What Do Women Have to Offer?

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

Anonymous wrote:

Nothing.

For thousands of years women were burdens that their fathers would pay to get rid of as young virgins.

Then in the past 50, society claimed that men were worthless and that the divine female post-wall and c~~~ carousel would grace the worthless male with her presence.

Bulls~~~ that I’m not buying and accepting.

I will never accept a female as equal to me, let alone superior to me, because life has shown me they are always inferior and need massive government subsidies and lowered standards to barely “compete” with men with a completely rigged playing field. Take away all of that, and you will see exactly why for thousands of years women were desperate to get married or had to resort to prostitution to survive.

But they are equal now, and they spit in the face of male self sacrifice to take them on as burdens. So now we as men are completely free. I don’t want to thank feminism, but this is indeed a benefit to men that we should all take since it’s there for us. Don’t marry, don’t cohabit, don’t give any of your resources to a woman. If you choose to, give them the gift of your penis out of your sheer generosity, but nothing more. And understand that you are giving them a gift, even for that, a man doesn’t really need it, but a woman does.

This is the best advice here. They are not our equivalent, they are burdens, and your penis is a gift. DO NOT SQUANDER YOUR GIFT.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Masculine_Man wrote:

This is the best advice here. They are not our equivalent, they are burdens, and your penis is a gift. DO NOT SQUANDER YOUR GIFT.

Now I know what to get everyone for Christmas!

[RennieParticipant]

Women, what they good for?

Absolutely nothin!

[RennieParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Nothing. Not a damned thing.

Nothin!

Nothing but *pfft tongue noise*.

Jeremiah Johnson wrote:

Before and after a woman is let into your life…..

Anonymous wrote:

Most men could actually marry a young virgin who would serve as his partner.

Would’ve liked that myself, if only for the assurance that she was 100% mine. Anything less is unacceptable to me.

SunStorm wrote:

To be honest I love cats too….

I say leave the cats out of it.

They’re innocent kitties caught in a gender war crossfire.

Cats are cats. Animals who can’t act outside their programming and can’t be expected to know any better. Women are capable of transcending their programming, but most of them are too lazy and unmotivated to do it.

[AFTParticipant 2722]

What makes a good woman?

Whatever the answer to that question is, becomes irrelevant when considering the gynocentric laws and the consequences of divorce / seperation.

A “good woman” whatever that is can change and the full burden of the consequences will be born by you.

It is not women, that are the greater problem but society and the laws.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[TwistParticipant]

AFT wrote:

becomes irrelevant when considering the gynocentric laws and the consequences of divorce / seperation.

Exactly! There are lots of good guns, but I don’t want any of them pointed at my head.

Because – s~~~ happens.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Eric Lauder wrote:

When you say that old times were better for men you’re basically making the case for feminists and falling in the trap of their narrative.

Yup. I was talking to a moron fairly recently who was on a Trump rant about how he apparently hates women and women should have equal rights, not forced to stay home and cook for their husband. I just laughed and said yeah, because men had it so great back then, they got sent off to get butchered in WW2 and worked long shifts in coal mines and s~~~ty factories when they came home…those poor oppressed house wives who got to stay home and spend time with their kids while they were growing up. There wasn’t even a reply…just a quick shift to a different subject.

Its just funny how many women I knew in my college years who thought being a stay at home mom was the equivalent of being an oppressed sex slave, but fast forward to when they are early 30s post wall and most of them would love to leave their s~~~ty dead end jobs and be a stay at home mom if they could find a husband who brought home enough bacon. Unfortunately for them a lot of guys are realizing a stay at home mom is an anchor in life these days, and the high earning guys who do want a stay at home mom are looking at younger women, not post wallers.

