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My Dad was in the Army and he was an officer. I have lived in a few army bases with him and my family. I have no idea what life is like for enlisted military guys. I dont know what life is like in the baracks,what the rules and regulations are,whether or not i could own a car, taser, gun or property in general. I need someone to fill in the blanks because i will enlist in the U.S.M.C or the U.S Army if i decide not to go to college(which is very likely because im tired of letting my parents control my life). I would appreciate any and all information i get including personal stories about this. Please dont sugarcoat it. I need all the information i can get and im afraid to ask a recruiter about this because everyone says that recruiters are full of s~~~.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
Read this: http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2015/04/about-joining-military.html
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
I was in a long long time ago. When men were men and sheep ran scared. As someone that works everyday with soldiers, I can honestly say I am not impressed with this new Army.
However, take what I am saying with a grain of salt. When I was in the Army my MOS was separated both physically and socially from the rest of the Army. I am comparing a group of people that had high mental standards to a group of people I had only interacted with on rare occasions. I know for my old MOS the Army has lowered the standards so far that companies in my field will not hire anyone that has gone through my MOS AIT after 1999 without an EE degree from a real college and eight plus years of experience in a related field.
It’s not just the Army that has lowered its standards. So, for someone who just wants to do a little above bare minimum to succeed in life, it’s there for the taking until the Gen-Xers decide to leave the work force. Then it is all down hill from there. Idiocracy is starting to take hold. I do not see a future for society that is good. I wish everyone luck, and remember to bring a towel to wipe the drool off your chin once in awhile.
Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.
Consider a seagoing service or the Air force. Preferably the Coast Guard…choose a rating which keeps you out of harms way (Yeoman, Storekeeper, Public Relations Specialists – these rates are cushy positions)…and very less probability of being killed in a combat zone.
Only 4 years…that is unless you love the excitement, adventure, travel and pay/benefits.
It’s not for everyone…see a Coast Guard recruiter first.
I know that of which I speak.
Best of luck!
Im either going to join the Marine Corps or the Army and i would be willing to join the Navy if they tried to recruit me. By the way I want to go to combat and be a Special Forces Sniper.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
If combat is what you want, join the Marine Corps. You’ll get the best training available in the four branches and you’ll very likely be sent into combat, and very likely for the express purpose of making someone who doesn’t give a rat’s ass about your well-being a little more wealthier than they already are. If you want to be a Recon Marine, you’ll have a hard road ahead. Keep that goal in mind when you’re training, but focus on learning as much as you can in your DEP for now and just plain making it through basic when it starts. If you become a Fleet Marine, you will have to earn the opportunity to train for Recon. There isn’t some intramural sports league sign-up sheet for that. Try to find an active duty Marine officer not associated with your local recruiting station and offer to buy him dinner if he’s willing to discuss no-bulls~~~ career paths with you. When I was in the DEP, I learned more useful information from buying a steak dinner for a Lt. Col. that I met while I was out running in a city park than I ever did from my recruiters.
If you’re just trying to get out of your Dad’s house and your hometown, join the Air Force or Navy.
Army morale low despite 6-year, $287M optimism program
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/04/16/army-survey-morale/24897455/Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
If you are a MGTOW and are considering entering a massive state run bureaucracy, give it some serious thought.
You will be entering an institution that will heavily weighed to your disadvantage as a man. There will be increasingly higher levels of quotas and regulations that will reflect the interests of feminists at your expense. Your military service will be used to support a gynocentric state that needs you as fodder for it to continue and be perpetuated. And it’s the military, so think of political correctness times 10, but with military laws instead of civilian laws to enforce it.
But if you do decide to go that route, at least get a trade or education that you can use for your personal growth while you are there and when you release.
JD, I found this on the National Coalition for Men site, and it speaks directly to your question and my response. Please give it a read as it depicts life in the modern US military for men. If you are going to commit part of your life to it, take 15 minutes to get this side of the life you will be living.
JD, I found this on the National Coalition for Men site, and it speaks directly to your question and my response. Please give it a read as it depicts life in the modern US military for men. If you are going to commit part of your life to it, take 15 minutes to get this side of the life you will be living and what you could be facing.
I was in the army almost 26 years as an enlisted soldier. The first 11 years I was single. Even after you make Sergeant, you won’t be making that much money, still be living in the barracks and have to listen to everyone else’s music on Friday and Saturday nights unless you have a career specialty that can require shift work. I was a medic and had assignments at hospitals.
Okay. Answers to your questions.
By property to you mean a computer and a car and s~~~? Most definitely yest. If you mean a house, then the answer is also yes, BUT you will be relocating (if you are a career soldier) every 2 to 3 years. So buying a house in the area of your assignment would be impractical as you would not be able to afford a house (utilities, taxes, trash, internet) and a car (insurance, gas, maintenance) at the same time.
