What if you simply not pay alimony?

[avillaxParticipant 280]

I think one of the biggest fears there are about marriage is divorce and having to pay alimony, my question is, what are the consequences of not paying alimony? I mean, if you have to pay alimony, as a man you’re completely f~~~ed anyways, you will never have money for yourself, will never have money to f~~~ other women, might not even have enough money to pay for medical insurance so you will experience a slow and painful death.

So wouldn’t it be better to just f~~~ it and not pay alimony? What would be the consequences?

Theoretically I personally wouldn’t pay because it would be a slap in the face, most probably the bitch would be banging other guys and not marrying in order to get my money, while me as a guy would have like always an extremely difficult time getting women’s attention specially now that I would be impoverished.

I am a Mexican citizen and like many legal things that don’t work in Mexico, alimony is one of those things that don’t I’m glad that don’t work. Alimony here is a joke unless you’re rich, no woman would pursue alimony because the court will not force you to give them much and also the system of making you comply is very light and ineffective so a women will only make the expenditure of calling a lawyer to look for alimony if you’re rich, in that case the expenditure would be worth it for her, even so, I don’t think there’s lifetime alimony here.

If I were to marry here by accident, providing I’m not rich, I would simply ignore the payment requests. I think if I were to get US citizenship I could do the same because I could simply move to Mexico and I don’t think they would chase me here just to pay some bitch in another country.

But you, as American citizens, how f~~~ed are you?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

Can’t avoid alimony in USA or Canada, if you get caught you’re in jail. :O I wouldn’t plan on it because I don’t plan on living with a woman so no worries for me.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[avillaxParticipant 280]

That’s interesting, but how can you end up in jail? I had heard that not paying alimony was not a crime, comparable to not paying a debt, it just f~~~s your credit. Please explain how it lands you in jail.

[RoyDalParticipant]

They pin “contempt of court” on you, not “debt” which is unconstitutional in the USA. No, you do not have a right to an attorney, unless you pay for one out of your own pocket, because it is a civil offense, not a criminal one.

Jail might actually be preferable to sleeping in a cardboard box under a bridge, especially in the winter.

My choice is not to get married. Let some other simp pay her alimony, child support, and mortgage.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Crazy CanuckMember 4215]

In Ontario, Canada the jails are over crowded and s~~~. It might be better off being homeless.

"If pussy was a stock it would be plummeting right now because you've flooded the market with it. You're giving it away too easy." - Dave Chapelle

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Well over here in the U.S. they’ll find a way to screw you over, with child support and alimony first step they’ll take your drivers license and rack up the debt so basically you’d never drive again legally once you fall behind or until you become current on the payments. I love driving too much so I pass on cs and alimony.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

You can always move out of country, can you?

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

It’s basically a lien on you as an individual that is not subject to bankruptcy. They will garnish your wages and take your assets. In America your basically forced into paying it. Your either homeless or in jail if you don’t pay it. I’m not sure if  leaving the county stops it. Probably depends on country. But you may not be able to come back into the U.S. “Legally” without ramifications.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[DakotaParticipant 341]

avillax wrote:

If I were to marry here by accident, providing I’m not rich, I would simply ignore the payment requests. I think if I were to get US citizenship I could do the same because I could simply move to Mexico and I don’t think they would chase me here just to pay some bitch in another country.

RW…The flaw in your logic, well… one of your many flaws, is that sure, they may not chase you back to Ol’ Mexico but what if you ever want to/need to come back to the US?  They will be here waiting for you.  They will wait forever.  And you will go to jail [see RoyDal above].  The US has more of it’s citizenry behind bars per capita than any other nation on the planet.  And there’s always room for one more.

Avoid marriage and you avoid a world of trouble.

[FermatParticipant 3478]

It amazes me how many women i have talked to who state they would never sign a pre nup because in their minds they believe its asking for a relationship to end because guys like to think ahead. At the same time they agree with the concept of alimony. I am utterly appalled by this but at the same time not surprised. Its as if they want to paralyze men from leaving the relationship in better shape than they came. Scratch that. Its not “as if”. THEY WANT TO!!! It is female nature to make a man rely on her, and the only way to make that happen is to either prevent them from thinking ahead or to make sure they suffer if they do. Pre nups in their mind or a denial of resources should the marriage relationship end and alimony is the acquisition of resources should the relationship end. The high risk of alimony is only a small reason for me to get married. Its female nature that I am most cautious about. Alimony is merely a consequence of the problem, not the cause. Even if alimony was obliterated tomorrow I still would not never ever get married because female nature will manifest itself in another form, either equally as hideous or more. I don’t hate women the same way I don’t hate snakes. I think snakes are awesome from afar the same way I appreciate women from afar, but I will stay away from deep committed relationships that will leave me vulnerable with them. The price is too great.

