went full monk because outside forces make desired relationship impossible

[AsceticmonkParticipant 856]

not like this hasn’t been explained before, but just sharing.

this is one of the best ways i can explain my life choices, and my interest in mgtow, without saying negative things about people (or at least trying to not be negative).

long story short, and has been explained before in the manosphere, and proven, and footnoted, and article and video linked for strengthening of this argument, +10,000 times, is that many of us men would have relationships and marriage with women, but some of us have went full monk because of a short list of things that make it not worth it. sample list:

-oppressive government/violent unjust police force/unjust laws
-women’s behavior
-monetary cost of relationship and children
-lack of benefits and lack of quality of those benefits of relationship
-divorce court/child support/sexless marriage/jail/risk of suicide
-estrangement of family and/or friends after said divorce or separation

i have to stop myself because i could keep going with this list. the reason for me posting this, is i happen to live in an area of the country where there are TONS of hot 20-something year old women walking around.

but its like my penis has just shut off.

…i think my penis is dead.

and i wouldn’t have it any other way!

because monasticism/singleness/bachelorhood/whatever you want to call it, is making me avoid TONS of problems and threats and obstacles in my life. it is only enhancing my relationship with God and Christianity, which is my personal life choice as a decidedly single man.

it is only enhancing my quality of life, giving me abundant time freedom, control over my life choices and hobbies, and often when i wake in the morning, i hear the beautiful sound of TRANQUIL SILENCE…

but it still boggles my mind, because i literally DON’T REACT physically or psychologically anymore to these hot women, because i know how much of a train wreck it could become.

example of desired relationship: head of houshold, wife is helpmeet, wife does not frivorce, wife is homemaker and child rearer, wife and children in submission to my authority, raise God-fearing Christian family, no threats of false allegations, no unwarrented government intrusion or violence, no rebellion, no feministing, no nonsense, no sexless marriage, reasonable give and take, mutual accountability, affection, co-operation, and God-given marital and family purpose.

but we know we can’t reliably have that. not probably of course, such or even close to it is near impossible or very rare these days

and of course we literally have no reliable recourse. what boggles my mind even more is that the minority of us men have come to the conclusion that the parameters of heterosexual relationship are SO FAR out of bounds.

i would think that more guys would be getting this. NOPE. they are still in the mental fog of the sex drive, or blue pill brainwashed.

the sex drive is one of the greatest threats to the potential of a man. kill the sex drive with fasting, chosen disaffection from physical intimacy, exercise, prayer, refocusing of life goals, whatever it takes, and a man obtains one of the key ingredients to realizing his potential.

i know basically none of this is new, but i thought i would share. being a Christian monk without a monastery, in wacko 21st century America is working out. REAL NICE.

Thank God, and God bless you guys.

[bladeParticipant]

I am proud of been monk.i find chicks try to gravatate more to me now than ever.It is like a challenge to get my c~~~ and still got some chicks wanting to f~~~ me from years ago.I find it hard to wank even.my dick has retired and so have i.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[experiencedParticipant]

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UXbSCLMY5X4/T5p-iJU-VZI/AAAAAAAACGI/FyRe1az-AVs/s1600/Maslowneeds.jpg

Wise men know that todayz laydeez will destroy men’s physiological and social requirements, so it would be insane to attempt to go higher [Social], on Maslov’s Hierarchy Of Needs.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2097]

It’s understandable but I’m still not there yet. Maybe in 20 years time. Monk is an option, so is minimizing the importance of the women you deal with. Marriage is a no go.

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[RedDawnParticipant 1391]

That’s great you’ve found an authentic way of life that works for you! It’s great to have loads of time on your hands that you can focus on what you want to do. I love going for walks or a run in the local nature reserve by myself. It’s very liberating.