Rules in the barracks. Keep your s~~~ clean and for the love of God, keep your music turned down. Not everyone wants to listen to the Mormon Tabernacle Choir singing the greatest hits of the Beatles.
Overall rules after basic training and Advanced Individual Training (AIT), be at the right place at the right time with the right equipment. Your uniform is equipment. Do the best F****** job that you can, don’t bitch or volunteer too much, become a master at your chosen specialty.
I can’t speak for the Marine Corps. My first two assignments were to infantry units and luckily my third was an assignment to a support unit for Spec Opns at Ft. Bragg. The days were long, I didn’t sleep in a bed for weeks, I ate only MRE’s, and my feet would ache from the literally dozens of miles I would hump on foot every day and loved every minute of it.
Military towns are sh** holes. Fast food joints, strip bars, pawn shops, used car lots, and bars are just about what makes up a military town. Killeen TX, Fayetville NC, Anchorage AK, and on and on are all GI towns that cater to soldiers that serve at Ft. Hood, Ft. Bragg, and Ft. Wainwright and on and on. The only town that I loved (chock full of Pu***) was Ft Sam Houston in Austin, TX. Other than that Germany was a great place.
Recruiter are full of s***. They will lie to you about what career specialty you can get in to. If you want infantry then that will be easy. If you want to be a medic then study for the ASVAB. Tell them what you want and if/when they say no then tell them you’re going to the Marine Corps.
Get the post 9/11 GI bill and get the f*** out and go to college and become successful. If I knew what I know now then that is exactly what I would have done.
If you are going to enlist. Have a plan. Know the rules for how many years you have to serve to qualify for the Post 9/11 GI bill. Know how much you will earn on a monthly basis. See link below. Save your money and don’t party every weekend. right now that sounds easy but the allure of booze and bi****s can be mighty difficult to resist. Partying takes a lot of money. Don’t smoke dope. EVER. You will get kicked out. Yes they do regular p~~~ tests. Also work out at the gym and get in great physical condition. When you get out, college bi****s like the idea that they can bag a shredded dude with prospects. I am a college student at age 47 right now. It’s spring time and I feel like a dirty old man in looking at all of the hotties in skirts and shorts right now.
And one other thing. DON’T GET A GIRL PREGNANT OR GET MARRIED. The GI town bit***s and dependents that show a modicum of interest in an enlisted soldier are just trying to get out of their town instead of working for a living and going to college on their own.
Being a soldier isn’t an easy life but I am the man I am today because I was a soldier. I can honestly say that the Army taught me self reliance, how to study, responsibility, independence and that any limits that I think I have only exist in my mind and no where else.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
And jumping out of airplanes was fu***** fun.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
I’ll have to second Jacks suggestion, learn a trade or a skill you can use when you get out. Yeah combat arms (Infantry, Armor, Artillery)look great on a resume, but employers look for skills that apply to their respective fields. Next thing, get as much schooling as you can, I’ve known guys who spent most of their military time just going from one school to another. Third thing, look for all the goodies and benefits you can, a recruiter wont tell you s~~~ about them, they’re just interested in giving you the “Hollywood” version of enlisting. There are so many benefits out there (such as space available travel) that most soldiers don’t even use. I spent 20 years in and I look back at just half the crap I could have done and I kick myself every day. When you sign up your just a name and number to the military, its up to you to get as much out of it as you can.
I’m currently in the Air Force as a fresh airman and it isn’t too bad. Tech School is pretty laid back and Basic was a joke. Recently the Air Force has introduced a “capstone” program and has shaved one week off of BMT prepare airmen for Tech School, making BMT even more of a joke. Thankfully I enlisted too early to deal with that nonsense, instead getting the older 8 week program. It’s pretty much getting yelled at for 8 (7) weeks with a week of camping around week 6 (5 for the newer trainees).
If you’re intent on joining the service and have high enough ASVAB scores then I would recommend joining the Air Force and going into maintenance or cyber. Medical, personnel, and admin are pretty much full of women, so if you want to avoid female related drama I would steer clear of them at all costs. Maintenance is the quintessential career field for a man – outside of Security Forces and Special Forces – complete with the coarse language and frank comments. If you over-torque something or strip a nut you’re getting called out for it, no ifs ands or buts.
