Why Alex Jones is Crazy

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Hi everyone. I’m making this thread because I’ve noticed that Alex Jones has become popular in the manosphere lately.

Yeah, I get it. Jones has a lot of good things to say. He’s an anti-war paleocon who recognizes neoconservatism as illegitimate. He has also said some good things regarding women, whistleblowers and government surveillance.

That being said, Jones is also completely batf~~~ insane. Today I want to talk about the reasons why I dislike Alex Jones.

Everything is a conspiracy: The Bush Administration did not do 9/11. It wasn’t (((you know who))) either. The attacks were planned and carried out by Middle Eastern extremists. They had been trained by the CIA but this doesn’t mean that the CIA deliberately caused 9/11. It just means that the CIA f~~~ed up. They used Bin Laden to fight the Soviets because Reagan thought it was a good idea. It eventually came back to bite America in the ass because Reagan wasn’t that great. Reagan was an actor. Looking great was his area of expertise.

Everything is Trying to Kill You: That’s right sheeple! Absolutely everything has poison in it! Monsanto seeds are still dangerous even after they are proven safe. Vaccines supposedly cause autism … because the parents of autistic children don’t feel bad enough already. Is raising an autistic kid worse than spreading a disease and then watching your kid die? Furthermore, fluoride is safe. That’s been proven time and time again.

“Anyone who doesn’t support Israel is scum!”: AJ is a rabid zionist.

Why the f~~~ does he scream so much?: Seriously, why should I take this screaming idiot seriously?

There are plenty of anti-war paleocons who are actually pretty reasonable. Why the f~~~ do so many people look up to this out-of-control shrieking banshee?

Yeah … he has a lot of YouTube subscribers. So what? Why are they really watching his videos? Type “Alex Jones YouTube poop” into the search. Look at how many results you get! I think I just figured out why people like this guy. He’s a clown. People watch him to point and laugh.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22522]

Uintatherium wrote:

Jones is also completely batf~~~ insane.

Or, the world is more insane than you want to admit.

Uintatherium wrote:

Everything is a conspiracy:

It seems to be. Wikileaks and current actions in politics seems to point this way.

Uintatherium wrote:

Everything is Trying to Kill You:

If you knew what toxins are in the air, land, water, food, objects, you would never look at the world the same way again.

[Nathan R. JessepParticipant 1102]

Uintatherium wrote:

Everything is a conspiracy: The Bush Administration did not do 9/11. It wasn’t (((you know who))) either. The attacks were planned and carried out by Middle Eastern extremists. They had been trained by the CIA but this doesn’t mean that the CIA deliberately caused 9/11. It just means that the CIA f~~~ed up. They used Bin Laden to fight the Soviets because Reagan thought it was a good idea. It eventually came back to bite America in the ass because Reagan wasn’t that great. Reagan was an actor. Looking great was his area of expertise.

There’s a fantastic documentary on Amazon called The Terror Routes which traces the history of Islamic extremism and our role from 1979 to 2001. It’s one giant f~~~ up of conflicting agency goals, not a conspiracy.

[TuneoutParticipant]

Common sense is the #1 oxymoron.

Instead of doing their own research on a topic using different sources,most people will take at face value one persons opinion if it lines up with their own and if it’s what they want to hear.

Hence why people like Bill & Hillary can charge f~~~ing outrageous speaking fees cause they know lots of fools will pay big bucks just to listen to them bull s~~~ for a while.

I get more out of listening to drunk talk at the local Legion for free.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[Anonymous 42]

Tuneout wrote:

Instead of doing their own research on a topic using different sources,most people will take at face value one persons opinion if it lines up with their own and if it’s what they want to hear.

And that’s why I’m here! I like to see everything and examine every angle! Fkn place is JUST LIKE FIGHT CLUB! MMA OCTAGON FOR THE MIND!

[MadmanParticipant 772]

Alex Jones is a fear monger and makes loads of money while at the same time misdirecting people from the truth. He is part of the agenda.

[Anonymous 24]

I somewhat agree with your view of Jones. He won’t touch the same “Off limits” topics as mainstream media such as Israel/Palestine. So to me he is just another shill, a fear mongering, panic inducing, profiteering shill.

A lot of his stuff is decent though. I do love his stance against the “Federal” Reserve.

As far as 9/11 goes, I believe we are nearing the point that the only people left who do not believe it was an inside job are the ones who have not spent a lot of time looking into it. Every single person I know who has spent a significant amount of time investigating it doesn’t buy the official story. Tell me, how did this building fall straight down due to a very small amount of damage off on one corner? They building the bases of these things now out of toothpicks that all give way at the same time? Steel buildings do not fall like this due to a small amount of damage and a little fire.

