What is MGTOW to me, and why the infighting?

[Sam MGTOWParticipant 5]

Remember my #MGTOW brothers, there is no “ism’s” in MGTOW. It just is what it is. We ate the red pill, and unless your having trouble digesting it still, the game is over. That’s what I believe makes MGTOW so comfortable, it’s SO passive. I’m happy to leave the in-fighting to the MRA’s and Feministy. Remember, your GOING YOUR OWN WAY. Let’s keep it simple, Unless I’ve forgotten something, last time I checked MGTOW in my opinion is::

1. Don’t get married as it favors the women

2. Don’t get into a sexual or emotional relationship. Or keep it very minimal as you know it’s not possible or sustainable and the risks such as baby jail and STD’s far out way the benefits ect…

3. Avoid having children, as it will hinder you going your own way (unless having children is part of going your own way)

4. Reward the state as least as possible where ever you can as it favors women predominantly and your just paying for other people’s children.

5. Do what ever the hell you like with your life as long as you treat yourself well and don’t hurt others or their property.

MRA -Fights for men’s rights

Feminist – fights for women’s rights

MGTOW – (already left the building)

If your fighting with anyone on these issues, you might just not be as MGTOW as you think.

Don’t get me wrong I love the discussions/logical debates, points of view the comedy and various supports, but leave the bickering for the females. Us guys have already fought each other in blue pill world, most of your lives, as white knights and traditionalists ect. And i think it’s time for a break. The MGTOW community is my safe haven from fighting, it’s a place to share, be enlighten or just be.

In my opinion, MGTOW is an understanding. It’s not a movement. (Although there is a collective) So when I see popular male personalities making content attempting to shame other men or females shaming other females (you know who you are) for that matter, I can only shake my head as MGTOW is the last place bickering should occur, we should already be going our own way.

New comers need support for the digestion process. Not infighting, confusion, or deconstructive commentary.

I bit the red pill in 2009 before I even knew what MGTOW was. When I found out, my years of thinking and digesting (which is hard) were all validated and my emotions, finally became words.. Sandman led me in, then bar bar, stardusk, Spatznaz, dark knight and many others took me further later AVFM gave me there side and Erin Pizzey, Karen Straughn and Feminism lol showed me I’m not a misogynist! Just sane :-). For me each part was needed in my understanding and validation, through various changes in my social evolution. Now days I tend to stick around for a laugh from Terrence Popp and watch a dark Knight or spetznas video if I get the time or make MGTOW art to inspire any new comers.

Each channel is necessary for a man’s growth at different times for different personalities. You don’t have to agree with everything that is said but generally I found nuggets of truth scattered throughout everybody’s content. And if you don’t like it just don’t comment, your only leaving a nasty taste in the eyes of the content providers and the newbies, who are most likey more enthusiastic, and contributing more than you.

Sorry it was so long but I had to get that of my chest. I already know, haters gonna hate.

Have a nice day and kind regards,

Sam MGTOW

[Anonymous 42]

Sam MGTOW wrote:

So when I see popular male personalities making content attempting to shame other men or females shaming other females (you know who you are) for that matter, I can only shake my head as MGTOW is the last place bickering should occur, we should already be going our own way.

Sam MGTOW wrote:

And if you don’t like it just don’t comment, your only leaving a nasty taste in the eyes of the content providers and the newbies, who are most likey more enthusiastic, and contributing more than you.

Hey Sam, I appreciate your post, however it’s only fair to “call-out” whoever “you” are disgruntled with. I was brought up not to generalize but rather be specific when making accusations about another individual in a group, and their objections. “Slap the individual” and not the group in general. Your technique for controversy mirrors the same thing we  see in the gynocentric community. Please be more accurate in your speech. Whoever you have a problem with should be directed at that individual/s and the content you disapprove of. Thank-you for standing up…

[Sam MGTOWParticipant 5]

OK I’m sorry, I thought I was being polite for not being specific.

Karen straughn V feminism lol

Bar bar V  sandman

AVFM v MGTOW

And any others I’ve missed.

Kind regards,

Sam MGTOW 🙂

 

 

[Anonymous 42]

Thanks Sam, I thought you were talking about members in mgtow.com, now I know it’s U-Tube, I was personally insulted by sandman’s statements about celibate MGTOWS. It’s not the first time I felt insulted by some of his remarks. I do not attack other MGTOWS on U-Tube, that’s a “public” forum, and young men unknowing of the feminism that permeates there every breath, need not see MGTOWS arguing. It’s bad for business. In here, the gloves come off! We beat the living s~~~ out of each-other until we pound out the truth! No stone is left unturned…This place is the furnace of MGTOW, we burn feminism to the ground in our fires of truth….

[Anonymous 5]

Great post Sam MGTOW. I had the same insights from the same people.
It’s too easy to get sidetracked with the details. Each teacher of MGTOW goes their own way and we’re in no position to judge, especially judge each other.

Just about every guy who comes in feels that same validation. myself included.
If that’s the only thing I ever get out of MGTOW, that’ll be more than I ever expected.
For years I went among those around me thinking I was either some sort of evil genius that had worked out what was really going on,,or a sense that I might have been some overly sensitive, damaged individual.
The discovery of MGTOW led me to the realization that it’s a worldwide phenomena that even governments are now starting to treat seriously.

The last thing I want to do is fight with anyone whose in the same boat.
This is one of the few forums in the world we can openly state our opinions without being condemned by an insanely gender biased mentality.
It’ll always need to be kept on track, there’s always conflict and controversy, but the people running the show seem to be doing just that whenever it’s necessary.

EDIT: I find it mostly very boring when MGTOW Youtubers waste time and energy criticising each other. I mostly don’t care.

[Sam MGTOWParticipant 5]

Thank you, I’m glad we have that taken care of and have similar views. I’m a noob in here and I should have mentioned YouTube, I just took it for granted sorry. I’ll know to be more specific in future and that it is acceptable to do so in this arena. 🙂

Kind regards,

Sam MGTOW

[Sam MGTOWParticipant 5]

Thank you. You really sound like you have your s~~~ together. I’m glad there are others out there who think similarly!

You really expressed the evil genius idea perfect! I use to think I was totally crazy or a genius too! Now we know lol

Make sure to have a great MGTOW day whatever you do. 🙂

Kind regards,

Sam MGTOW

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

Well Sam here’s the thing, we are human, and even i we are men we have disagreements. Conflict has been a central tenant of mankind since there has been mankind. Expecting any group of people no matter how like minded to not infight at some point is asking for what has never been, nor will be. Just do your thing Sam….

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Sam MGTOWParticipant 5]

Point taken, I just wish MGTOW were that simple. For me it’s a breeze now, that’s why the arguing seems obsolete. It’s painful to watch sometimes. Although structured debates are great. 🙂

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