When will the church start attacking mgtow?

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

“As a Pastor, I am telling you it is a SIN not to marry a woman !”
“Hey Pastor, who asked you ?”

Simple solution. The power of saying “no”.

Frank V.

[HitmanParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Enjoy. Prepare to laugh your f~~~ing head off.

Hahahaha !!! shame on ME ! ..
that guy is a white-knighting CHUMP !

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

The_Mad_Pirate wrote:

@mackiavelic if this is the letter you are speaking about http://www.news.va/en/news/at-the-general-audience-pope-francis-speaks-abou-9

What he says is that is a form of male chauvinism to state the objective truth : that feminism f~~~ed up the legal system.

The pope is saying this? That’s a laugh.

That virgin is the least qualified person on the planet to talk about men’s relationships with women.

When the pope has been wrung through the divorce courts, then he’ll be qualified to talk about what’s “chauvinistic” or not. Until then he’d best keep his stupid mouth shut on things he knows f~~~ all about.

[AttonParticipant]

Frank V. wrote:

“As a Pastor, I am telling you it is a SIN not to marry a woman !”
“Hey Pastor, who asked you ?”

Simple solution. The power of saying “no”.

Frank V.

It raises the question how is marriage today anything like it was in the bible. How is it even possible to legitimately meet this expectation?

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

They don’t have the b~~~~ to attack us. They’re still isolated and alienated by the Political Correctness gurus of the 21st century. So Unfortunately they won’t be making fools of themselves in front of the entire world trying to attack our reason and logic. Ironically they are the biggest threat to their own reputation. I wish the world could see them for who they are. A very good example of that would be Ted Haggard.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Atton wrote:

Frank V. wrote:

“As a Pastor, I am telling you it is a SIN not to marry a woman !”
“Hey Pastor, who asked you ?”

Simple solution. The power of saying “no”.

Frank V.

It raises the question how is marriage today anything like it was in the bible. How is it even possible to legitimately meet this expectation?

It’s not and it never was. Women have always been out to screw men over and cheat on their husbands. The people who created the expectation of biblical marriage were very delusional and stupid, and that’s assuming that most of them are not con artists.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t think there will be an outright attack of any significance. If you look at the history of the Christian religion, it is quite common for them to originally condemn the current controversial behavior, then ignore when it becomes regularly accepted, followed by adaptation and incorporation.

Churches, used to be against modern music, now most major cities have Christian pop stations, and most churches have a modern style music at services. They used to be against capitalism, but now they have mega churches with in-church stores. They were against women in leadership positions, then allowed them to take minor rules, and now many denominations allow women to run a church. They are still adapting to homosexuality…it won’t be long now.

As for MGTOW, the church has recognized that they are losing men, and have be gone to make changes. Right now, it seems they are focusing on married men, but it won’t be too much longer before they realize they need to focus on unmarried men.

I don’t think they will be pro-MGTOW, they cannot be, but they will find a way to accept it, and bring them in. All that said however, women still have the power in the church, and will not make it an easy transition. I would not be surprised if the church attempts to separate them someone (and of course, women will not accept that)

Ok. Then do it.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t think they will be pro-MGTOW, they cannot be, but they will find a way to accept it, and bring them in.

How are they going to do that when men don’t want to be brought? I have no doubt that they’ll eventually start trying to bring men back into the fold once their donation plates get too light, but just like women I think they’re going to find it’s too little, too late.

Sorry organized religion, but we’re Going Our Own Way. No tithes for you.

[narwhalParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

narwhal wrote:

I don’t think they will be pro-MGTOW, they cannot be, but they will find a way to accept it, and bring them in.

How are they going to do that when men don’t want to be brought? I have no doubt that they’ll eventually start trying to bring men back into the fold once their donation plates get too light, but just like women I think they’re going to find it’s too little, too late.

Sorry organized religion, but we’re Going Our Own Way. No tithes for you.