On the flip side is cyber. While there are more women in cyber, the Air Force is looking to expand the field and that means enlistment bonuses and early rank advancements. Try to take advantage of when Uncle Sam is feeling generous. Cyber – as well as maintenance – can give you skills applicable to the civilian world, so take it seriously when you do career development courses or are encouraged to get you Community College of the Air Force degree.
i’m a career marine officer. my advise to you, if you still haven’t signed anything, is to go to college on your own. when you’re 22 or 23, with a college degree, and the military is something you STILL want to do at that age, then look into it again. if you’re worried about your standard of living as an enlisted service member, the military isn’t the place for you…we hunt human beings for a living. its an utterly immoral act and it will leave a black spot on your soul your entire life. is participating in that kind of behavior something you think you could do? i only say this because i know too many people who joined and then cracked once they were confronted with the true nature of the job.
go hunting. take down a big animal…and don’t quite hit it in the heart, head, or neck. watch it die, think on it. if you still want to talk to a recruiter after that, than do so.
don’t get me wrong. this world we’re born into is utterly f~~~ed up and evil. killing is necessary part of life. joining the military means you’re willing to shoulder the moral burden of all 300 million americans in this respect for a time. its a serious decision, especially if war breaks out. definitely more important than worrying about what enlisted life is like.
all of that of course is based on my experience – 2 tours iraq, one in afghanistan, a pacific rotation, and another deployment to the gulf and flying over iraq, afghanistan, and syria…take your decision seriously and best of luck in the future.
The main reason I want to join the military is to kill radical muslims. The moral aspect of killing them doesnt even remotely bother me. They stopped being humans the moment they started raping and killing inocent people. They are a bunch of sick animals who need to die miserable deaths. I read the first book of the Quran to find out more about them. The way that they view non-muslims(infidels) is the same way I view them and the rest of the world’s religious finatics(of organised religions). They are an evil group that needs to be destroyed. Organised religion is the root of all evil.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
JD, you’ll fight whoever they tell you to. The truth is just not as simple as you currently think it is, or would like it to be. I’d be lying if I said the military doesn’t like guys with your attitude. But recruiting young guys to fight our wars is a predatory behavior on the part of our government. Most people I’ve met who end up killing are horribly conflicted by it. Not that they wouldn’t go back and do it again. In the end, its you or them. But the act of it, the evil of it is yours alone…the nation, your family and friends, they’ll all say they support you and thank you for your service. But when all is said and done you alone will bear the moral burden of your actions. Its a terrible, ugly thing. Its dirty work. Not surprising that its the ultimate male profession.
Don’t get me wrong, the military is a great opportunity. Play your cards right and you’ll have a career, a college degree, or both, paid for by the government. But I always discourage young guys from enlisting, all full of p~~~ and vinegar, thinking that somehow it will make them more of a man. I’m not trying to talk down to you, but those sorts of emotions are all testosterone and Hollywood. Those emotions are simply not in your self-interest at all.
But to answer your original question. Enlisted life is hard. Your NCO’s, SNCO’s, and Officers will keep you under tight control – they have to. A barracks full of a couple hundred 18 year old guys, away from home for the first time, with their first steady pay check, is a hilarious formula for aggressively bad behavior. The leash isn’t really loosened until after your first enlistment, if you decide to stay in. But the control is worth it. And the amount of work you will have to do, especially if you deploy to a war zone, will make your civilian life afterwards EASY. College, after dealing with a wartime deployment, is a joke.
Just try to strip away the bulls~~~ when you make the decision to sign up. You don’t need to kill someone to be a man. And if it weren’t for a very small pack of people who are richer than you could ever imagine, no one would ever travel half way across the world to kill people. Same goes for the guy who straps a suicide vest on his chest…he’s led by the same type. And that type, the ringleaders of it all, almost NEVER pay for it, on both sides of the ocean. Only the little guys die.
What did the rich people do to start all the fighting? I know what the terrorist leaders did ,but which rich people in America are you talking about? I want to know because no one ever told me about this.
I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.
there’s a lot to read about. but think about the rich people in this video. how do you think they got that way? how do you think political candidates are elected, especially at the national level? it takes money. lots and lots of money. so the people you vote for, they have to win the favor of the rich FIRST, before you ever get a chance to vote on them. they are the people who really get to decide who we fight and why. and their enemies are almost never really yours.
I got out of the Marine Corps 1 year ago if you want to be a sniper(MOS 0317) you better be a f~~~ing athlete you have to be able to swim 3 km, tread water for 45 minutes, and hike 30 km on hills with a 70 pound pack in under 12 hours in MOS school: they are trying to break you. Don’t think s~~~ gets easy after you’re done with training you get treated like a child with a paycheck. Rape prevention briefs every 2 weeks and mandatory fun days. You want every aspect of your life controlled good luck. Now for the positives brotherhood and the knowledge your friends have your back. The best training of the 4 military branches but it’s the hardest thing a kid will do. Bootcamp deprives you of sleep, food, and autonomy. you dress when you’re told, eat when you’re told, p~~~ when you’re told, and p~~~ test first day their. There is the magic unicorn called ‘the fleet’ just like the nawalt it doesn’t exist. It doesn’t get better it just becomes less apparent how bad you’re getting f~~~ed.
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