What do you think about this response to a Tinder?

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

So I got a hit on Tinder from a fairly cute gal, slender, nice smile, 34.

When we “matched” I sent my standard “Free tomorrow?” message. Short, simple, to the point. She answers back that it’s short notice, has stuff to do etc, and that an introductory letter would be nice.

So I look at her profile and lo and behold she’s a single mother of two children, and lists that she has conservative values and is not interested in hookups or the party culture.

This is what I wrote back – please tell me what you think:

Sorry I don’t date women that explicitly state they’re not into hookups. It ruins the spontaneity and frankly is disrespectful of what’s important to me as a man. Nice guys like me have been getting passed over for hookups in favor of complete asshole guys all our lives and now that I have money and am about to graduate from <well known ivy league>, it’s my turn. I would never consider dating a single mom that wouldn’t consider a hookup with me.

I know we here at MGTOW think online dating is a bad idea in general, and I’m mostly inclined to agree. It’s an “old habits die hard” kinda thing because working the online “scene” has gotten me laid off and on in the past.

I’m thinking about making the above my standard response to women, especially near-wallers who explicitly write that they’re not into hookups on dating sites. I’ll report back if I get any response from her BTW (not expecting one).

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Nice guys like me have been getting passed over for hookups in favor of complete asshole guys all our lives and now that I have money and am about to graduate … it’s my turn.

This will definitely catch her attention 🙂

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Two kids??? Run, Forrest, run!!!!

[Ned TrentParticipant 4894]

If I was in your shoes I would have left out two words from your post: “sorry” & “nice” if (responding) anything, because like you said and I hold that to your credit, that you know and we know that dating is a bad idea in general and specifically so with tinder(ellas).

Just my 2 cents.

I'd rather die a natual death with a clear MGTOW conscience somewhere off the grid than one within "modern" civilisation with a big stress mark on my forehead and a couple of dozen tubes plugged into my body. Back to the plantation..? Me..? Hey, literally: I won't ever fucking kid myself...YZERLMNTSIC

[RockmaninoffParticipant 1641]

Bigge, what’s your goal here? What’s your ideal outcome with that message? I doubt it’s going to convince her of anything.

Tinder, and all online dating, is to get people meeting in real life. If she said “busy tomorrow” but didn’t suggest an alternate time, she’s just f~~~ing with you. Like every other woman on Tinder.

Tinder is the worst.

". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

Two kids??? Run, Forrest, run!!!!

Exactly dude. That’s why I wouldn’t consider anything but a hookup. Seattle is the land of single mommies, so if you want to get laid here at all, more often than not you don’t have a choice.

I’m really grateful to MGTOW for teaching me that this perspective is not an unreasonable one. If they want a shot at me, they have to give me AT LEAST the same amount of sexual consideration they were willing to give to Chad.

Thank you all for helping me see that this is not only a reasonable stance, but the very minimum I should expect. I will make exceptions for virgins – no hymen/no diamond etc.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Bigge, what’s your goal here? What’s your ideal outcome with that message? I doubt it’s going to convince her of anything.

After I read her profile, my only goal is to stand with my MGTOW pride, knowing that I’m in the right. If she were to come back and say something like “I only put that on there to keep the creeps away. I’d be into a hookup…….” than I might consider a one night stand, but I only give that about a ten percent chance or less, based on past experience.

Really my goal is only to show one wall muncher that I’m onto her s~~~ and will have no part of it.

Thanks in part to MGTOW, I have far too much self respect to spend time with any women from a place like tinder who wouldn’t have a simple hookup with me. F~~~ that noise.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

I like your response to her. I don’t know the circumstances of her children and whether they are from a failed marriage or the by-products of riding the Chad carousal but in my opinion, the whole “I don’t hook up” line is one of the oldest s~~~ tests there are.
Why do single women with children feel that they are in a position to bargain or negotiate when dating? Without the sex, what do they think they are offering a man to date her?

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

Don’t read in to their “no hookups” bulls~~~ too much. It’s a s~~~ test.

Tinder girls are in to hookups, if you have the right kind of photos – shirtless/6-pack while rockclimbing or around a few pretty chicks or whatever – plus solid game.

Do you really think some girl off Tinder is going to tell Chad “no hookups”? What she means is “I only hookup with guys that get my panties wet.”

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

Ned Trent wrote:

I would have left out two words from your post: “sorry” & “nice” if (responding) anything

Excellent advice. After re-reading it, I think you’re absolutely right about that, at least if I wanted to increase my chances of a hookup actually happening. There’s also part of me that’s thinking that it doesn’t demonstrate consideration and some degree of “niceness” which is what she likely is trying for as she approaches the wall. And that’s honest – I have always been a pretty decent, considerate, and even “nice” person at heart, but thanks to the behavior of women in general, and the things I’ve learned from MGTOW specifically, I’m not “nice” anymore when it comes to dating.

