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Prefer Peace to Piece 3 years, 7 months ago.
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Think of it like this. Girls would only marry their equals or they would only marry guys of a higher quality than they are. Meanwhile, guys would actually be more known to marrying down. As long as the girl is not too fat and is a bit pretty, she can actually have a chance to date guys that make more money than she does. Guys actually get a high in wanting to take care of the girl they are with through hard work and resources, because that is part of their biology. We even have a names for those sort of guys, “manginas” or “beta males”.
This leads to another point. Obviously, after you get married to the woman, you will have children with the woman, because that is what is expected of you both. Once she pops out children, who is the one that has to work to provide for the family while the other one is using today’s conveniences to make child raising easier? The male is expected to be the one to provide for the family while the children are being raised by the wife. If the man is the one raising the children while the woman works, the man is not even much of a man at all to society(society thinks this, not me), which would then lead to a lot of people judging this man for not wearing the “pants” in the relationship, because that is the way that society would see it. So in the end, the guy better like his job, because his wife sure as well is going to have an easy time taking care of babies that probably sleep most of the day anyways. So if the guy doesn’t like his job, this is really a bad deal for this reason as well.
Another thing to point out. Just because a marriage is a contract between a man and a woman, it doesn’t mean that the woman doesn’t have the right to not be faithful to the contract in the long run and then divorce rape the guy with the help of divorce laws that usually lean towards helping out the females usually. All it can take is that one day she feels that she wants some more adventure in her life by meeting new guys, and just like that, she can break the contract. Not only can she break the contract because she feels like it, you are even taking a chance that she might just divorce rape you too and get as much as she can from you. She might even hold her children hostage as a weapon. Like why would you even leave your life up to chance, even if you think you are a good judge of character in choosing your spouse? 50% of marriages end in divorce, so it is basically a coin flip situation. Also, women initiates about 70% of the divorces, so think about that for a second.
So there you have it, three big reasons on why marriage is a bad deal for males usually, so why would you agree to a bad deal like that, especially when there is no guarantees?
"Question everything" - Albert Einstein
Meanwhile, guys would actually be more known to marrying down.
Then there’s the fact that hypergamy is relative and shifting. When a man marries down (or even dates down), he lifts her up to his own level (at least as far as she believes). She will, of course, not recognize this, much less appreciate it. So now that she’s at whatever level he raised her to, he’s seen as an equal, not as a superior, so she casts her roving eye about for even higher level men, never appreciating the man she already has.
This is why people who think they can avoid hypergamy by importing brides from the third world or wherever are only fooling themselves. As soon as their mail order bride hits the beach she will stop being a third worlder and become just another entitled western ball and chain woman.
So while you’re only dating her, or being friends with benefits or whatever, you can only keep a limit on her variable hypergamy by being able to bail out at any time. As soon as you f~~~ up and marry her or impregnate her or move in with her or otherwise let her think she has you trapped, look out. Your high ground advantage vanishes and you’re f~~~ed.
No marriage. No procreation. No cohabitation.
These three simple rules keep you from being screwed by the courts, but they also vastly improve whatever relationships you might have with women regardless.

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If you’re looking for a good deal, stay clear of women.
If you’re looking for loyalty, buy a dog.Behind every miserable man there is a very happy woman.
I’ve tried to look at hypergamy from a woman’s perspective in an attempt to better understand how a woman can marry up, yet have no appreciation for the benefits marrying up gets her. I’m convinced it’s a combination of three factors in varying degrees.
1 – They believe that their presence adds value. There looks, motherly nature, companionship…their female nature. While I do believe there is some truth to this, it is totally negated by the fact that men provide their masculine nature as a counterpart. As well, men are capable of doing without feminine needs, or learned how to provide those needs in other ways. But the lie of female value is easy to believe.
2 – The believe in a patriarchy that somehow artificially lowers there value. So a teacher would believe that she is vastly underpaid because the leaders favor men, thus it is not her fault that she does not earn the lifestyle she believes she deserves. It is her husband and government’s responsibility to provide reparations for this injustice.
3 – The exact opposite of point 2. Men are built to be providers and it is their duty to man-up and provide for women. They are more capable of providing and thus they should. Men and woman should not be judged equally in this regarding.
Of course, women will jump between the 3 reasons as it suits them, or to fit their mood, with no concern for the inherent contradictions. The end result though is that a man’s earnings and the lifestyle he provides to her don’t get factored into the equation when evaluating his worth, because it’s not really something she doesn’t already deserve or earned in her mind. The money he earned is no differently then if she earned the money herself!
Ok. Then do it.
This seems to fit. It’s an oldie but goody.
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
Dude that’s God damn depressing! Look…. be a nice guy, but bang the bitches. That’s all they are good for. They will try to drag you down, boss you around ETC.
BE THE BOSS. Don’t ever take s~~~ from a woman. Not even your own f~~~ing mother. You do what YOU want to do…. and respect your friends… but don’t cater to bitches.
BRO’S BEFORE HOES.
The big problem is that women always want more more more. They have a list of all the qualities they want a man to have, and then they get that man. Once they have him, a week passes and they are no longer happy, they want more. And we’re supposed to believe that 40 year marriage is even possible? No way. Women always think another better man will come along. Until she hits the wall and realizes that there will be no more men coming along. By then, she’ll have ruined plenty of lives and have a nice collection of cats.
Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.
It often doesn’t matter if a woman is involved or married. If a guy crosses her path whom she perceives to be wealthy, she will often make an effort to snare him.
Will she be faithful? Well, she may keep you around as a plan B, but ladies do have a tendency to always want more.
Your position is secure only until someone with more money comes along.
The problem is that there are always people around who have more money.I have a few friends who are well off, and they are always bagging ladies who are looking to better deal their man. It’s disgusting to watch. Female hypergamy. What do ladies want? More.
You’re talking about marriage vs. a relationship. The difference is a contract. I’ve been in the business world for about 30 years and I’ve read hundreds of contracts. The marriage contract is the only one I’ve EVER seen where someone can break the contract and get paid by the person who didn’t back out.
I know we bang on marriage contracts hard on this website, but really think about it for a minute. Any business contract has a contingency for what happens if one side changes their mind. And it does happen. But if you and I enter a contract and I want out, it is because I have a better deal somewhere else that is worth more than the penalty I will have to pay to you. And at that point, you can’t really be p~~~ed because you negotiated the buy-out clause. And you will get paid if I leave.
But only in a marriage contract can someone back out of the contract and the person that was honoring the contract has to pay the person that backs out! That’s f~~~ing stupid, except that it is the way a marriage contract works. Sign at your own peril.
And I was stupid enough to sign one of those once. ONCE. So, believe me I know how they work.
And women wonder where all the good men are.
Order the good wine
Women are basically now imitating our own governments. Give me more, more, more!
Great point TaxGuy. You’re correct.
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