[HitmanParticipant]

he aint crazy.
he has his own views and i also don’t agree with them all.
btw. flouride is not safe.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I love and respect AJ, but you probably already know.
People who think he is crazy – don’t know what they’re talking about and never researched anything he said. The same way people who don’t know s~~~ about red pill or MGTOW might think we are kooks and crazies. It’s completely understandable. And I know where both are coming from.
Disinformation about AJ or MGTOW is strong, both bring up strong opinions and feelings, and to accept anything that MGTOW or AJ are saying – would go against a lot of conditioning and would have to break through a ton of cognitive dissonance.
It seems like every month or so someone has to bring him up like clockwork.
I have an idea how to respond to OP in a meaningful way, but it will take a while to construct it and write it down. I might do it later

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Russky wrote:

I love and respect AJ, but you probably already know.
People who think he is crazy – don’t know what they’re talking about and never researched anything he said. The same way people who don’t know s~~~ about red pill or MGTOW might think we are kooks and crazies. It’s completely understandable. And I know where both are coming from.
Disinformation about AJ or MGTOW is strong, both bring up strong opinions and feelings, and to accept anything that MGTOW or AJ are saying – would go against a lot of conditioning and would have to break through a ton of cognitive dissonance.
It seems like every month or so someone has to bring him up like clockwork.
I have an idea how to respond to OP in a meaningful way, but it will take a while to construct it and write it down. I might do it later

Kills me. Military who have been over seas and russkies can see through bs. Perfect Russky…

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[pabsawakeParticipant 1761]

to Joe Bauers it kills me too about the whole 9/11 story, 4 planes and no black boxes even in Shaksville PA in the middle of a field. Building 7 going down but not even touched by a plane. no building comes down because of fire.

yet people still believe this even to this day.

how sad we are.

that’s all ill say cause I’m tired of it and all these stupid, stupid, ignorant people arnt worth it anymore!

"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything

[narrow road travelerParticipant 1680]

I’m not a huge fan of AJ. He definately isn’t part of the MSM so I’ll respond more to his ideas than others.

The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting. --Sun Tsu

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Full disclaimer, I am not an Alex Jones listener, I simply see videos recommended by groups when they are posted on a subject like everyone else tends to do
This is what I tend to tell people about Alex Jones and try to prove me wrong:

As odd and crazy as the dude is and the channel he is, there is a real reason why the dude is still more credible than other mainstream news outlets.

He actually goes sniffing trees for truth, unlike the mainstream media that goes around actually burying the truth with noise and distraction.

Yes obviously this means a lot of the trees are going to end up not having anything and he is going to have false positives in his reports, but he is actually somewhat functioning like at least a journalist should in digging up information. He simply lacks the restraint and doesn’t have a filter (no I don’t mean water filters) to cut the crazy s~~~ out.

I don’t dismiss infowars unless its reptilians, aliens, or other s~~~, I think since AJ got those other reporters like Joseph Watson and others the channel has actually become more watchable for average listeners. But I don’t see anyone posting ABC clips of whoever the f~~~ is the main anchor of the show now for information on subjects people are talking about this day and age such as gamergate the marriage strike, crazy feminism, the Federal reserve and monetary policy, and etc. You have to go to youtube and even infowars for news.

Because you know when it comes out in the mainstream media, it is a hackjob hit-piece. Paul Elam said he got an interview with that alcoholic bitch in ABC and it was never aired. Steven Cobert teamed up to slander an entire demographic of gamers as sexist misogynist with Anita Sarkesian. The days of the Daily Show and the Young Turks being the only one to bring truth to power are gone after Obama’s election in 2008. Time to move on and wake up

So is AJ crazy? Sure man. He probably is. Is he less credible than a mainstream media outlet? F~~~ no. He is honest and crazy, he unlike the media is NOT an unscrupulous liar.

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

I don’t like the guy and how he sensationalizes s~~~ for money. Because that’s exactly what he does. I’m not saying everything he says is a lie and/or false. He speaks a lot of truths. However, he also makes up BS to get more viewers and s~~~, and that’s why I have absolutely NO respect for him.

This is what I believe:

Pretty much everything we all know about the monetary system. It’s f~~~ed up and controlled by unelected banks where they rape everyone on the planet on a constant basis.

Flouride and a ton of other s~~~ is NOT safe. I’m sorry. It’s a toxic chemical. Just because consuming a small amount of it doesn’t INSTANTLY KILL YOU does NOT mean that it is SAFE! Pretty much anything toxic in small amounts won’t kill you, but that doesn’t mean it’s safe.

9/11 was orchestrated, the #1 reason being to take away our freedom. And they’ve done it considerably with things like the Patriot Act.

I do believe there is a global elite and a global agenda. What their endgame is, I don’t know. All we can do is guess. What I do know is everything they do is to gain more power and more for themselves. They couldn’t care less about everyone else.

I know that all elections are rigged. But not by them changing the votes. They simply have BOTH final candidates in their pockets, so it doesn’t matter who wins. They focus on stupid BULLS~~~ like gay marriage, abortions, and other s~~~ and completely skip over the important issue, like if they’re going to make things better for the corporations and the banks and f~~~ everyone else, or whether they’re going to work for everyone else. They never talk about this because they’re controlled by the global elite. No one gets to power without their blessing, and if they get to power on their own, or they betray the elite, they’re taken out (Kennedy).

