What is the meaning of life?

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    Enjoy The Decline
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    Read this book. Even the great Tony Robbins, a multi-million dollar self help guru quoted this book and I will tell you what he said about it. He basically said that when the writer of that book was a jewish doctor, who was forced to be in a German concentration camp. This same doctor had learned that in his time there, that the ones that actually survived the holocost German concentration camps, survived because they have a meaning behind their suffering to even try to survive long enough to finally get rescued at all one day. For the author’s case, the meaning behind his suffering is that he can one day be reunited with his loved one if he does finally try to find a way to escape or to even be rescued by the allied forces if he survived long enough. Think of your life as a concentration camp basically even though it is probably an extreme example, if you cannot find your own meaning behind your own suffering in your life, you would probably not last very long, or you would probably just not really live. For anyone who is offended by what I said, I just like to point out that I do have goals in life too, but I myself am also trying to find my own meaning behind my suffering once I do start reaching my 40s. Right now I am okay since I am just trying to work at what I am going to do in life, but once things become predictable and I got my sh*t together, I probably have to work on something greater than myself, since I will probably not start a family which is something that is suppose to be original meaning of life for humans in general.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #272379
    Rennie
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    Kevin Langley: Kevin, you know how sometimes you ask me questions that I can’t answer.

    Kevin Langley: Yeah Like “What is an intrauterine device”?

    David Langley: I think more like “What’s the meaning of life?”

    Kevin Langley: I never asked you that.

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    Badger
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    Here is an excerpt from several books that relate to this question.

    FROM: People in Quandaries, by Wendell Johnson

    p. 52
    In the meaningful use of language it is a cardinal rule that the terminology of the question determines the terminology of the answer. One cannot get a clear answer to a vague question.

    p. 53
    If the question is stated precisely, the means of answering it are clearly indicated. The specific observations needed, and the conditions under which they are to be made, are implied in the question itself.

    p. 54
    In the whole history of human knowledge, there is scarcely any other notion more liberating, more conducive to clear-headedness, than this notion that some questions are unanswerable. It is not a matter of our not having the information or the intelligence with which to answer them. It is simply that the questions do not imply just what particular information may be required.

    p. 55
    Outside of verbal circles lies wisdom. And the way to get outside of them is to shatter them by the simple method of classifying them as noisy or nonsensical. The way to stay outside of them is to ask questions clearly enough to indicate where and when one may reasonably expect to find the answers.

    p. 289
    Non-Sense Questions

    There are certain words which tend to make for confusing, unanswerable questions.

    Among these words are (there are many others): why, should or ought, right and wrong and sometimes how and cause.

    Such questions contain unlimited terms. That is to say, the terms why, should, cause, is, etc., are used in such a way that one cannot recognize the limits of their meaning. Therefore, one is unable to know whether any particular answer is relevant or valid. Another way to put it is this: The terms are unlimited in the sense that the levels of abstraction on which they are used, and on which an answer is to be made, is in no way indicated. The terms are multiordinal (can be used on level of abstraction) and they have no general meaning, because their meanings depend on the level of abstraction on which they are used.

    p. 291
    Whenever one asks a question, one has then to question the question by asking, “What sort of observations, or reported observations, would serve to answer it?” If that cannot be answered, then nothing has been asked. There is no question to be answered.

    Examples:
    Why was I born?
    What is wrong with me?
    What is the meaning of life?
    What is the secret to success?
    Why did this have to happen to me?
    How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?

    FROM: Understanding Zen, by Benjamin and Amy Radcliff
    CHAPTER FOUR: Meaning and Existence

    p. 71
    The reality of your existence — the words on the page (computer screen) you are reading, the texture of the paper on which they are printed, the ambient sounds you may be hearing – these things are the “stuff” that constitute your life. They have no meaning aside from themselves. They do not refer to, they do not signify, anything else.

    Life cannot be understood, and thus assigned a meaning, because life is not an abstraction. …the endeavor to understand life, to find meaning and purpose is and endless cycle of inaction where the mind desperately tries to clutch both itself and experience, like a sound trying to hear itself.

    p. 75
    Thus, the search for meaning is the result of an imaginary ego mindlessly attempting the impossible, like an ear trying to hear itself hearing. That fact that there is no meaning to be found is not a reason for despair, in that the problem is not in the absence of meaning but in the logical and experiential errors that give rise to asking of a pointless and irrelevant question.

    FROM: Awareness: The Perils and Opportunities of Reality, by Anthony de Mello
    ASSORTED LANDMINES

    p. 148
    As soon as you look at the world through and ideology you are finished. No reality fits an ideology. Life is beyond that. That is why people are always searching for a meaning to life. But life has no meaning; it cannot have meaning because meaning is a formula; meaning is something that makes sense to the mind. Every time you make sense out of reality, you bump into something that destroys the sense you made. Meaning is only found when you go beyond meaning. Life only makes sense when you perceive it as mystery, and it makes no sense to the conceptualizing mind.

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    In my opinion, travel, see the world, explore different cultures, enjoy the vast array of delicious foods, enjoy relaxation, have sex with different women, and most importantly pursue your passions…

    The purpose of life is find and pursue your passion. Some men don’t find out their passions until much later in life, some are blessed to realize it earlier on in life. Your passion should be something that gives you an incredible amount of emotional happiness. It should be worked hard for, and practiced to reap rewards from. The goal is not to find the end to rewards, but to appreciate the journey it takes to achieve the rewards.

    The other purpose is to experience as many women as you can before you die. Obviously as a MGTOW that means no relationships/marriage/kids etc, but just enjoy the first few months with a new woman every so often to give you that dopamine induced hit of “natural” high you’re capable of receiving without drugs.

    Once you take the red pill, you will eventually conclude that; there's no turning back.

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