Where it begins? Where it ends?

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Where this reality begins? Where it ends?

Today I saw an old woman pushing a cart of carton box and papers under the hot sun. She don’t look good and was probably scavenging recyclable material for a bit of money. So I gave her my packet of food and hurried away.

I then kept thinking, why would I do that?

She may look pitiful now, but who knows what this woman has done in her youth? What she did to her man that she had no one to save her in her old age? How much she spend that now she had no savings?

Why would I do that?

She hit the wall so there is no biological reason.

Morality? Honor?

Once you take the red pill and see the lies of society you wonder if society lie to you about other things too.

All these morality and honor things are designed to make you a disposable utility. What benefit does it brings me? I should not kill because the benefit of not needing to check over my shoulders from time to time for my killer is greater compared to the benefit of being able to kill others,

I should not steal because I will then own nothing. Whatever I leave my home to steal others belonging, the content in my house will be fair game to others.

This is how the laws and rules come into being since the cavemen days. Better mutual benefit. However these laws are followed so long that they become inviolable. You must obey without question. It become honor, morality, everyone follows so you better follow or else. More and more rules are deem sacred even though they no longer have much mutual benefit.

The smarter leaders see certain rules that can grow the tribe, at the expense of a certain gender. Protect the weak, sacrifice for women and children, it is honorable being a disposable utility.

So why the f~~~ did I do that?

How I miss the blue pill days where I can think I did a good deed and feel good about it. Why in this f~~~ up world I have to second guess myself?

Ah, maybe after I go to sleep I will wake up as the robot that don’t give a damn to my feelings.

What I see is just a reflection of the light, what I hear is just the vibration of air, what I did is just rearranging atoms and molecules. Stop reading too much into it. Reality just is.

Rant over.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 14]

If it made YOU feel good to help her out then NO WORRIES AT ALL.

If you felt robbed by it, then yes, think it over.

If you are taken care of and you give someone, male or female, who is living in the streets a little something that is noble of you and it should be done without expecting a pat on the back from anyone. You did it because you are a good person and it likely made you feel good to do it.

Life deals everyone a different hand, maybe some of us play it poorly and end up down and out, either way it is only human nature to want to help out other living creatures. This is called empathy, being MGTOW has nothing to do with it.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

I understand your feelings. I feel that doing nice things to women does more HARM than good because it feeds their sense of entitlement, so I don’t anymore. But you never really know for sure.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22516]

Hey you can help people, when YOU want to. If someone moves you, you are free to help. Man. Woman. Child.

MGTOW does not equal ASSHOLE.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[AwakenedParticipant 35201]

Gnostic wrote:

So why the f~~~ did I do that?

HUMANITY

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Anonymous wrote:

If it made YOU feel good to help her out then NO WORRIES AT ALL.

If you felt robbed by it, then yes, think it over.

If you are taken care of and you give someone, male or female, who is living in the streets a little something that is noble of you and it should be done without expecting a pat on the back from anyone. You did it because you are a good person and it likely made you feel good to do it.

Life deals everyone a different hand, maybe some of us play it poorly and end up down and out, either way it is only human nature to want to help out other living creatures. This is called empathy, being MGTOW has nothing to do with it.

I don’t know if it is human nature or empathy, I think my irritation stems from feeling manipulated by social norm.
Maybe part of it is really human nature, I think another part of it is social manipulation.

It is only human to want to get married. It is the right thing to do, to get married. Don’t be an asshole, you should get married.

I had broken the social manipulation of not getting married because it gives too little benefit and too much negatives, why should I be manipulated to help others with no benefit?

Praising or criticizing someone to do something that does not benefit him isn’t the same like manipulating someone to get married? Just the effect is on a much smaller scale?

Shouldn’t I only accept manipulation if there is at least mutual benefit?

Yes not all manipulation is bad, like the posters of the health effect of drugs is a form of manipulation. Or like the parents manipulate their child to eat veggies, to get good grades.

Why should I accept manipulation that does not benefit me? Yeah it is noble for men to give up their space in the lifeboat for women and children and drown. Why should I accept that? Morality? Humanity? Honor? These are just manipulation techniques to make me a disposable utility. To make me stupid and not think, not question.

The idealist in me feels that if everyone helps a little, the world will be a better place for the good of everyone. The realist in me just see it as a manipulation technique. The world will turn for the worst. We are interfering with natural selection and those that will be a burden to humanity will continue being a burden and create more burden. I only get to feed by ego while humanity become a little worst.

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

I understand your feelings. I feel that doing nice things to women does more HARM than good because it feeds their sense of entitlement, so I don’t anymore. But you never really know for sure.

I am conflicted myself. My feelings really wanted to believe doing nice things is good, correct, honorable, moral. My logic tells me that is just manipulation society feed me. I should just focus on people who will reciprocate, if not to me then to others. And it is usually men who knows gratitude rather then women.

Secret Agent MGTOW wrote:

Hey you can help people, when YOU want to. If someone moves you, you are free to help. Man. Woman. Child.

MGTOW does not equal ASSHOLE.

There is a strange condition of the human nature. If a stranger does not help me he is a stranger. But if someone helps me, then stop helping me he is an asshole.

Well I will probably help out if the cost to feed my ego is within my budget.
But I should not be move by the fear of being called an asshole.
I should have no shame so I am immune by shaming tactics.
I should not be move by praise nor criticism, I should only be move by actual benefit, if I should do something beneficial to feel good, it should be within my budget.
I am a free man with logical thinking, I should not be blindly moved by manipulation or feelings.

Awakened wrote:

Gnostic wrote:

So why the f~~~ did I do that?

HUMANITY

I am not sure if my humanity is actually a good thing. Yes my humanity may be good for others, but is it really good for me? All the time I see the word humanity is used is when someone sacrifice himself, being weak to manipulation.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Author]

Posts