Where has all the money gone?

[Bestieboy666Participant 2358]

I’ve been thinking lately about my life when I was a young man. Money. I’ve never been rich but I always seemed to have enough money to enjoy myself and pay the essentials. I can only relate this to the UK so I wouldn’t know how this is for you guys elsewhere.

When I was 14 in 1980, I had a part time job at the local Greyhound stadium. I use to walk them around, put them in the racing traps, then try and catch the bastards at the end of the race. Believe me getting hit in the knee at 40mph with a metal racing muzzle hurt!
I was paid £10pw for 9 hours over three evenings. I used to save some of this each week.
I finished my last exam at school at 16 on a Thursday, moved into my own studio apartment on the Friday and started full time work on the Monday. Yep as simple as that in those days. Independence at 16 and easily done. Everyone I ever knew back then had left home by 18.
When I hit 18 I upgraded to a 1 bed apartment. My take home pay was £127pw. That sounds like nothing now but it was incredible how far it went. I paid the rent, the bills, food, ran a car, went out about 5 times a week and put money by for holidays. There were no bank overdrafts or credit cards, hell I didn’t even have a bank account for several years, we’d queue up for our little brown envelope each week.
It was all down to percentages. My rent was £29pw. This was only one fifth of my take home pay. Nowadays someone of this age on a minimum wage wage job wouldn’t even be able to afford to leave home, which is why we have people still living with family well into their 20’s.
Other things were still nationalized, such as public transport, gas, electric etc. These things were very cheap in comparison to today’s privatized concerns.
I remember being happy and content with my life in those early years. Then the 1990’s hit and all of a sudden people were turning greedy and selfish, the start of the me me me era. The start of everyone being offended for stupid reasons, the start of insane political correctness, and of course feminism starting to take hold. And then everything started to become so bloody expensive. Not noticeable to start with but enough to accumulate until you realized, why is my rent know taking half my wages, why am I struggling to pay bills, why can’t I go out as much as I used to? This disposable income that I used to always have hasn’t simply vanished. Some other bastard has got it.
We, as people in general are truly getting shafted and in what has been a horrifyingly short period of time when you look back at it. What the hell will it be like in the next 35 years?
The sad thing is I look at the younger generation now and a lot of them look unhappy and stressed. I wish they could have experienced that time I had when contentedness was the norm and societal issues was a foreign concept to someone so young.

Women are so bad, if they changed the law so I kept the house, I still wouldn't marry one. I'd rather be homeless.

[BlacqueJacqueShellacqueParticipant 6890]

Inflation is the hidden tax. All fiat currencies, one hundred percent of the time, eventually return to their intrinsic value, zero.

Bestieboy666 wrote:

Then the 1990’s hit and all of a sudden people were turning greedy and selfish, the start of the me me me era.

I was just starting high school, I remember sensing this in the air.

[pabsawakeParticipant 1761]

Thank you for the post bestie, I thought I was the only one who missed the 80’s. Same s~~~ and same story here in America. I should note one other thing, women of our generation always had that true female nature but they were at least enjoyable to be around back then. They didn’t walk around so narcissistic, entitled, and fat.

"You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything

[Anonymous 11]

The 80s were the last decade of relative freedom. I remember those changes in the 90s. I remember a $100 dollar bill could buy all kinds of s~~~ in the 80s now it evaporates instantly. Yes, there were much fewer fat people then too and PC had barely hatched.

The past 5 years have been very bad in the inflation department especially food and services. The amount I spend on food has doubled over the past 5 years.

I remember in the early 70s I would go grocery shopping with my father every Saturday. He would get a grocery cart stuffed to the gills with food for $25 to $28. I see people with stuffed carts ringing up $250 to $300 totals these days buying mostly processed junk.

People were way less stressed back then too and things ran at a slower pace. The money is being printed into oblivion to benefit those who get it first, the Banksters.

[BeeParticipant 700]

In 1998, i was single and made about 30,000. I could live on half that (almost). Today with a wife and kid double that and things are tight.

[AttonParticipant]

I wish they could have experienced that time I had when contentedness was the norm and societal issues was a foreign concept to someone so young.

