Well well well…RoK gets blue b~~~~…

[Anonymous 0]

ValleyFever101 wrote:

Help me out, guys. Is there anything about this comment which was worthy of banning? Is this “Return of Kings” site nothing but a bunch of cowards afraid of even the slightest criticism?

Sometimes I think the PUA guys spend too much time around women. The PUA guys are all about drama. They get p~~~ed when someone tells them, “Hey, calm down. Be reasonable.” For them, life is a big soap opera, with them playing the diva role.

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

ValleyFever101 wrote:

This is the comment that got me banned from Return of Kings:

I’m relatively new to MGTOW myself, although in reading the various articles/blogs, both pro and con, I’m somewhat astounded that much of the rhetoric makes me feel like I’ve gone back to junior high. Such tirades seem to invariably degenerate to excessive use of teenage locker room vernacular, making the critics of MGTOW lose credibility.

Help me out, guys. Is there anything about this comment which was worthy of banning?

Not remotely.

Is this “Return of Kings” site nothing but a bunch of cowards afraid of even the slightest criticism?

If they banned you for that then quite possibly.  Which is ironic given that the article says men shouldn’t be afraid of the truth.

I made a more harsh comment and haven’t been banned AFAIK, I used my regular disqus account, can they ban that from ROK?

[UnbelievableyetnotParticipant 512]

They sound like Manhood Academy.

5. Stop caring if you get laid or not.

Seriously, just stop caring. Several years back there was an attractive half-Asian girl who would come into the coffeehouse. Every guy in the place was trying to get her into bed.

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n the past few months, Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW) has completed its devolution from a sensible philosophy of masculinity into a cult for lonely virgins.

Both from ROKs. Complete contradiction.

[failure2sendParticipant 5]

still worships pussy

This. Exactly. In an ideal world, relationships would be equal – both parties would be willing commit and contribute, two people coming together to create something greater then the individual parts of a person – but in reality, modern dating/marriages have become a game of who can screw the other person over first, of who can get the most from the other person without breaking the law (rape, consent, etc) or taking advantage of legal constraints (alimony, child support, etc). Currently, these situations greatly favor women, and thus MGTOW. RP and BP men alike worship the almighty pussy, they just have different methods to go about trying to get it – and both of these methods involve a great deal of dishonesty, bulls~~~, and manipulation…and this is exactly how woman act…which mean that RP/BP “men” such as this are the product of that which they worship: pussies.

[ValleyFever101Participant 84]

Lucas Buck wrote:

I made a more harsh comment and haven’t been banned AFAIK, I used my regular disqus account, can they ban that from ROK?

 

I used my disqus account as well, and when I attempted to post, it said that I was blocked by Return of Kings.  I can still post to other sites with the same account, but ROK blocked me.

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

I see.  That is pathetic then!

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

I love PUA, they really make me crack a smile every time. Being blessed with a low sex drive is amusing when it comes to watching people obsessing over intercourse, I can get laid once per year and be happy, twice and feel that I had my quota, much more often than that and I tend to get bored which is another issue that actually caused problems in previous relationships; women can complain about mens sexuality, but when they meet someone less interested they get angry!? I mean WTF? And PUAs remind me alot of women in that aspect: they simply cannot grasp the fact that what their world revolve around is another mans occasional pleasure.

In my view, I’d say what I personally miss is the theoretical concept of intimacy: being close to someone sharing a sense of common security. But that is of course another unicorn, so as a full grown person it’s no point in persueing that which have never existed.

[felixParticipant 406]

What is it with these people?  I decide out of self-preservation that I am not going to allow any woman to get her name on my financial assets and that suddenly makes me a “virgin, gay, unmanly, loser”?   This is their sales pitch?  LOL

more throttle ..... less brakes.....

[The ApprenticeParticipant 59]

ValleyFever101 wrote:

This is the comment that got me banned from Return of Kings:

I’m relatively new to MGTOW myself, although in reading the various articles/blogs, both pro and con, I’m somewhat astounded that much of the rhetoric makes me feel like I’ve gone back to junior high. Such tirades seem to invariably degenerate to excessive use of teenage locker room vernacular, making the critics of MGTOW lose credibility.

Help me out, guys. Is there anything about this comment which was worthy of banning? Is this “Return of Kings” site nothing but a bunch of cowards afraid of even the slightest criticism?

I completely agree with your comment and I was about to post something similar to that. Their shaming tactics are like the typical high school bully who is just vomiting verbal diarrhea.  “Oh your just a virgin loser!” “NERD!” “GEEK!”

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

failure2send wrote:

still worships pussy

This. Exactly. In an ideal world, relationships would be equal – both parties would be willing commit and contribute, two people coming together to create something greater then the individual parts of a person – but in reality, modern dating/marriages have become a game of who can screw the other person over first, of who can get the most from the other person without breaking the law (rape, consent, etc) or taking advantage of legal constraints (alimony, child support, etc). Currently, these situations greatly favor women, and thus MGTOW. RP and BP men alike worship the almighty pussy, they just have different methods to go about trying to get it – and both of these methods involve a great deal of dishonesty, bulls~~~, and manipulation…and this is exactly how woman act…which mean that RP/BP “men” such as this are the product of that which they worship: pussies.