By doing more of the things men like and less of the things they do not. My current church is kinda lame (part of the reason I rarely attend), but my old choose was moving in that direction. During football season, they would have steak and stogies during MNF. One of the pastors would have ride trips (motorcycles) planned a few times a year. They athletes as guest speakers. They did have men only groups that met periodically, and those really were not that great at addressing men’s issues. As I said, they were not there yet, but they were getting there.

I don’t exactly how it will look in the end, but the fact that MGTOW isn’t fundamentally in conflict with Christianity, Christianity has a history of adapting to the local population, because Christianity needs money, and because the Christian is actually interested (sometimes) in the well being of people makes me believe it will happen. Besides that, I do believe there are men who want to participate in church and belong, but just have no idea how they fit in.

I suppose I fit into the category of not knowing how I fit in. At my current church, I feel completely lost. The primary reason I attend is that I want my kids to have an understanding of Christianity so they can make a good decision. My ex isn’t going to do that.

Ok. Then do it.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

If any religious shmuck tries to shame me about marriage I’ll just tell them find me a virgin and I’ll consider it.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Beer wrote:

If any religious shmuck tries to shame me about marriage I’ll just tell them find me a virgin and I’ll consider it.

Either that, or you can say: “I’m just following the footsteps of Jesus. He never got married, right?”

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t exactly how it will look in the end, but the fact that MGTOW isn’t fundamentally in conflict with Christianity,

Of course not. Jesus was a MGHOW.

But here’s the thing of it: if a MGHOW ever goes back to organized religion, it will be on his terms, not theirs. That’s what Going Your Own Way is. And the church will have to accept that or go without.

Beer wrote:

If any religious shmuck tries to shame me about marriage I’ll just tell them find me a virgin and I’ll consider it.

Just one? Can’t they do better than that? I hear the muslims are offering forty.

I wonder what the going rate is in Buddhism.

[Anonymous 3]

sidecar wrote:

Just one? Can’t they do better than that? I hear the muslims are offering forty.

I wonder what the going rate is in Buddhism.

I don’t think Muslims in the West are doing too well either. Christianity was routed in the West by feminism, and at one point Christianity was indeed strong and upright here.

Islam didn’t even have a foothold, and they don’t have any real conviction. Muslims that come to the US quickly get feminized. I doubt you can find a Western Muslim woman that is a virgin and that isn’t even more materialistic than her white counterpart. My experience of Muslim women in the West is they are even more demanding and hostile than any white woman.

[sidecarParticipant 35862]

That was supposed to be a joke. I was amused by the idea of the major religions in a bidding war trying to get men to sign up. And failing.

That being said, I kind of want to walk into a scientology recruiting center and ask them: “So, how many virgins are you guys offering?”

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Pastors like Driscoll seem to think that we care what he thinks.

Frankly, he can rant and rave and stomp his feet all he wants. It makes no matter to me.

I’ll just laugh at him when he gets replaced by his loving wife or is caught with a 16 year old like Schapp.

Some of these big pastors are as bad at being needy attention whores as any woman.

Frank V.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I will put the quote below for context. It is written Jesus said he is The Way, The Truth and The Life. A Christian perspective would be Jesus is more than MGTOW/MGHOW, he is THE MGTOW/MGHOW, and one Christians can learn from. You see Churches end up having no regard to the own way of men, and decide there is ONE way with this, and push agendas on other men and women to conform to certain perceptions they have, usually married to acceptability in culture.

sidecar wrote:

narwhal wrote:

I don’t exactly how it will look in the end, but the fact that MGTOW isn’t fundamentally in conflict with Christianity,

Of course not. Jesus was a MGHOW.

But here’s the thing of it: if a MGHOW ever goes back to organized religion, it will be on his terms, not theirs. That’s what Going Your Own Way is. And the church will have to accept that or go without.

Beer wrote:

If any religious shmuck tries to shame me about marriage I’ll just tell them find me a virgin and I’ll consider it.

Just one? Can’t they do better than that? I hear the muslims are offering forty.

I wonder what the going rate is in Buddhism.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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