What Was The Final Straw ?

[Bob DylanParticipant 1352]

There were two happily divorced men having a leasurely Saturday breakfast together, at a small, ‘mom & pop’ café.
One of the men asked “Do you remember the point in time, where you knew that your marriage was over ?” After a pause, the other man grinned and chuckled. He then said “Oh yes !, very clearly. We were having breakfast together, and what I meant to say to her was ‘Dear, would you please pass the sugar ?’, but what came out of my mouth was ‘You F~~~ing Bitch !…You Ruined My Life !!!’ “

..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

[foolsgoldParticipant 5649]

She took the kids and left one day. She’d only been gone for 5 days and I got a call from the bank saying my mortgage payment had bounced. She had cleared out all the accounts. I knew it was over that day. That was just the beginning of her wrongdoings. All she would have had to do was leave enough money in the account for the mortgage payment to clear. It would have bought her some time because I wouldn’t have figured it out until the next month. There was plenty of money in the account but she was greedy. Like ALL of them. Dumb (UN+

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

foolsgold wrote:

It would have bought her some time because I wouldn’t have figured it out until the next month.

My ex was incapacitated by severe post partum depression and decided one day that I was the problem so she left me and took our son 8 hrs away while I was at work and completely out of the loop. Luckily she had to admit that she couldn’t care for our son in her condition and I got full custody for the first 3 years.

Who is stupid enough to take the kid and be incapacitated? She was counting on me being a good beta male and waiting for her to make up her mind whether we were over or not.

Take my kid and it’s curtains for you, I told her.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Deadly RaverParticipant]

Thankfully I had never been married nor really had any true relationships. my breaking point came when thanks to this site, I finally understood why.

It took a sledgehammer to get through the blue pill shell covering my head and ears, but finally, I finally got the message. There may have been love before, but there ain’t no love here anymore. I was forced to look at things logically, and that’s when the blinders and chains came off.

People always want to make it about the pussy. Man, we have apps for that……………..No. seriously. Getting a hole to stick your dick in has probably never been easier for your average everyday man. FFS, there is, or was, a TV show on HBO about a place called the moonlight Bunny ranch……..a place where prostitution is legal. GO IN, GET IT ON, GET OFF, AND GET OUT. No. It isn’t about the pussy.

As so many MGTOW have come to understand, the juice isn’t worth the squeeze. The thing I wanted, the,”Happily ever after”? Yeah. I think we all know how that works out these days. When that became the faint hope in the dark sea of negativeity that it is, that was my final straw.

Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.

[Knights Templar RisingParticipant 5106]

When she threatened to have me arrested on two false allegations, one of which could have ruined my career. What we were, then died in that 60 seconds…my transformation was Vader like, I will never trust or respect another woman as long as I live.

Sovereignty above all else.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

One night after going out i helped her take off her dress, she covered her self up and looked at me with a disgusted look, like when you see a roach or a rat.

Next day in the kitcheng table “i gottoguether with you becouse i was alone, you are kind, easy to adapt to and took care of me”

14 years of lies rained down on me like a bucket of bricks.

Hahaha is funny now i look back my face must have been awesome to look at.

Since then all women i met (banged or not) told me a few things:

1) the truth we dont like men, we just need them.
2) i need a men that can add value to my life.
3) men exist by millions and they are easy to get, one today another flavour tomorrow (my own sister).
4) a men can be as ugly as a monkey, for as long as he delivers what we want we dont care.
5) bad boys are such a challenge.
6) im on the time of my life where i need stability.
7) everything i told you as a kid was wrong, im sorry, i didnt knew better (my mother).
8) choose, you can love women or uderstand them, you cant do both.

I choosed to understand and now i know, there is no way to love such a twisted creature.

Im ok with that.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[Branched offParticipant 10935]

Marriage break up -when we had argued one night and I went back to her room (we were sleeping separately) like a good little beta to apologise for what had not been my fault and got told off for upsetting her again by apologising. I said “This is the best moment I can see for us to divorce, next year would be harder.” Then for the first and only time in our whole relationship she shed a single tear. Next day when I got home from work she had taken the children and gone without leaving a note. She then waited for me to come crawling “I will come back if you will just say sorry”. I changed the locks.

Break ups in significant relationships where it has not been mutual and not been my fault;
When she gave me a Christmas present that I instantly in a moment of epiphany worked out another lover had given her. (She denied he was her lover but I read her diary).
When she laughed dismissively when I said I was sexually frustrated in the relationship. If she had not laughed but had taken my feelings seriously and set out her reasons why she did not want to do it more, I would have been totally up for working through it but I was clearly just a silly Beta controlled by a silly little dick, so I told her in about 5 sentences that she was very selfish and life would reward her for her selfishness (it was already doing so as she was 41, had shagged god knows how many men but never married, was childless and lived alone). I then walked out of her door and have never seen her again.