Red pill men don’t worship the pussy, at least I don’t.

[ValleyFever101Participant 84]

The Apprentice wrote:

I completely agree with your comment and I was about to post something similar to that. Their shaming tactics are like the typical high school bully who is just vomiting verbal diarrhea. “Oh your just a virgin loser!” “NERD!” “GEEK!”

Actually, what it reminds me of is something even earlier than high school.  I recall one day eating lunch at elementary school, maybe 4th or 5th grade.  I was just sitting there quietly enjoying my Snack Pack Chocolate Pudding cup, when the kid next to me (who was more of a “nemesis” than an actual bully, since I could have beaten the crap out of him) started saying “Ewww, you’re eating diarrhea!”  I replied that “No, this is chocolate pudding.”  He then continued to contradict me and insisted that it was “diarrhea.”  I even showed him the label that clearly said “chocolate pudding,” at which point he modified his position and stated that “it was chocolate pudding” before I touched it.  He was making the argument that somehow my touch can magically transmute chocolate pudding into diarrhea.

Of course, the whole idea of having such an argument over something so stupid is probably one of the more absurd situations one can involve oneself in.   Trying to use logic doesn’t help much either.

But that’s also a good way of evaluating posts and articles by bloggers such as the one being addressed in this thread.  Once you filter out the name-calling, the invective, and whatever “personal feelings” the writer might have, in the end, if all they’re saying is that chocolate pudding is diarrhea, then that’s how it should be taken.

 

 

[davParticipant 422]

Picking up isn’t the hard part. Getting rid of them when they turn toxic on you is the hard part.

[RoyDalParticipant]

dav wrote:

Picking up isn’t the hard part. Getting rid of them when they turn toxic on you is the hard part.

Hence, “escorts” will never be unemployed.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[saberuParticipant 7]

Keymaster wrote:

Here’s my comment on that concept (right here) that is not even 3 days old. /forums/topic/my-birth-from-mangina-to-mgtow/page/2/ ROK just embarrassed the f~~~ out of themselves. 

 

So the gyst of your strategy is to just stand there and expect women to come to you with a little eye contact and a hand gesture? Well I can tell you that will not work with a lot of women who will be too shy to come to you. The type of women it will work on will usually be very confident and have high standards so you would need to be in good shape or be in a place where you are showing status e.g. social event or in a club where you buy ‘bottles’.

As an average looking guy whose not overweight but not slim or muscular either I have had to rely on my natural ability to approach women. Through this method I have managed to keep mostly shy attractive women that would not have come to me but also won’t have very high standards for a boyfriend.

After 10 years of life experience and over 20 girlfriends not including just dating/flings I have come to the realisation that showing ‘value’ is a lot more important than being able to approach. And even though I was able to get a lot of girlfriends and date a lot of girls using this method it was tiresome with a less than five percent success rate on approaching.

Yet I know guys with way less game and way more beta than me who will have women sending suggestive messages to them and they still have to ask me if the woman is interested in them. And most of these guys are just in good shape. A lot of women like a guy either toned and muscular or slim. This might be different for all you 30+ males out there but I’m giving you the dating culture for 18-30 year olds it’s mostly affected by vanity.

Anyone know Tinder the dating app? Well for a lot of guys they will only get a minority of women ‘yes’ing them but for a friend of mine he can yes swipe 250 women and have 220 yes him back. He’s been out on a night out and standed back while his friends walked 10+ metres to go speak to some women, the women rejected all his friends then the most attractive one ran over to him and asked him back to her place.

There is a stark contrast in the success men of different ‘value’ have with women. I believe in the US women may have more personality and not be as shallow as British women or Asian women which could be why ‘game’ and ‘charm’ work on them and this whole PUA phenomenon exists. But from my experience living in the UK and other countries I can confidently say for most women and cultures in the world a man being physically in good shape and/or handsome or having an above average salary/ income is much more important than how he acts.

You’d have to f~~~ up pretty bad to fail with a woman that is physically attracted to your looks or status, for most men in this situation it’s an automatic win if they just be themselves and not act strange.

Being confident and approaching women can give you a lot more oppurtunities. The problem is women are very shallow so we get situations like this:

Male VS Female Sexuality

Getting in good shape is probably the easiest way to increase a man’s success with women but this is harder for some people. Like for me my mother’s side of the family are all very overweight so I have inherited at least some genes that make me susceptible to gaining weight. All it means is I have to work harder than some men to get into good shape. But the crux of it is if you can be in good shape or show ‘status’ e.g. success then you are way more likely to be on the right side of that picture. If you are not in good shape or successful and not very confident approaching women you’ll be on the left side of the picture and be lucky to get a date or have women pay any attention to you.

There are also the men who are in the top half of better looking generally who can get away with being a little overweight and those are the ones that like to denounce and criticize posts like mine.

I guess it goes without saying that I am in the process of getting into better shape as I understand all these issues. Getting into shape is mostly about healthy diet but with the right type of exercises it can be done much faster.

I’ll finish by mentioning that even though being in good shape is important wearing nice clothes, having a good hairstyle and looking after your skin can put your value up a few notches without much effort so must be done.

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