The simplicity of the past is something that I envy. I honestly find complexity to be rather depressing.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I think the main reason is globalization and free trade agreements. What happens if you take a high concentration solution and a low concentration solution and mix them? You end up with a solution with a concentration somewhere in the middle.

What happens if you take a rich country and a poor country and combine their economies? You end up with one big economy somewhere in the middle. We were the rich country…guess which direction we’ll be moving in.

Unless things reverse course fast and hard in the near future, people are just going to have to accept a lower standard of living. Like mentioned previously…you used to be able to go out and get any old job right after high school and afford your own little apartment, but people can’t do that today. Well look around the world…in many countries you have 3-4 generations all living in a single house together, so in the grand scheme of things that millennial not moving out on his own until 25 really isn’t all that bad.

I could easy come up with a whole list of things I think contribute, but in general, I think globalization is the main factor as to why the average pay check seems to not go quite as far these days as it used to.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Atton wrote:

The simplicity of the past is something that I envy. I honestly find complexity to be rather depressing.

Oh yeah…look at how much tecchy s~~~ people spend money on today they didn’t 30 years ago. When I was a kid we had a land line and an antenna tv. Now I know broke people that have cable tv, a smart phone with a top tier package, a land line, high speed internet, and subscriptions like netflix/hulu/sirius. They think they need this s~~~ and its just 50 dollars here, 10 there…but at the end of the year it adds up to thousands of dollars.

I used to work with one guy who was working 3 jobs for a while, yet had the HBO package at home. I asked him one day why he even has it when he’s never home to watch it and he just stared at me blankly like it never even occurred to him he was shelling out over 100 dollars a month for a cable bill when he was barely ever home to even watch it. With the amount he watched it over the years he easily p~~~ed away enough money to buy a brand new car and he would have had just as much enjoyment out of an occasional movie rental since he primarily watched movies and a few series like Sopranos that are on dvd anyhow.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

$100 dollar bill could buy all kinds of s~~~ in the 80s now it evaporates instantly.

1980 $100 dollars could buy a running used car that would pass inspection, the year before I paid $150 dollars for a 1969 Mercury Cougar Xr7 in almost immaculate condition. now you’re lucky if you can buy a tire for $150 dollars! Wait till things go into hyper inflation, upward mobility will cease and multitudes will go under the gangbanksters bus, license plate # FED1913!
Right now we’re experiencing a little deflation, a dangerous sign that things are going to implode as incalculable amounts of wealth will evaporate into thin air (as all the markets tumble in a massive collapse like dominoes crashing into one another. The eminence drain on the economy is mostly to blame on excessive wasteful spending with the largest tax hike in history, the event horizon is inevitable at this point in the gangbanksters hijacked timeling.

[hellraiderParticipant 2837]

inflation and the goverment tax system.
Who do you think pays for c~~~s to stay at home?
yup, you.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

hellraider wrote:

inflation and the goverment tax system.
Who do you think pays for c~~~s to stay at home?
yup, you.

Taxes are huge. Everybody always wants to just look at income tax rates and point out how they were higher in the past, but mil rates on property in my area have gone way up over the years, state taxes of all kinds have gone up, there have been a ton more state and federal taxes created that didn’t even used to exist, and most states and the federal government are massively in debt so taxes in the future have nowhere to go but up.

We also have some of the highest taxes on businesses in the world…and these taxes just get passed on to the consumer via higher prices.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

hellraider wrote:

inflation and the goverment tax system.
Who do you think pays for c~~~s to stay at home?
yup, you.

Cmon main dey need dis welfah dollaz
How u wan’ing dem crak hoz to pay for deh babiez odawise?

L-m-a-o

The equation is simple
Single mothers = cancer

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Fractional reserve banking with it’s fiat money supply results in this type of situation where people become poorer and poorer. We’re all in the same boat. Consider holding precious metal outside the banking system.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

BlacqueJacqueShellacque wrote:

Inflation is the hidden tax. All fiat currencies, one hundred percent of the time, eventually return to their intrinsic value, zero.

Ahh a a man that has studied macroecon – excellent.

Oh and to answer a question you had from an earlier thread – my handle is from Mothy Python’s The Life of Brian.