A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

We were having a fight one day about something, and then she let it all out.

She went on and on about HOW and WHY I was the reason for ALL OF HER PROBLEMS. I guess me PROVIDING EVERYTHING from a nice house in the burbs to a paid car to drive and money/credit cards in her pocket while she never worked and only came into the marriage with debt was a PROBLEM.

Oh yeah, I was even home every night and weekend and spent plenty of time with her and the kids as well doing ALL TYPES OF S~~~ inside as well as outside the home just created more PROBLEMS for her.

Anyways, SHE KNEW THAT SHE F~~~ED UP HUGE….She tried to apologize later by saying that she was just mad and that she didn’t mean “most” of it. I didn’t care to hear what she was and wasn’t apologizing for. AFTER DOING MORE FOR HER THEN ANY HUMAN EVER HAS AND EVER WILL FOR THIS HO, My internal response was that you should be on your f~~~in knees sucking my c~~~ on demand and asking for more…..I KNEW THAT WE WERE ON THE WAY OUT.

I “tried” after that, but I KNEW.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

When my ex tried to get out of having sex by saying that as couples age they have sex less. She then justified the statement by saying that she had talked to a few colleagues at work and they made the same claim. At that time she was 40 and I was 38 and she’s trying to make it out like we were 70 and 68 respectively. At that point I realized that I had been paying all the bills, doing most of the work to keep up the house and building “our” assets and net worth while she did the minimal and was going to take the sex away too. She also ballooned up past 200 pounds so I asked myself, “What is she contributing and why am I staying here?” She quit living up to every aspect of what she said she was going to be before we were married.
For women, relationships between two people aren’t really between just two people. It’s influenced by everyone else. I wanted to counter her statement with, “Well the people I talk to say that they allow other women to be involved with threesomes in order to keep the sex life active and alive.” OR I could have made up a story about how my other work colleague was allowed to cheat with younger women when the wife declined sex. For women, it’s OK to allow others to influence your personal relationships as long as it fits their narrative and benefits them. Anything else is just wrong and unacceptable. Once I realized that, I knew where I was headed and that my marriage was done.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Bob DylanParticipant 1352]

Awakened wrote:

I guess me PROVIDING EVERYTHING from a nice house in the burbs to a paid car to drive and money/credit cards in her pocket while she never worked and only came into the marriage with debt was a PROBLEM. Oh yeah, I was even home every night and weekend and spent plenty of time with her and the kids as well doing ALL TYPES OF S~~~ inside as well as outside the home just created more PROBLEMS for her.

This ^^^^ was my ‘marriage with kids’ Oh, the stomach knots, just driving up and seeing her car ! Seriously, I wanted to take a nose-dive off of a tall building !
Finally, I decided to give her everything except my clothes, stereo system and guitars. (I even gave her my paid-for car), and I literally ‘bought’ my children from her, by getting legal custody and paying her the same amount of child support that she would have gotten from me, to ‘help her’ cover expenses of the kids while they were on their visitations, every other weekend.
My attorney thought that I was insane !
Looking back, it was some of the best money that I ever spent !!! No regrets <G>

..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

[AutoliteParticipant]

I’ve never been married but my first step down the MGTOW path was after being blind-sided in a bad breakup when I realized that women really have no soul. That was my ‘moment’.

I knew then that relationshhits and marriages were nothing more than a one sided liability. You cannot plan or build a life with anybody who can so easily and so suddenly just get up and walk away with zero warning. It would be like pouring your hard earned money into a financial investment that you know absolutely nothing about and there’s no reason to expect any sort of return. Who would do something like that???

[Nags4CashParticipant 1163]

Hmm what’s interesting to me is that no one said they had the full realization at the earlier more subtle signs.

I believe when people show me who they are instantly.

I have a friend who’s currently dating someone and I asked how she was splitting the expenses since he’s blue pill but starting to understand.

He said he was paying for everything and even asked him to babysit after a month of dating. I said with no tact at all, that she sees him as a tool for money and a resource to help with her baby. That is an obvious point that she is more trouble than she’s worth, but he doesn’t quite see it.

Murph ~ There is nothing brave or manly about entering into a contract with somebody which allows them to take your money, assets, children, and decades of your future income on a mere whim.

[Bob DylanParticipant 1352]

Mr. Spock wrote:

I wanted to counter her statement with, “Well the people I talk to say that they allow other women to be involved with threesomes in order to keep the sex life active and alive.”

