WELFARE has no wellness in it.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

Everywhere in the western world, we use this program to help others in need. But it sure seems that when the government does it, bad things happen. Much of this is due to policy. But here, we have a video that outlines this. Sure there have been others, but it points to an uncomfortable truth. Humans are lazy. And if given the option to do so, the result is not hard to calculate.

For a long time, we have seen people do well in isolated areas and when westen, dare I say european style welfare comes in, the results always end up being the same. There is no learning, nor getting better under the current systems. And only the strong willed will see the road out of the programs. However, each program is not made to fix a problem. It is there to promote the problem.

That is where much of this dubious Race related data comes from with regards to how certain areas with high concentrations of a specific ethnic groups and the their concentrations come into account when related in things like quality of life and crime data.

From my perspective, it seems odd that all men don’t want to live the dream of success. But what you find out is that the success that they sell each group as the idea is an idea that is tailored to fit the narrative of that group.

For example, the typical European dream revolves around family being a successful enterprise. However, as many of us know, its a money sink. But overall, it is touted as success. Indeed when done right, and with a chance in hell it works out, there is significant benefits to having a large family, and strong family unit. But overall, this trend is impossible to achieve unless it is controlled and manipulated with outside forces. Basicly, the culture needs to promote these behaviors as being ideal and have real world consequences for failing to do so. Not only on the legal level, but the socal level as well.

Today, a Man having a family looks more like this below. With the wife, and the mother being absent from all of their lives. While the government constantly does everything in their power to strip every morsel of positive benefits of family and fatherhood.

So when we look into nations that are successful, one of the main things that stick out is nations that are overall have the same culture, seem to be doing the best in these cases. But with what has been happening, it seems that people that are coming in are doing so on the merits of making a better life and becoming apart of that strong nation or culture, but to prey and leech from the hard work and sizable abundance that these people want to pilfer all for themselves.

Like it or not, governments benefit from a mass of people who are dependent on them. It provides an easy tool to make such quick legislation that would normally alarm Informed jow public, but go right past populations that are indeed less capable of reason, thought, self ownership or Self determination and or responsibility.

Japan for instance has a very low rate of homelessness per capita. And Crime by the poor. But this only works since the culture does not promote victimhood. This has a horrible side effect on men killing themselves, but it’s just trading one devil in the details for another.

There is rather small amount of people who understand that there is indeed some benefits to trying to keep a nation together. And those voices are rather small in comparison with the majority voices. But there is growing turmoil growing from it. The problem is, it’s not going to solve any of the big issues of things like fertility, or general happiness of the population. But it does solve the crime problem. And many of the ills that come with accepting others and supporting those that choose not to support themselves.

Red Ice did a great job on talking about this issue, (with a hint of carrying their own torch about something thrown in) that does talk about this.

So when it all boils down, if people actually talked about the truth about things like race, culture, values, we would all be better off. Since the true pride is of that of being on a team.

Yet, we are all blind to see that when we all fight against each other, we will never gain more wonderful things. And if we continue to feel sorry for others, its only going to make it worse. Its kryptonite for proud men to be looked at as needing help. Basically, we are using female values to blanket everybody.

Now this is a LONG video, but I would like to take you to 43 minutes in that goes over this question of what would a person do if they went into a Ethno state that refused service to individuals of different classes or creeds, nationality etc. Service. It also could go as far as only providing service based on religion, sex etc. The big OMG moment they both missed is that we have that right now with WOMEN ONLY SERVICES AND POLICY!

On a side note, MOST HAPPY MORAL people don’t like treating others badly or unfairly. But women often do this and no one blinks an eye. And so does the government legislation in mass. Of all the programs, I can not even point to a single program that seems to focus on Men’s issues that really affect them. just another stupid phone number, and no real meat and potatoes behind them. Just like all the other phoney Child abuse hotlines etc. that have nothing there for children.

Overall, what does this have to do with the topic of welfare? Well, welfare does the same thing. It Targets and only serves a small group of people. Does it actually have some merit? Sure it does. But overtime, these things can all turn bad when clustered and taken advantage of. And places that don’t see that choice and freedom to do things and fail is the important part of being able to progress.

Welfare DOES give CERTAIN people a choice, while leaving out the rest. Fathers namely. And Children. As always, the children are the ones that suffer the most from these programs since they are the long term victims of welfare.

In all of it. Welfare is not needed. Its strong families. Strong Men, and a strong national identity that ensures the people of that nation will continue to move forward. Not backwards. We have been doing the same thing long enough.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

My problem with our welfare system is it doesn’t discriminate between bad choices and bad luck. For example, I’ve got a buddy who was diagnosed with a degenerative nerve disease in his mid 30s. He worked until his mid 40s, ended up hurting himself on the job because he was pushing himself too hard for his deteriorating body, and finally went out on disability. After working since he was 16 and pushing himself probably several years beyond what most people in his condition would have he reluctantly threw the towel in. Its people like that I don’t mind seeing get help.

On the other hand, I’ve got a relative with reduced heart function due to recreational drug use, 110% her own poor choices, not just random s~~~ luck like ending up with some bulls~~~ nerve disease that can randomly hit anyone at any time. Same story though…she got put on disability. She never had a physically demanding job…I’m honestly not sure why she can’t work an office job or as a cashier or whole bother of other potential positions that don’t require any education and that aren’t physically demanding to the extent her heart function may be an issue other than laziness and a broken welfare system willing to pay her for doing nothing. She’s held part time jobs while on disability, and they’ll scale her disability back while she’s working, which makes working not worth it because after the loss of disability pay it pretty much amounts to going to work for a few dollars an hour…but when she ends up quitting or getting fired they just set her disability back to max…they don’t even say hey wtf…you held that job for xxx amount of time, you are obviously capable of working. Its people like that who make me sick to the stomach and are the reason I’d love to see massive cuts and reform to our welfare system.

I’m all for helping people who are hard working, law abiding people who by circumstances not of their own doing get f~~~ed over with illness or accident, but for people who cause their own problems, they should be told to f~~~ off and find their own solutions.

[Anonymous 1]

I’ve seen a lot of talk about race and IQ lately. Stefan Molyneux makes a big fuss about this too.

TFM expertly debunked those IQ theories. Welfare is indeed the root cause of the problem. Certain types of welfare being more destructive than others. “The Great Society” is the perfect example of Socialism accomplishing its objectives. The objectives being the dissolution of the family unit so that the individual can be amalgamated into one “Greater Society.”

Look at the Black community. Did Socialism make their lives better or worse? We can objectively state that Socialism makes lives worse. Yet, here we are having the Socialists force us down this road.

Their Utopia is really a Nightmare.

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