues, but with all due respect to my brother’s here a NAWALT that does not make.

Notice, how she stated in her youth she was a feminist but now she’s essentially changed. Could the impending Wall have anything to do with it? Having two diametrically opposed viewpoints in ones life make me question motivation.

Could she be the real deal?, absolutely. But like you stated I have no guarantee she or society will not change again. I’ve left the plantation never to return.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[surfdude12Participant 4103]

I read her book years before went MGTOW. I think it planted the seed. My ex found the book one day – nothing better than seeing woman’s face finding this book in her mans collection 😀

[Maximus AureliusParticipant 351]

Truth is Truth, No mater who speaks it, Man, woman or a totem pole…
She has a point that if men made this point or spoke on the topic , they would be shunned or quieted.

Even though many of us have made our minds up and made our choices. I don’t think any of us want things to stay the same or keep getting worse for men.

Anytime light is brought to a topic or social issue that benefits Men, whether its me or Men in the future, that is a something I can appreciate.

If the message brings awareness to others and saves even one man from being systematically raped, if not a change to the system, that is something I can pass forward and encourage.
A lot of people won’t listen to me, no matter how great my topic is, but….They might listen to her.

Meditating on the Wisdom & Truths of Man, Isn't just a Philosophy, but a Calling......Be willing to be Called a Man!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

phoenixgod1995 wrote:

she at least does her best to explain WHY men are leaving the dating and marriage pool.

But only gives a f~~~ because it’s biting women on the ass.

She wouldn’t give a f~~~ what men do or what happens to men if women still had full access to men’s wallets.

AWALT.

[narwhalParticipant]

I think she’s sincere, and I’m glad she’s out there doing something. She is right in that it is much easier for her to go say these things than it would be for a guy. And I am somewhat glad she is championing this cause, however futile it may be.

I do think she is misreading the situation a bit in the sense that she wants men to speak up for themselves. She is correct in that it is dangerous for us to do so, but she seems to imply that we either start speaking up or continue to suffer consequences. We have another option, which is to simply walk away.

Ok. Then do it.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22510]

Perhaps she just sees a different unappreciated market demographic for her books and such. IE men. Dunno. She also makes a name for herself as a contrarian compared to almost everyone else out there who are furiously promoting and defending the gynocentric societal plantation system.

Always remember, AWALT. The trigger conditions and stressors/events that bring it about will vary for the individual, but, AWALT.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[TaxGuyParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

I think she’s sincere, and I’m glad she’s out there doing something. She is right in that it is much easier for her to go say these things than it would be for a guy. And I am somewhat glad she is championing this cause, however futile it may be.

It’s not hard to answer the question about why men are on a “marriage strike”. The REAL question is what are you ready to offer to get men to put down the picket and go back to work? And how do I know you aren’t lying? And how I know you won’t change the deal again once I come back? And why the f~~~ does Charlie Brown keep thinking that Lucy won’t move the ball EVERY F~~~ING TIME he tries to kick it???? Women have officially become the “Boy That Cried Wolf”. No one believes you anymore.

Sorry Dr. I’m done trying to kick the ball. Hold it until you’re blue in the face. I already put my picket sign down. I’m over on the basketball court playing with myself.

Order the good wine

[the roadParticipant 3125]

I purchased this book. I read about 3/4 of it before I got bored and stopped. I already knew everything that she talks about so it became boring as I realized that no matter what she suggests as a solution doesn’t matter to me.

I don’t care. Not going back.

#MANOUT

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

TaxGuy wrote:

Women have officially become the “Boy That Cried Wolf”. No one believes you anymore.

[narwhalParticipant]

TaxGuy wrote:

It’s not hard to answer the question about why men are on a “marriage strike”. The REAL question is what are you ready to offer to get men to put down the picket and go back to work? And how do I know you aren’t lying? And how I know you won’t change the deal again once I come back? And why the f~~~ does Charlie Brown keep thinking that Lucy won’t move the ball EVERY F~~~ING TIME he tries to kick it???? Women have officially become the “Boy That Cried Wolf”. No one believes you anymore.

Agreed. It’s not a strike. I’m just waiting to see if a better deal eventually comes around. I seriously doubt it, and I doubt I’d be interested if it did. Even if the laws change and I meet a woman that can be trusted, it’s not as I’m missing anything but not getting married.