Courage is the key to life itself - Morgan Freeman

[WallyParticipant]

I applaud you choice, I still have a sex drive but have concluded it’s not worth it and it’s been many years since my last. When considering the risks of STDs, pregnancy, false rape allegations, and losing your soul and money why do it. Then again prostitution is available, but I don’t want to spend the money.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[Anonymous 54]

All my life Ive wished I could be free from the desire.
One of the joys of getting older. But its not physical as much as my awaerness of what they are.Undesireable.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Choosing celibacy is arguably easier than being an in-cel, but you can count on being tempted and I admire your resolve.

Since your long game is to maintain this way of life, I’d like to suggest reframing the way that you view your reasons.

Asceticmonk wrote:

-oppressive government/violent unjust police force/unjust laws
-women’s behavior
-monetary cost of relationship and children
-lack of benefits and lack of quality of those benefits of relationship
-divorce court/child support/sexless marriage/jail/risk of suicide
-estrangement of family and/or friends after said divorce or separation

Thank God, and God bless you guys.

Instead of “oppressive government/violent unjust police force/unjust laws”–I choose to engage in only positive interactions with Government representatives and minimize those interactions.

Women’s behavior–I choose to have a stress free and quiet environment that is a place of solitude.

monetary cost of relationship and children–I choose to retain full control of my finances to never be a burden on family, friends, or the social systems in place… and so on.

Many people who focus on negatives become susceptible to depression or loneliness. I like your ideas of why and how to continue, but for anybody else reading this context could change from a life of loss and sacrifice to a choice that provides abundance to a man who makes the same choice.

Take the advice for what you find it to be worth.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[Anonymous 1]

Asceticmonk wrote:

it is only enhancing my relationship with God and Christianity

You are exchanging pussy for faith, I had a time in my life(after the loss of my father) when I fell into that trap myself(not with your same religion). But I like to be realist and logical, and your christianity is a man’s made up story.

Anyway you are free to live and believe in what you want, and if religion is what saves you, keep going your own way.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

If you can, get ahold of material written by other men who lived as monks in the past and about them. I am seeking out such myself. I find going ghosting makes much more of a Pogo “I’ve seen the enemy and the enemy is us.” You inner temptations will throw you off in the place of where social bs normally us found.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[TuneoutParticipant]

For me I find the companionship of a fine escort once or twice a year quite satisfying and leaves me with no desire to pursue any other type of relationship.

Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

[AmongstMenParticipant 129]

I notice pre-redpill that I was much more addicted to sexual thoughts, fantasies and porn. Endless masturbation and constant wandering thoughts every time I’d see a random girl I’d find semi-attractive. Post-redpill my temperance developed through the new perceptions honed through the new lens of the reality of the redpill. My masturbation and porn habits started slowing down in frequency month by month. Once a week/every 2 weeks and sometimes 3-4. I only do it when I’m feeling mad tension to release. Purely biological, nothing emotional anymore at this point.

Fasting does help. Read your previous post on it and actually implemented intermittent fasting for a week and it had great effects. Have to get back on it again.

[JimBoLeaParticipant 1891]

TWENTY NINE YEARS OF NEAR ABSTINENCE . MY 52 YEAR OLD JURNEY OF WANTING TO BE , TO DO SOMETHING ,HAS LEAD ME WHERE I AM TODAY, ENJOYING MY LIFE . GETTING OVER THE “MASTURBATION IS JUST BELITTLING WOMAN AND MAKING GOD MAD” PHASE OF MY LIFE, HE MADE ME THIS WAY. I DON’T MIND F~~~ MYSELF LIKE I USE TO . WE REALLY HAVE A WONDERFULL GOD THAT CARES FOR US. AND GIVES US SUCH MATERIAL TO FRAP OFF TO AND THINK NOTHING MORE OF IT THAN A BIOLOGICAL RELEASE.
THE INTANGLMENT OF EMOTIONS WHEN YOUR WITH A FEMALE IS NOT BEING HAPPY. IT’S A FORM OF TORCHER .
GOD BLESS YOU TOO

LILITH IS THE HEAD SUCCUBUS AND SHE LIVES ON THE DARK SIDE OF THE MOON

[KeymasterKeymaster]

I don’t even think about it because women are generally VERY lazy. and if a man doesn’t a actively pursue her, show interest or make a move, nothing is going to happen.