ALL media is controlled by only a small handful of mega corporations, also controlled by the elite. We only get the news that THEY want us to get. They also spread misinformation throughout the internet so that “alternative” media can flourish, but it’s all BS.

The reason why everything in the world is so f~~~ed up is because the elite are changing things for their benefit, little by little. And the stuff they don’t care about basically gets abandoned. That’s why so many government “services” are beyond broken. The elite don’t care about the average person.

Have you ever noticed how laws that will actually help the people take FOREVER to even be up for consideration (let alone pass). BUT, if it’s a law that helps the elite (bank bailouts), it gets passed in a few days (or in some cases, a few hours!). That’s because ALL politicians are in the pocket the elites. The elites simply say “pass this” and it gets passed. Anything else that THEY don’t initiate simply gets “debated” forever until it’s finally killed. If it’s something that the elite DO NOT WANT, then it’s killed immediately (for example, audit the Federal Reserve and End the Fed).

I do NOT believe that the elite’s are going to “lose control” of the monetary system and we’re going to undergo and “economic collapse.” I believe that they’ve been building up to an “economic collapse” for DECADES in the hope of shorting it and basically buying the entire planet with their worthless dollars. Every house and piece of property owned by the Federal Reserve, renting them out at high prices and taxing us on every little thing. We’re already slaves to the system, but we still have too much freedom in their minds. They want us to literally toil all day and have barely enough to eat and live in a little tiny shack. They want it ALL.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Wait, I thought you were anti AJ? Got to love a man who doesn’t get funding from the government. That guys got a target on his head, and it ain’t for money. Fly above the turbulence and evaluate. After all, not long ago we thought women are capable of love for a man.

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

DarkRyu wrote:

I know that all elections are rigged. But not by them changing the votes. They simply have BOTH final candidates in their pockets, so it doesn’t matter who wins.

Just on this point, not all elections are rigged obviously, but yes even I have personally encountered attempted rigging of elections for delegates in the state primary level (elections for the people who will actually go on to cast votes as well as elections for important committees), and have acquaintances that have seen code for vote flipping and had to have meetings with representatives of Diabold to go over each line of code and prove the malicious code.

Rigged elections in America have even happened to cause a revolt such as the Battle of Athens Tennessee which two movies were made. The recent one with Josh Brolin as a lead.

So it is a bigger problem than you might realize even if the elections are rigged they way you mentioned of buying both parties. The only ones that may not be rigged are rural low population elections where there is little money and political power.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Uintatherium wrote:

Hi everyone. I’m making this thread because I’ve noticed that Alex Jones has become popular in the manosphere lately.

Thank you brother for bringing a little reason and sanity into the “brogressive” movement. Love that, p~~~ed I didn’t think of it first.

Thanks again. Everything this brother posted is absolutely true.

I have a theory that AJ is really a sophisticated disinformation campaign.

Probably one or two of the areas he touches on there is some genuine corruption going on, but by setting certain topics up so that even mentioning them makes you look like a conspiracy nut, they get some great camouflage.

The Federal reserve comes to mind. Just bringing up the fact that it is a *privately* owned and controlled entity(I’m not even sure what to call it other than a legalized counterfeiting operation) in many social contexts will immediately get you seen as a conspiracy nut ala AJ.

Hell, even *I* think what I just wrote sounds like conspiracy kookieness, even though it’s true and verifiable fact – even on the Fed’s own website.

“Commercial banks that are members of the Federal Reserve System hold stock in their District’s Reserve Bank.”

If you read that link from the FRB website they try to downplay it like it’s just this minor detail that they happen to be privately owned by their member banks. As if being able to create new money out of thin air and “loan” it to yourself at effectively less than zero interest rate (with inflation/market interest accounted for) doesn’t make all other concerns immaterial.

Now if you had a sweet ass deal like this going, I imagine you don’t want people to realize the true implications of this on their lives and how badly they’re getting f~~~ed by this. So you’d want to make any mention of this fact in public discourse seem so crazy or far fetched that it would never even come up. How would you go about doing this?

Enter: Alex Jones.

Get someone like him to talk about it, but then intermix it with aliens and chemtrails and reptilian overlords. Mission accomplished.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Guys, you need to get your facts straight. He never talked about reptilian overlords or aliens. If he did – I wouldn’t have taken him serious myself.
It’s f~~~ing slander, people pile all the fringe conspiracy theories like that in a bunch simply to discredit the legit concerns.

It’s the same as if you’d talk about MGTOW – yeah – it’s those misogynist loonies who want to bind women’s feet and mutilate them to keep them in check – in order to discredit MGTOW.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Well whatever. I actually did listen to him off an on for a while and the s~~~ he got on about was every bit as kooky as chemtrails and the like.

And here’s the chemtrail s~~~ right from his own site:

Information For Chemtrail Skeptics

My general theory still stands.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Anonymous 54]

I have not had the heart to look back at the 911 footage, but seeing it at the time I saw demolition charges going off around the base.I like building demolitions(not this one) and have seen many. I know how they work. That was clearly to me a demo job.Beyond evil.

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