Spock, Too, too funny !

‘The hive’ will always make ‘collective’ major decisions regarding the marriage…..but, after the divorce, they are powerless unless one has possibly left his b~~~~ hanging above the fireplace mantle…lol…

..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

[AutoliteParticipant]

Nags4Cash wrote:

Hmm what’s interesting to me is that no one said they had the full realization at the earlier more subtle signs.

We tend to delude ourselves. That’s just human nature. We will try and put a positive spin on a hopeless situation and try to convince ourselves that things can be fixed when rationality says different. It’s an emotion driven thinking process that will most often override our logic driven thinking process. Emotion in very many if not most instances overrides logic because that’s just how our human brains are wired…

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Was it when I caught her lying about credit cards she had? No

Was it when she lied to me about the dentist telling her she had to have veneers and they only cost $900? Bill came and it was x 3 that. NO

Was it when she took the money out of savings over the course of a year and kept hiding the statements? NO

Was it when she came home with her face swollen as f~~~ from filler and injections and when asked said, “What are you talking about”? NO

was it when I caught her lying about credit cards again? No

Was it when she took more money out of savings? No

Was it when I caught her texting a “friend” from work while we were on “date night” and working on things? YES. I
I was gone after that.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Mr. Spock wrote:

When my ex tried to get out of having sex by saying that as couples age they have sex less. She then justified the statement by saying that she had talked to a few colleagues at work and they made the same claim. At that time she was 40 and I was 38 and she’s trying to make it out like we were 70 and 68 respectively. At that point I realized that I had been paying all the bills, doing most of the work to keep up the house and building “our” assets and net worth while she did the minimal and was going to take the sex away too. She also ballooned up past 200 pounds so I asked myself, “What is she contributing and why am I staying here?” She quit living up to every aspect of what she said she was going to be before we were married.

Aside from ballooning up to 200 lbs., I can relate to EVERYTHING ELSE.

I can also throw in the mix that she became/is a COMPLETE JESUS FREAK.

Yeah, this lil Cupcake is just one Red Pill after another…..NEVER AGAIN !!!!!

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Bob Dylan wrote:

This ^^^^ was my ‘marriage with kids’ Oh, the stomach knots, just driving up and seeing her car ! Seriously, I wanted to take a nose-dive off of a tall building !

I don’t care enough anymore to get the stomach nots, but I have as little to do with her as possible, and someday I WONT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH HER.

I never contemplated throwing myself off a building, but I wouldn’t be broken hearted if she chose that path.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Autolite wrote:

We tend to delude ourselves. That’s just human nature. We will try and put a positive spin on a hopeless situation and try to convince ourselves that things can be fixed when rationality says different. It’s an emotion driven thinking process that will most often override our logic driven thinking process. Emotion in very many if not most instances overrides logic because that’s just how our human brains are wired…

I agree with what you’re saying.

Let me throw my spin on it….

That’s just the Blue Pill. We will try and put a positive spin on a hopeless situation and try to convince ourselves that things can be fixed when rationality says different. It’s the Blue Pill emotional influences that will most often TRY to override our logic driven thinking process. The Blue Pill is hardwired into our emotions and will try to override our logic but it can be successfully “managed” by Red Pill Logic.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Autolite wrote:

I’ve never been married but my first step down the MGTOW path was after being blind-sided in a bad breakup when I realized that women really have no soul. That was my ‘moment’.
I knew then that relationshhits and marriages were nothing more than a one sided liability. You cannot plan or build a life with anybody who can so easily and so suddenly just get up and walk away with zero warning. It would be like pouring your hard earned money into a financial investment that you know absolutely nothing about and there’s no reason to expect any sort of return. Who would do something like that???

Tell you this, if women were on the side of the man in the marriage ‘contract’, and we got their deal, and they got ours, none of them would voluntarily enter into that arrangement.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Honestly, for me. I was the final straw.
In both my marriages and in every type of relationship (personal or business) I was ever involved in, ultimately I was the straw that broke my own back.
Don’t misunderstand me, I am in no way giving a “puzzy pass” to anyone.
All I am saying is that it was just the moment of realization when it came to light that regardless of my efforts and sacrifices, I was judged as never good enough for others regardless of whether it was a work or personal relationship. It was always what I could provide, sustain, provide more of, and the presumed motive that was ascribed to me by and for others.
Usually at some point in time (sooner more than later in the last decade) I discover that the cons far outweigh the pros in “relationships” and promptly leave or don’t even engage to begin with.
IMHO, if I am the “foundation” of any and every relationship I am involved in then I do everything and anything within my morals to maintain and protect me.
So, yes.
I am the final straw. (For myself)

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

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