I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.

[Anonymous 12]

In some countries they will just take it straight from your pay.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

i quit my job to start a business just before i told my wife i want a divorce and we are separated as of today.  alimony? $1/month because i was unemployed when we split.  i do have to pay child support though.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[avillaxParticipant 280]

Wow, can you elaborate more on that technique? It seems so simple, aren’t they supposed to track you down to see what you’re up to nowadays and then suck from you? There’s another post on this forum about this guy who’s been accumulating wealth but hiding it to avoid the wife going to court to take it all.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

avillax wrote:

Wow, can you elaborate more on that technique? It seems so simple, aren’t they supposed to track you down to see what you’re up to nowadays and then suck from you? There’s another post on this forum about this guy who’s been accumulating wealth but hiding it to avoid the wife going to court to take it all.

I lived in Ontario at the time.  Divorce law is provincial in Canada so that matters.  I left my job to start a consulting business.  My ex-wife knew I was going to do this and was fine with it.  A couple weeks into it, I told my wife that we are separating as of that day.  I had no customers or revenue.  Then my ex-wife wanted me to leave the marital home.  i said nope.  She then left with the kids claiming psychological abuse and even accused me of child neglect.  I couldn’t continue the business because I had no idea how much I would have to pay my ex-wife for the divorce, no idea how much legal fees would be, depressed because I couldn’t see or contact my kids, etc.  When I spoke to my lawyer, the topic of alimony came up.  I explained what happened and that I was unemployed and SHE said “yeah alimony’s not happening”.  It has been 2 years and I only pay $1 per month.  My child support is based on the salary I make now, which is far less than what I was making before.  I have heard that a judge can force you to pay support based on the salary you were making before.  This is what you could/should be making so the judge orders you to pay based off of that.  However, that has not been the case with me so far so maybe it’s bulls~~~.  Mind you, I haven’t been in front of a judge.  It wasn’t a technique.  it just happened to work out that way.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[experiencedParticipant]

IMO it’s the same as vigilantism. the “machine” doesn’t care about the laydee. they don’t want her on their teat, so they slam her on you. If you don’t pay the alimony/’reducate her’ fund/ get her ‘relocated fund’/ ‘etc,’ then the ‘machine’ takes it as an attack on them and snap you’re in prison.

Much the same as you witness a guy with a revolver shoot six at a bank heist. he’s out of ammo. you’re carrying and he takes three, Hey you’re a threat to the machine – he must be brought to trial by paid , he must be on trial by paid……   crappy analogy but the machine only cares about the machine, IMO.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[avillaxParticipant 280]

At some point when living in the States I thought about the idea of getting American citizenship, then I started getting fines everywhere and felt the pressure of not really being free so I left never to return and now I realize I was right.

For instance, in Mexico if I marry and divorce and my ex wants alimony then she would have to hire a lawyer which would be expensive for her. Division of assets does happen as a norm but the ex never gets more than 50%, child support and alimony are very low and alimony is not for a lifetime, in fact, if awarded it is normally paid for a few years, also it is so low that women prefer not to look for it as the lawyer would be more expensive, a friend of mine divorced and his ex wanted alimony just to p~~~ him off, my friend would have been required to pay $30 per month on alimony and this is not calculated on his salary.

The Mexican government also can’t deduct directly from your paycheck. If you don’t pay and the authorities want to jail you, you can always use a legal resource called “Amparo” as long as you keep paying the lawyer the Amparo could go forever, the lawyers’ fees would be about $700 per month so you could keep this for many months and the wife would have to desist.

Also you can bribe cops that would try to arrest you, you could also bribe judges to stop the alimony, etc. Anything you do is hard to track. In other words, you’re a free man here.

 

But just to make sure, never marry!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

In many states in the US they will lock you up over child support and alimony.

Everyone should see the movie Divorce Corp.

Florida recently tried to end lifetime alimony and feminists made a big fuss about it so lifetime alimony continues.

Robin Williams owed lifetime alimony to several women.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

I dont know about all states but in the state of Connecticut 95.6% of people arrested for not paying on time are men.

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

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