A few days ago, I actually watched 2 women watching a really buff athletic guy working out on his own. He was skipping rope and was built like a brick s~~~ house – just minding his own business working up a sweat.

The women were drooling and would have TOTALLY gone to bed with him if he asked them. Maybe even both at the same time! But nothing happened because he did nothing to pursue it. He was concentrated. Busy. Focussed on something that was more rewarding.

…. and then he just kept on.

Women don’t really do anything to make relationship, interactions, sex, dating or anything happen anyway. They just sit there like a lump and and want to be pursued.

There is no need for any guy to “go monk”. You just need to do something else.
He went his own way, and so did I.

Women are like a knife-sharpening tool. As long as you do all the work and keep pumping the pedal you get action, and may even see some sparks(!!), but take your foot off the pedal and nothing happens. The “relationship” between the blade and the wheel only exists if you make it happen.

Nothing compelling about it.

What happens when a dog that chases cars actually catches up with one? It completely loses interest and wonders why it even bothered in the first place.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 1]

AmongstMen wrote:

I notice pre-redpill that I was much more addicted to sexual thoughts, fantasies and porn. Endless masturbation and constant wandering thoughts every time I’d see a random girl I’d find semi-attractive. Post-redpill my temperance developed through the new perceptions honed through the new lens of the reality of the redpill. My masturbation and porn habits started slowing down in frequency month by month. Once a week/every 2 weeks and sometimes 3-4. I only do it when I’m feeling mad tension to release. Purely biological, nothing emotional anymore at this point.

Fasting does help. Read your previous post on it and actually implemented intermittent fasting for a week and it had great effects. Have to get back on it again.

Hey man, how many hours are your fasting sessions?

[Anonymous 1]

Keymaster wrote:

Women are like a knife-sharpening tool. As long as you do all the work and keep pumping the pedal you get action, and may even see some sparks(!!), but take your foot off the pedal and nothing happens. The “relationship” between the blade and the wheel only exists if you make it happen.

That should be into the dictionary as a “woman” explanation! 10+

[AmongstMenParticipant 129]

Anonymous wrote:

AmongstMen wrote:

I notice pre-redpill that I was much more addicted to sexual thoughts, fantasies and porn. Endless masturbation and constant wandering thoughts every time I’d see a random girl I’d find semi-attractive. Post-redpill my temperance developed through the new perceptions honed through the new lens of the reality of the redpill. My masturbation and porn habits started slowing down in frequency month by month. Once a week/every 2 weeks and sometimes 3-4. I only do it when I’m feeling mad tension to release. Purely biological, nothing emotional anymore at this point.

Fasting does help. Read your previous post on it and actually implemented intermittent fasting for a week and it had great effects. Have to get back on it again.

Hey man, how many hours are your fasting sessions?

At the very least for me, 12 hours. At the very most, 18. Sometimes the full 24 hour if I’m not working that day and I’m fully committed to just that. Anywhere in between 12 and 18 is a reasonable sweet spot for people who have work – life balance (which is most, if not nearly all people).

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I’ve abstained for 23 years—after the first couple of years its easy.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Asceticmonk wrote:

-oppressive government/violent unjust police force/unjust laws
-women’s behavior
-monetary cost of relationship and children
-lack of benefits and lack of quality of those benefits of relationship
-divorce court/child support/sexless marriage/jail/risk of suicide
-estrangement of family and/or friends after said divorce or separation

It’s a good list but it leaves out the other side of the coin. Not all reasons for going monk are due to negative outside influence. So here are a few more positive inside influence.

– I like my life uncomplicated
– I see life more clearly when I resist influence
– I enjoy self development
– I focus more on my needs
– I am rewarded by a low maintenance life
– I have more time for me
– I have more money for me
– I truly choose my own destiny

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

FrostByte’s list hits the nail on the head! 100% brother!

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