I really don’t see women as offering me anything but pussy…but its not worth the costs, stress, and drama that come along with it. I don’t want kids because our laws are too f~~~ed if your a man, so I don’t need one for reproduction, and if I want some companionship I have plenty of friends for that, why do I want one woman who is going to eventually try to drive a wedge between me and my other social outlets? It just gets even worse when you take a woman’s past into account. If they are dragging with them a mountain of debt and a beat up pussy from taking miles of c~~~ from so many guys they’d be ashamed to ever give an honest number…what do I think they are going to continue to do in the future? Suck at finances and continue to chase disgusting amounts of c~~~. Why do I want them to wreck my finances when I’m obviously not going to be their first or last c~~~…its just a lose, lose, lose to get wrapped up with your typical American woman who decides its time for her to settle down.

[Artboy99Participant 369]

Eric Lauder wrote:

Sex? Fleshlight+porn can give you an unlimited amount of sexual pleasure, as you like. A wife is going to reject you at least 1-in-3 days. At least. More likely 1-in-2. Or even 2-in-3. There are married men having sex once a week. But they have to work all the days, not once a week.

In my last relations~~~ I went from everyday at first, to 1 time a week for a brief while to ONCE a year to never again over a 7 year time frame. The last 2 years were NEVER. The previous 2 years were once a year. I was reduced to fleshlight+porn and I was ashamed to have to do so, but I was in love and would never cheat on her, I never have cheated and never will.
What I wanted from the person who was my “lover” was a woman who was interested in being with me and exploring sex between us. The problem is women today use sex as a tool to get what they want. Once they have whatever it is they want they no longer need to use the tool, until whatever they are wanting is no longer working for them.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Artboy99 wrote:

The problem is women today use sex as a tool to get what they want. Once they have whatever it is they want they no longer need to use the tool, until whatever they are wanting is no longer working for them.

After they’ve taken a dozen or more c~~~s already they are just a prostitute who gets paid whether she shows up to work or not. Sad thing is I used to think prostitution was disgusting, but I’ve since realized the average woman is a whore and a deceptive liar…at least a prostitute is just a whore.

[MichaelSpectator 544]

Sigh. Look dude…

Women today are just a product of the system we have in place today.

I feel like allot of these threads keep falling into the “blame women” category. Women are _____ . Women are _____. Etc.Etc.

It’s important to understand the disease that’s causing these symptoms. Women are incentivized to act the way they do. The only way to put them back in their natural place (which they are begging to go back to no matter what they say i.e naked femi-nazi’s running into crowds of Muslim fake refugees in Europe) is to remove the underlying incentives which are the “causes” of the disease.

1) Want a reasonable supportive, compliant wife? Remove all incentives to divorce.
2) Want your kids to have a traditional family? Remove all incentives to divorce.
3) Want to remove a women’s thirst for divorce drama? Make it easy, boring, and shameful.
4) Want to prevent single motherhood? Bring back/Socially engineer social shaming techniques.

This is all common sense. I just kinda get annoyed when I see guys keep bitching about the symptoms and not the cure. I know it’s really hard because the symptoms are right there in your face 24/7. But unless things change fundamentally, nothing will. Trump could be a start but unless he turns out to be ultra radical in a way that effects change at the local level (by destroying the divorce industry, cutting CPS budget, enhancing constitutional rights at the local level etc): I don’t see him having any overall effect on the direction of U.S. culture in mere 4 years.

Too much damage has been done and the forces of evil too entrenched.If you remove the forces of evil that caused the situation women women today – the problems will vanish.

Women are demanding, entitled, untrustworthy, disloyal, carousel riding, lily pad hopping whores, because Western society has allowed and incentivized it.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

Michael wrote:

I just kinda get annoyed when I see guys keep bitching about the symptoms and not the cure.

Alright then, so, what’s the cure? How are you going to make that happen? How exactly are any of us going to change it fundamentally?

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

I guess all of us know the cure but have stopped caring.

MGTOW contains the word “going” meaning “leaving” and that’s because we know the cure and that this cure is far from ever being accepted. The “patient” doesn’t want that “cure”.

We are here to warn young men about the predator that will eat them alive when they go into a marriage contract with them.

Or the danger of giving any woman any power over you.

No matter what, I have seen the real violent nature women have underneath their cover of beauty.

And the web of social lies that shifts all bad traits of mankind in the direction of men.