My actual dick is about average to (very)slightly above, depending on who’s stats you believe, for the record.

Biggvus_Dickvs is just the funniest Roman name I ever heard, and I love Monty Python. It was either this or Incontinentia Buttocks, but that’s his wife.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Anonymous 3]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

Consider holding precious metal outside the banking system.

Most of precious metal is used for jewellery, smaller part in electronics. If s~~~ collapses, people will sell their jewelry for everyday items. And so the over supply on market will drop the value of your metals too.

I prefer Chrome-Vanadium instead of gold, a set of good tools can help one out from some problems. I prefer investing my time to learn things that are useful in work, so I can get employment in a bad future too. And for other investment, get some steel or aircraft aluminium too: A good bicycle with good puncture-proof tires and high-end durable parts and good locks can be your transportation in any SHTF that may happen, no need for petrol or extremely expensive parts, no legal issues and professional repairman needed, when replacing parts with better ones yourself, and standard parts are available every city.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

be careful about investing a lot in raw gold in silver. here’s why
In USSR it was illegal to hold and trade in precious metals for anyone but government officials.
You would go to jail if caught doing that.
Showing up at a jewelry store with raw metals would have been treated as showing up at a metal recycling shop with miles and miles of high voltage wires – not only nobody would dare buying them – you’d be arrested in no time.
The only workaround around this problem – was to hold and trade in actual jewelry, coins of numismatic value, medals with supporting paperwork or museum-worthy antiques. Even then you’d have to be extremely careful and trade it only little by little without tripping any alarms – in different towns and cities.
If you don’t think same thing can’t happen here – you are a fool.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[Anonymous 1]

I’m going to invest in toilet paper and whiskey….

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Beer wrote:

I could easy come up with a whole list of things I think contribute, but in general, I think globalization is the main factor as to why the average pay check seems to not go quite as far these days as it used to.

BINGO! We have a winner. If only there were a political candidate out there talking about reversing the s~~~ deals that so-called “free trade” has brought us…..

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[EtrangereParticipant 706]

What happens if you take a rich country and a poor country and combine their economies? You end up with one big economy somewhere in the middle. We were the rich country…guess which direction we’ll be moving in….I could easy come up with a whole list of things I think contribute, but in general, I think globalization is the main factor as to why the average pay check seems to not go quite as far these days as it used to.

You just hit it out of the park again my friend. I hate to say it but looks like it will just be getting worse. I’ve already resigned myself to the fact I’ll be working until they put me in my grave(if I can even afford the burial fees). Back to the OP :

Bestie we are the same age approximately , and yes even in the US it was easier. Women were not as fat , and would come f~~~ you just because you were good looking and they liked you. Not what YOU could do for THEM. I remember in my 20’s living in Northwest Louisiana I had an apartment with some hand me down furniture , and survived okay(considering I drank a lot more)… I didn’t even have a car , but still had this hot red head who used to come cook for me and f~~~ my brains out on a regular basis just out of attraction , I had a brunette(mixed Phillipino) who did also. I miss those days

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

The 1980s was a fun time to be alive. The main problem I had during that time was: MINIMUM WAGE. It was $3.35 an hour for a long time. And it was hard to find an apartment for less than $500 a month (in the Los Angeles area). Suppose you found an apartment for $400 a month and your net monthly salary was $500? That situation sucked. If you were fresh out of high school, you could get some roommates or maybe live with your parents for a few years until you got a pay raise. Or join a branch of the Armed Forces—that’s how I escaped.

Other than that, life was pretty good. I could go on a date with a girl without spending more than $20. You could go to Disneyland for $40 (ticket, parking, lunch). Gas was between $1 to $1.50 a gallon for a very long time. You could go to a discount supermarket and buy a lot of food.

This month I spent over $900 on bills. I really wish I could make more money! You have to make at least $40,000 a year to live comfortably in the USA—in most cities—if you’re single. Every time I manage to save up some money, my car starts acting up. Then I have to spend hundreds of dollars to get it fixed.

I don’t know how single parents do it. If I had to spend $700 a month on rent and $300 a month on groceries each month, I’d go crazy.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

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