Chivalry is dead because women killed it. (as we all know)

I’m just glad because I realized I really don’t care about the outcome. It just felt really good to send that response.

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

MattNYC wrote:

Tinder girls are in to hookups, if you have the right kind of photos – shirtless/6-pack while rockclimbing or around a few pretty chicks or whatever – plus solid game.

Problem is, I’m 44 and don’t have a six pack. Not overweight, but I do have a small gut, so you know. About all I have to go on is my success, which is fairly decent.

How do I “showcase” success on Tinder w/o being vulgar?

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[BigDParticipant 3024]

You’re a nicer guy than me. I would have pointed out the fact that she is a single mom with two kids and has the audacity to say she is conservative. If she was worth more than just a f~~~, why would you she destroy her life and that of two children?

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

Oh, and please keep using Tinder. I own stock.

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

[UntamedParticipant]

Ned Trent wrote:

If I was in your shoes I would have left out two words from your post: “sorry” & “nice” if (responding) anything,

Right on, Ned!

Mr. Spock wrote:

Why do single women with children feel that they are in a position to bargain or negotiate when dating? Without the sex, what do they think they are offering a man to date her?

Good point, as always, Mr.Spock.

It’s a great response, BD. Pre-Wall message to a T~~~. Let ’em have it.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

So I look at her profile and lo and behold she’s a single mother of two children, and lists that she has conservative values and is not interested in hookups or the party culture.

Single mother of two children? Has conservative values? Not into hookups? One of these things is not like the others.

What a hypocritical c~~~. The truth is she’s “not into hookups” any more. Now that she’s had her fun and hit the wall, she needs to lock down some beta bux, thus the purported heel face turn.

Don’t let her get away with that s~~~ for a second.

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Sorry I don’t date women that explicitly state they’re not into hookups. It ruins the spontaneity and frankly is disrespectful of what’s important to me as a man. Nice guys like me have been getting passed over for hookups in favor of complete asshole guys all our lives and now that I have money and am about to graduate from <well known ivy league>, it’s my turn. I would never consider dating a single mom that wouldn’t consider a hookup with me.

The only room for improvement I see with your response is it’s a little too much about you and your wants, and not nearly enough about her and her failings. You really should have driven home the point that “single mother of two children” and “conservative values” is nothing but self serving hypocrisy. As it stands, your response will only make her think you are a “selfish creep” (because that’s how women warp reality). By making your response about her, you give her no choice but to recognize her own failure of character (because you’re rubbing her face in it).

Mr. Spock wrote:

I don’t know the circumstances of her children and whether they are from a failed marriage or the by-products of riding the Chad carousal

The difference is irrelevant.

A failed marriage is just an extended hook up. With extra cash prizes for the woman.

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Problem is, I’m 44 and don’t have a six pack. Not overweight, but I do have a small gut, so you know. About all I have to go on is my success, which is fairly decent.

So wear a suit in your pic instead of going topless.

BigD wrote:

You’re a nicer guy than me. I would have pointed out the fact that she is a single mom with two kids and has the audacity to say she is conservative. If she was worth more than just a f~~~, why would you she destroy her life and that of two children?

Exactly this.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

I know we here at MGTOW think online dating is a bad idea in general,

I just got off an article in a scientific journal about psychosis and social media. The precis is they are all nucking futz!!

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[XSDBSParticipant 3598]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

she has conservative values and is not interested in hookups or the party culture.

All bulls~~~….

She already has two kids as proof of hookups/party culture…

She’s on tinder because she doesn’t want to hook up?

Again…all bulls~~~…

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

To be fair, all women will tell you that they are not into hookups, because they don’t want you to see them as whores, however that s~~~ is a bit hard to pull off when you have two kids and have already hit the wall 4 years ago…

Women who sound too good to be true have pussies that are overly used.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Spank The Misandrists wrote:

Too be fair, all women will tell you that they are not into hookups, because they don’t want to see them as whores,

Which is Doing It Wrong.

Women try to convince men that whores are defined by having sex. This is a lie. Whores are defined by getting paid.

Women who aren’t whores have sex gratis, simply for the mutual pleasure. Women who accept free drinks, free meals, and free entertainment from men while only promising or hinting at sex very much are whores. Dishonest whores.

[Spank The MisandristsParticipant 2308]

sidecar wrote:

Which is Doing It Wrong.

Of course it’s wrong, but we can’t change how they think.

sidecar wrote:

Women try to convince men that whores are defined by having sex. This is a lie. Whores are defined by getting paid.

I do believe men pay one way or another.

sidecar wrote:

Women who aren’t whores have sex gratis, simply for the mutual pleasure.

In the real world it rarely happens, unless you’ve got what they want. That’s why rich and famous guy can have sex for free, because women instinctively get attracted by his wealth and fame, even they know they can’t get it.

sidecar wrote:

Women who accept free drinks, free meals, and free entertainment form men while only promising or hinting at sex very much are whores. Dishonest whores.

Oh ye, 100% agree

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