In the 1970’s women were sometimes more violent then they are now. Where they used to slam children in their faces, they now only bitch at twice the rate and volume. Because they are afraid of getting prosecuted and bitching is still “free”.

I invite everyone to read my personal stories:

Gargamel’s 7-part MGTOW story introduction – as a work in progress

The Women That Kill, Abuse And Torture – And How They Abuse Power

I’ve been a victim of children’s home mental and physical abuse and I have stopped caring about a cure.

A predator is a predator.

And now they start to look like one:

About RBF “Resting Bitch Face” – the constantly angry and bitchy face women have

And how can you cure something that has already been engraved in the DNA of these creatures?

No one can turn back the clock. The culture will become extinct due to the lack of reproduction and getting rid of these un-adaptable predators will be accomplished “nature’s way”.

We can do nothing about that. Same as BPD and NPD is considered incurable in the professional circles of psychiatry.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Michael wrote:

This is all common sense. I just kinda get annoyed when I see guys keep bitching about the symptoms and not the cure.

This entire website is dedicated to the cure. MGTOW is the cure.

[Anonymous 11]

Gargamel wrote:

BPD and NPD is considered incurable in the professional circles of psychiatry.

I’m currently dealing with an asshole NPD brother-in-law that my stupid sister married. Personally, I’ve found BPDs easier to handle and manipulate. Both are very bad though.

@eric: The benefit of having a low c~~~ count female partner(Good luck finding one!!) is that she’s not jaded out due to overexposure to c~~~s. That being said, I think we are too far gone as a society and will never trust any woman again. One really never knows what’s really going on in the hamster.

My Chad friends tell me cherry popping is really not all that just like you said. Chads harvest most cherries around my neck of the woods these days, and since I came of age back in the 80s. Dirty work it is so I guess Chads are doing everyone a favor.

Sandals wrote:

How exactly are any of us going to change it fundamentally?

By walking away from the game, you will no longer care or be affected. Let the blue pillers deal with their bulls~~~. Women are what they are and cannot be changed. Today’s women are never held accountable and are heavily coddled making them worse. We all know what happens to children that get that treatment. Women are basically childlike and should be treated as such.

[TwistParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I’m currently dealing with an asshole NPD brother-in-law that my stupid sister married. Personally, I’ve found BPDs easier to handle and manipulate. Both are very bad though.

My experience is that high-functioning BPDs share many of the traits of a narcissist. If you found anything “easier” about handling a BPD, you are a better man than me. I think both disorders are about the same as juggling live hand grenades.

Regardless of their ranking, I do agree they are not curable in any significant sense. They are not mood disorders that can be Rx-ed into submission, they reflect the core personality of their host.

BPD treatment to me is similar to dealing with gynocentric feminism. Run away. Far.

[Anonymous 11]

You’re right Twist BPDs and NPDs share so much in common. Each are basically incurable.

I’m stealthily building my narc cage for him. At a place and time of my choosing, I will open the trap door, and in he slides. He will go apoplectic by not getting his way, but I don’t care. I look after my own interests first.

He usually gets his way by bullying people, severe shaming(On a MGHOW, yeah right!), and using ad hominem attacks. I’m feigning extra stupid to make him underestimate me which is fairly easy to do with an NPD since they are grandiose.

I plan on going total no contact with him.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Interesting article
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/dec/05/ive-lost-all-interest-in-sex
Basically the mangina have been psychologically abused by a woman and he’s now still shocked that he have problems having sex with his new woman.
Being a mangina he’s just only afraid that she could miss sex and leave him…

This comment, the most voted, pretty much sums my view about long-term relationships, women sex drive and marriage:

I would have an honest talk with your partner if I were you, you may find out that it would not actually be a showstopper for her to not have sex.
Alternatively you could always try marrying her, in which case her sexual demands on you will probably soon diminish to a level that you can live with.

Basically the commenter said that it’s quite likely that the magina’s partner don’t care so much about sex, and however if he’ll marry her then she’ll become uninterested towards sex like he already is.

😀

This is the most voted comment: it seems to me that many men are waking up about reality.

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