But as I said, her attempts are futile. We are never going back, and women are never going to come up with a marriage/cohabitation plan that works.

TaxGuy wrote:

I’m over on the basketball court playing with myself.

ummm, don’t you mean playing BY yourself?

Ok. Then do it.

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Assuming we are not hurtling towards a total societal collapse, I think we are, but let’s presume this is not the case.

Marriage will be view much like slavery in the next 200 years. When you take the emotional and religious dogma out of it, their is no purpose to marriage. Especially if you are male. Marriage is not required to have children, purchase assets or prevent someone from leaving.

We are a few decades away from the artificial womb. With DNA based technology in its infancy men and women will be able to manipulate the genome independently to reproduce. Technology and a move towards telecommuting have eliminated a lot of the time requirements involved in raising children.

In short it’s a multifaceted issue that was triggered by, but goes further than feminism. The last 60ish years has been a unique intersection of social, political, legal and technology change.

After slavery in the western world was mostly abolished, mechanization took over. Feminism has abolished marriage and the family. The void will be filed by technology, genetics, and the cult of the single.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

TaxGuy wrote:

What’s to say we sign a prenup today and tomorrow they are ruled null and void?

It happened to me. Don’t expect a pre-nup to save you.

Women change their minds all the time. Sometimes you can tell when a woman is lying to you. Other times, you are blindsided. It’s far easier to avoid them.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

bagsofsand wrote:

I was just thinking the other day: why are there so many kids growing up without fathers, are they really all assholes or is something else happening here

Sad thing is most of the dad’s I know who don’t have primary custody of their kids end up paying a s~~~load in child support and hate how little they get to see their kids. They aren’t assholes…most of them are actually great guys, they just get f~~~ed by the system.

TaxGuy wrote:

It’s not hard to answer the question about why men are on a “marriage strike”. The REAL question is what are you ready to offer to get men to put down the picket and go back to work? And how do I know you aren’t lying? And how I know you won’t change the deal again once I come back? And why the f~~~ does Charlie Brown keep thinking that Lucy won’t move the ball EVERY F~~~ING TIME he tries to kick it???? Women have officially become the “Boy That Cried Wolf”. No one believes you anymore.

Sorry Dr. I’m done trying to kick the ball. Hold it until you’re blue in the face. I already put my picket sign down. I’m over on the basketball court playing with myself.

I don’t even worry about what they’re going to do to make it better anymore. Its too late for that. I’m in my early 30s now…most the women my age have already hit the wall and are all f~~~ed up in so many ways. Even if things changed rapidly in the next few years and I found a chick who wasn’t already a train wreck, dated for a couple years, then had a kid…I don’t want a baby when I’m pushing 40 at that point. I’d have taken the bait at 20 and the kids would have been grown up and out in my early 40s but that was prime time to ride the c~~~ carousel for cupcakes.

The idea of having minors I’m responsible for until I’m up near 60 just doesn’t interest me, but it seems the idea of having a kid over 30 for women is super appealing because they are taken care of until 50+ and they hit you with a big D at any point, the cash out at 40 or 50 is bigger than a cash out at 30 provided they trap some sucker with his finances in order.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

Beer wrote:

Sad thing is most of the dad’s I know who don’t have primary custody of their kids end up paying a s~~~load in child support and hate how little they get to see their kids. They aren’t assholes…most of them are actually great guys, they just get f~~~ed by the system.

This. I know many a case like this. It’s sad.

And for the other kids growing up without fathers, either the mother f~~~ed chad, the typical asshole, drug dealer, convict, thug, etc and he (predictably) walked OR they’re bats~~~ BPD crazy, and the guy couldn’t take it and cut her completely out of her life.

The average man is loyal to his family, to a fault. The average woman has no loyalties except to herself. Your world can burn down around you, and she will not care, as long as she gets what she wants.

This is an example of female loyalty.

http://nypost.com/2017/08/14/mom-threatens-to-hang-baby-because-husband-wouldnt-pick-up-the-phone/

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[phoenixgod1995Participant 3352]

Check out this article here

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/08/society-is-creating-new-crop-alpha-women-who-are-unable-to-love.html

Marriage and Divorce for a man is like getting a cactus shoved up your ass. It’s painful with all the spines that go in and it is painful getting all the spines out, meanwhile Wifey gets most of the money, your home, your kids, and practically everything you own.

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